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Is there any truth to the belief that the experimental jabs reduces symptoms?


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2021 Dec 16, 7:31am   1,790 views  52 comments

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We can be certain about 1) the jab does not keep you from getting the China virus and 2) the jab does not keep you from spreading the China virus.

So, the only reason to take the jab could possibly be to keep from dying from a virus that you already have a 99% chance of surviving. Amitight?

Can it be proven that the jab reduces symptoms and/or death?

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1   NuttBoxer   2021 Dec 16, 8:12am  

It does not. Fauci said as much on a podcast(?) recently with the NY Post I believe. But if you don't want to take his word, and you shouldn't, look at the number of cases and deaths in the genetically modified humans. And remember that side-affects of the shot count towards percentage of reduction in chances of death. But again, I believe the FDA already did this research, and found you're more likely to die with the shot than without it.
2   Misc   2021 Dec 16, 10:44am  

Yes, there is proof the vaxx helps.

Singapore restricted access from the outside world until their population was pretty much fully vaxxed. They then opened the country knowing that there would be some cases of Covid, but that it would not overwhelm their medical system because of the vaxx.

The number of deaths per million in Singapore is 136. It is about an order of magnitude lower than other developed countries.


https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?source=patrick.net#countries
3   Ceffer   2021 Dec 16, 10:51am  

Yes, the vaxes definitely reduce symptoms. Fake PCR tests indicate that the vaxxes reduce deaths from a quarter of a percent to an eighth of a percent, and people who are completely asymptomatic are the most dangerous, especially the unvaxxed.

This is significant, is pure science, and means that everybody should be getting the jab from birth onward.

Do I get my 500K a year gig at CNN now?
4   porkchopXpress   2021 Dec 16, 11:22am  

Misc says
The number of deaths per million in Singapore is 136. It is about an order of magnitude lower than other developed countries.
But there are countries with hardly any deaths and hardly any vaccinated. Correlation definitely doesn't equal causation.
5   HeadSet   2021 Dec 16, 12:57pm  

Misc says
The number of deaths per million in Singapore is 136. It is about an order of magnitude lower than other developed countries.

Does Singapore count death with Covid positive test as deaths from Covid? How does Singapore compare to Italy, after Italy corrected it death count from Covid to only 2% of the previous reported number?
6   richwicks   2021 Dec 16, 2:19pm  

HeadSet says
Misc says
The number of deaths per million in Singapore is 136. It is about an order of magnitude lower than other developed countries.

Does Singapore count death with Covid positive test as deaths from Covid? How does Singapore compare to Italy, after Italy corrected it death count from Covid to only 2% of the previous reported number?


Just look at overall death rates, and ignore everything else.

Clean data isn't collected, so that's all you can do. What constitutes a "death from covid" is just political.
7   NuttBoxer   2021 Dec 16, 11:06pm  

Misc says
Yes, there is proof the vaxx helps.

Singapore


Yeah, I'm gonna stop you right there. Singapore has been getting mocked for the past month for flattening the curve... Along the wrong axis!


8   WookieMan   2021 Dec 16, 11:15pm  

Anecdotal, but I do think it reduced LENGTH of symptoms. I don't think it reduces severity. Wife had the exact same symptoms, SIL and BIL as well, but theirs only last 3-4 days. I'm clearing up after 2 weeks. Still only at 20% smell/taste. Our symptoms were no more heavy or light regardless of vaccination. Just length of sickness. And none of our symptoms were that extreme. Having the worst of it, I still wouldn't get vaccinated believing that it will reduce the length of your sickness. It's not a big deal.
9   NuttBoxer   2021 Dec 16, 11:24pm  

Misc says
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?source=patrick.net#countries


"Edouard Mathieu, the data manager for Our World in Data (OWID), an independent statistics website headquartered at Oxford University, has seen a similar trend.

“Their main focus seems to be having the latest number wherever it comes from, whether it’s reliable or not, whether it’s well-sourced or not,” he said. “We think people should be wary, especially media, policy-makers and decision-makers. This data is not as accurate as they think it is.”"

https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2020/05/world/worldometer-coronavirus-mystery/index.html?source=patrick.net
10   Misc   2021 Dec 16, 11:47pm  

You can use Johns Hopkins. They have the exact same dataset. It is what the governments report.

Also, the increase in Covid cases/deaths for Singapore is because they opened their country up to outsiders. Nothing more. Their death rate from Covid is an order of magnitude less than other major economies.
11   tanked   2021 Dec 16, 11:59pm  

From what I recall they only tested mild symptoms for a reduction. Mild wouldn't even have anything to worry about.
12   Misc   2021 Dec 17, 12:25am  

tanked says
From what I recall they only tested mild symptoms for a reduction. Mild wouldn't even have anything to worry about.


No, they computed the number of cases that led to hospitalization and those leading to death. Both were much lower under the vaxx.
13   charlie303   2021 Dec 17, 2:57am  

The jab is making people sick.
India saw the Delta wave AFTER a mass vaccination drive.
The more jabs you get the sicker you will become and a great number will die.
There are placebos, weak batches, so it is hard to track.
There are unvaxxed people who will get ill but they may have weakened immune systems or comorbidities.
Vitamin D, C and Zinc.
Ivermectin.
The media, big pharma, Govn have all been infiltrated and corrupted.
Many have been conned or coerced and have bought into and support and defend the narrative.
Their narrative is slowly failing.
Expect big shocks soon.
We are at WAR.
DO NOT GET THE JAB.

.
14   Patrick   2021 Dec 17, 4:20am  

Misc says
Singapore restricted access from the outside world until their population was pretty much fully vaxxed. They then opened the country knowing that there would be some cases of Covid, but that it would not overwhelm their medical system because of the vaxx.


Singapore had a huge spike in cases and deaths because they irresponsibly jabbed so much of their population.

Before the jab, things were fine there.


15   NuttBoxer   2021 Dec 17, 10:55am  

WookieMan says
Anecdotal, but I do think it reduced LENGTH of symptoms.


My sister, who took the J&J was sick for the same amount of time I was, 10 days.

Your smell will return faster if you take zinc.
16   NuttBoxer   2021 Dec 17, 11:24am  

Misc says
You can use Johns Hopkins. They have the exact same dataset. It is what the governments report.


Thanks for confirming you didn't read the article, there's a reason the dataset is the same...

Misc says
Also, the increase in Covid cases/deaths for Singapore is because they opened their country up to outsiders. Nothing more. Their death rate from Covid is an order of magnitude less than other major economies.


I can't find a single recorded instance of Singapore blocking entry to the country, not one. During the entire year, they have continued to allow visitors, there was no significant increase in this traffic prior to or during the months they've become a cautionary tale. Most of their restrictions have focused on activities within the country, not to it.

The only thing significantly statistically different in Singapore is the high rate of gene therapy shots, and the high increase in deaths. This correlation is confirmed across numerous other countries, states, cities, locales that also have a high number of gene therapy shots being administered.

My neighbor upstairs had a reaction to her 3rd covid shot, and now needs a walker to get around. Your lies, or decision to believe lies has real consequences. You are morally responsible before God for every person you've encouraged to inject this poison. Their fate will be partially your fault(they are still mainly responsible).

May God have mercy on you.
17   tanked   2021 Dec 17, 12:25pm  

Misc says
tanked says
From what I recall they only tested mild symptoms for a reduction. Mild wouldn't even have anything to worry about.


No, they computed the number of cases that led to hospitalization and those leading to death. Both were much lower under the vaxx.


No, they only tested for mild. Not severe. It has no effect on severe. They still die.
18   tanked   2021 Dec 17, 12:27pm  

Misc says
tanked says
From what I recall they only tested mild symptoms for a reduction. Mild wouldn't even have anything to worry about.


No, they computed the number of cases that led to hospitalization and those leading to death. Both were much lower under the vaxx.


You really should get out of here you are just making up garbage
19   tanked   2021 Dec 17, 12:29pm  

Misc says
Yes, there is proof the vaxx helps.

Singapore restricted access from the outside world until their population was pretty much fully vaxxed. They then opened the country knowing that there would be some cases of Covid, but that it would not overwhelm their medical system because of the vaxx.

The number of deaths per million in Singapore is 136. It is about an order of magnitude lower than other developed countries.


https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?source=patrick.net#countries


Helps kill you. All the animals died in testing once exposed to the wild.
20   Misc   2021 Dec 18, 6:36am  

My the anti-vaxx propaganda is thick.

We have even had people fall for the fake VAERS reports and then trolls extrapolating even that.

The VAERS system is open for everyone not just doctors or health providers. Anyone can make a posting on it. What has happened is that anti-vaxx propagandaists put in many fake death and debilitating posts.

Those peddling the anti-vaxx stance then went so far as to say that only 1% of incidents were reported.

Don't believe propaganda. Anti-vaxx is just as bad as pro-vaxx.
21   NuttBoxer   2021 Dec 18, 1:45pm  

Misc says
Those peddling the anti-vaxx stance then went so far as to say that only 1% of incidents were reported.


Traditionally VAERS only receives reports about 11% of all cases. Out of those far less actually make it into the system. The reporting is open, but the admission of reports is not. It's already been widely shown that covid symptoms have been intentionally suppressed, and the number of reports making it in for covid is FAR less than normal. Hence the 1%. But this is all very well known at this point to anyone who done the research.
22   Misc   2021 Dec 18, 1:58pm  

personal
23   Misc   2021 Dec 18, 2:16pm  

NuttBoxer says
Misc says
Those peddling the anti-vaxx stance then went so far as to say that only 1% of incidents were reported.


Traditionally VAERS only receives reports about 11% of all cases. Out of those far less actually make it into the system. The reporting is open, but the admission of reports is not. It's already been widely shown that covid symptoms have been intentionally suppressed, and the number of reports making it in for covid is FAR less than normal. Hence the 1%. But this is all very well known at this point to anyone who done the research.


So you don't believe the stats that are reported by the government of Singapore, but you do believe stats that are a multiple of those reported on VAERS (reports that anyone can make)?
24   richwicks   2021 Dec 18, 3:37pm  

Misc says
Over 4 billion people have been vaccinated. Let's figure 1 to 3 billion of them have been exposed to Covid in the "wild". This is going on for about 2 years. There is no mass die off. Reality-land makes this statement sound like the ravings of a hysterical woman.


I don't believe the vaccinations are a device to create a cull in the population, but I also don't think they are effective at all.

This is merely a test of obedience. I'm 50, I have almost no risk of death from the virus itself, and if the vaccines are effective, why is there a demand for me to be vaccinated, if the only risk from being unvaccinated, is a risk to myself?
25   WookieMan   2021 Dec 18, 3:55pm  

richwicks says
This is merely a test of obedience. I'm 50, I have almost no risk of death from the virus itself, and if the vaccines are effective, why is there a demand for me to be vaccinated, if the only risk from being unvaccinated, is a risk to myself?

This is what I don’t get. Also the risk is so low for 90% of the population. I’m not anti vax. Go get it. I don’t give a shit. My wife did. They’re pushing it on kids and vaccine passports are obscene and frankly criminal.

Is it that complicated that people would be hesitant to take a vaccine rushed to market in record time? I think it’s intelligent to question motives and the speed with which this was not actually approved. When our hospitals get overwhelmed when 60% plus of the population is vaccinated versus this same time las year, you ask questions. I’m glad I didn’t get vaccinated. Covid was a pain, but not a big deal.
26   NuttBoxer   2021 Dec 18, 4:58pm  

Misc says
Over 4 billion people have been vaccinated. Let's figure 1 to 3 billion of them have been exposed to Covid in the "wild". This is going on for about 2 years. There is no mass die off.


No one here is worried about covid. No one is saying covid is killing people. If you keep projecting, rather than attempting to understand, you end up debating yourself. And that's exactly what you've done here.

Why don't you just login man? Stop trolling and post under your username like you used to.
27   NuttBoxer   2021 Dec 18, 5:21pm  

Misc says
So you don't believe the stats that are reported by the government of Singapore


The charts we posted use data from Singapore via OWD, if you read the article I posted, you'll know who they are. Your only source is a site discredited by your own side.

Misc says
VAERS (reports that anyone can make)?


Tell me, what is the financial incentive for anyone to do what you're claiming? What power will they gain? Because we all see the huge financial, and power shifts that the scamdemic has brought about. And your narrative has never come up once as a source of either. In fact, I don't remember reading a single article that supports your claim, similar to your excuse about why people in Singapore are dying in lock step with increased covid shots.

VAERS have been around for a long time, and I don't ever remember hearing this about the system. Probably because as I stated, and you ran away from addressing, there is such a small percentage of reports that are accepted into the system. Not made, but reviewed, and officially cataloged. But even counting reports made, no one, NO ONE has ever said the number of reports exceeds the number of SAE's. You're outright lying here.

Why do you keep doubling down when it's so obvious your wrong? You've been fooled, or worse, you're intentionally spouting dangerous, irresponsible, opinions, telling people to risk their lives in an experiment when they have zero reason to.

My family hasn't take any shots, all got covid and recovered just fine. No hospital, not even a bad sickness, more of an annoyance. Everyone I know who has gotten it, has fared the same. And they are all in far worse physical condition than my family. But I do personally know people who have been injured, or lost family after getting a covid shot.
28   Misc   2021 Dec 18, 5:46pm  

Here is the link that anyone can use to make a report on the VAERS system.

https://vaers.hhs.gov/reportevent.html?source=patrick.net

Anyone.

You can do it yourself.

There has been a huge disinformation campaign against the Covid Vax. Anti-vaxx propaganda spreaders have inundated the VAERS system with fraudulent cases. This is worse than mail in votes without a signature required.

There have been millions and millions and millions that have been hospitalized for Covid. These millions have not faked it,
29   Misc   2021 Dec 18, 5:57pm  

Here's the link to Johns Hopkins website. They also track the deaths from the virus. They have the deaths in Singapore at 168 now. The deaths per million are an order of magnitude less than those of other developed economies.

Again these are numbers provided by the host governments,

If you know of better stats than those given by the world-wide governments please share. (Giggles to self)

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
30   NuttBoxer   2021 Dec 18, 11:21pm  

Misc says
Here is the link that anyone can use to make a report on the VAERS system.

https://vaers.hhs.gov/reportevent.html?source=patrick.net

Anyone.

You can do it yourself.


You don't have motive, or support for this baseless theory, from any side. Fauci, Pfizer, Moderna, none of them have ever claimed what you're saying. Wouldn't it be headlines if it were true? With all the anti-freedom propoganda surrounding covid, your story would be front page for a month.. if it were real...

Misc says
There have been millions and millions and millions that have been hospitalized for Covid. These millions have not faked it,


There have been millions hospitalized after taking shots, they haven't faked it. See how that works..?

My family, no hospital. My wife's unhealthy friends, no hospital. My sister's family, no hospital, and she's fucking fat, and her husband has epilepsy. My Mom church, many families infected before shots released, no hospital.

How many people do you know personally who have gone to hospital for covid?

My neighbor shortly after getting booster, hospital, and now can't walk right. My friend's grampa who was double jabbed, hospital and died. The only casualties I know are from genetically modified humans.

C'mon username, prove what we already know about you.
31   Misc   2021 Dec 18, 11:29pm  

Oh, here's the bit about Singapore starting to remove the travel restrictions. It took 30 seconds of searching.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/singapore-says-almost-80-population-be-fully-vaccinated-by-sept-2021-07-26/?source=patrick.net

Continue denying reality.
32   Misc   2021 Dec 18, 11:42pm  

When I said that Singapore was a shining example of the vaxx working, you quoted some stats from some Clown World website. They are selling the vaxx is dangerous line. Otherwise, they would have included the total number of deaths, not just the daily amounts. This would have destroyed their narrative, however. Am I right?

Last year I was joking that instead of every death being attributed to Covid (like the mainstream media was doing), it was going to be attributed to the vaxx.

I seem to have been right.

If you don't believe statistics directly from national governments, you aren't going to believe any source of information.

I showed you how easy it is to make a false VAERS report. What you don't trust your own lying eyes?
33   NuttBoxer   2021 Dec 19, 3:31pm  

Misc says
Oh, here's the bit about Singapore starting to remove the travel restrictions. It took 30 seconds of searching.


You said no one was allowed in, and when they were, it caused covid and deaths. That was never true, and your link proves it. Quarantine doesn't mean no entry. Your argument is baseless, and dangerous, and you are responsible for the consequences.
34   Robert Sproul   2021 Dec 19, 4:25pm  

Misc says
The VAERS system is open for everyone not just doctors or health providers. Anyone can make a posting on it. What has happened is that anti-vaxx propagandaists put in many fake death and debilitating posts.

NOBODY is making false VAERS reports. It takes at least 30 minutes on a cumbersome website that resets at the slightest jiggle, starting you over. All reports ARE verified and fraudulent reports are punishable by law. Many studies have shown that AE’s are underreported by huge factors. The VAERS was considered to be a faulty but valuable reporting system for 30 years until the Vaccine Cult decided it was problematic to have over 20,000 deaths adjacent to vaccination exposed.
35   Shaman   2021 Dec 19, 4:42pm  

Misc says
Continue denying reality.


My sisters friend (and sorta mine) is vax injured from the J&J. She’s disabled with blurry vision, disorientation, shortness of breath, and heart palpitations.
Is she also faking it?
Fuck off, slaver.
36   Bd6r   2021 Dec 19, 5:26pm  

I got covid only after I got vaxxed. Before that, I was in contact with people sick with covid and did not get it. This included a 3 or 4 hr ride in car with a person coughing covid on me.
37   Onvacation   2021 Dec 19, 8:11pm  

Misc says
There has been a huge disinformation campaign against the Covid Vax

Do you think it is safe and effective? even though tens of thousands have died, hundreds of thousands have had serious side effects, and it doesn't give protection from or stop the transmission of the disease?
38   Onvacation   2021 Dec 19, 8:12pm  

Stop the masquerade!
39   Patrick   2021 Dec 19, 8:26pm  

Bd6r says
I got covid only after I got vaxxed. Before that, I was in contact with people sick with covid and did not get it. This included a 3 or 4 hr ride in car with a person coughing covid on me.


I also know someone who works in a hospital and the vaxxed people are catching it now in big numbers.

The vaxx is not effective and absolutely not safe.

It's a crime against humanity.
40   Onvacation   2021 Dec 19, 8:28pm  

NuttBoxer says

How many people do you know personally who have gone to hospital for covid?

For me, two. Both were put on the ventilator. One survived, one died. Both took two doses of the experimental biologic agent.

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