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HIV care involves a type of medication called antiretroviral therapy (ART) and regular visits with your doctor. One study estimated that costs of this care could run anywhere between $1,800 to $4,500 each month during a person’s lifetime.

-- WebMD

Is there a surcharge for fudgepackers?

FuckCCP89 says

Delta Air Lines will charge employees on the company health plan $200 a month if they fail to get vaccinated against COVID-19, a policy the airline's top executive says is necessary because the average hospital stay for the virus costs the airline $40,000.

How does it cost the airline money? You factor the insurance cost into pay as a benefit. Employee pays the deductible. You can't be a land whale and pass a medical for a pilot or even fit in the cockpit. Same for flight attendants. That's who goes to the hospital for Covid. Not saying it's not happening, but this is pure bullshit if it is.

WookieMan says

How does it cost the airline money?

No idea. But it's fucking NPR so take it with a pound of salt.

Delta Air Lines CEO announces the firm will FINE employees $200-a-month if they DO NOT LOSE WEIGHT

Obesity-related conditionsexternal icon include heart disease, stroke, type 2 diabetes and certain types of cancer. These are among the leading causes of preventable, premature death. https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html

Being obese, whether class I or II, will typically reduce your life-span by 3.7 years. Obesity with cardiovascular diseases, will typically die 10 to 13 years earlier than healthyweight pars.

Between the years 1986 and 2006, 5% of deaths among black adult men and 15% of deaths among white adult men in the U.S. were associated with overweight/obesity. In addition, 26.8% of deaths among black women and 21.7% of deaths among white women in the U.S. were associated with overweight and obesity. An aggregation of these figures revealed that overweight and obesity were responsible for 18.2% of deaths among U.S. adults (both blacks and whites and both genders) over the two decades (1986-2006) (Masters et al., 2013).
https://renewbariatrics.com/obesity/mortality-rate/

Childhood obesity is growing faster than adult obesity — and the US rate is one of the worst
While obesity is still rarer among children compared to adults, the rate of childhood obesity has surged much faster in many countries.

Of the 20 largest countries in the world, the US had the worst rate of childhood obesity, with 13 percent of children now obese. Egypt had the highest adult obesity prevalence, where 35 percent of adults are now obese.
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/6/19/15819808/obesity-global-epidemic

HunterTits says

WookieMan says

How does it cost the airline money?

Probably cost them in lost labor while the employee is stuck at home or in the hospital.

Makes sense, but I don't think any FA is making much more than $60-70k/yr even experienced. Likely closer to $40k. A geezer pilot maybe $180k with younger ones at $80k or so. So hard to quantify the $40k number. Biden going green and shutting down pipelines costs them substantially more for fuel depending on futures contracts. So it's hard to believe one employee is worth $40k to quarantine or miss work for 2 weeks.

Covid has been here a while now. There's been time to prepare for these things. Seems like bad management to me.

HunterTits says

Looks like the EUA law is being openly violated by the airlines.

Where are the lawyers when we need them?

Right, first order of business should be to NOT RESIGN and to make them fire you so that:

1. You get unemployment, and their unemployment insurance cost goes up.
2. You can sue them later.

This is wrong in so many ways and a monster of a slippery slope.

I'll make a point of never flying Delta again.

I think of all the insurance costs from obese, illegals, addicts, and elderly kept alive years past what nature intended.

RC2006 says

I think of all the insurance costs from obese, illegals, addicts, and elderly kept alive years past what nature intended.

It's all fucking bullshit anyway wrt employer-provided group insurance: the whole point of fucking group insurance is that the group is insured as a fucking whole, warts and all.