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Wow, the left has promoted pedophilia for a long time


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2021 Aug 1, 10:27am   4,404 views  98 comments

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https://spectatorworld.com/topic/child-abuse-avant-garde-pedophilia-children-nambla/


When child abuse was avant-garde
The prominence of pedophilia in Sixties and Seventies thought

Last month the New Yorker published an essay about a grotesque experiment that took place in West Germany in the 1970s, in which young boys who had been taken from, or abandoned by, their parents were placed with known pedophiles.

It was no accident. It was quite deliberate. The powerful sexologist Helmet Kentler believed that pedophilic guardianship would foster an open and unashamed attitude towards sex that would preclude the development of fascistic attitudes. As the New Yorker says:

’Kentler’s goal was to develop a child-rearing philosophy for a new kind of German man. Sexual liberation, he wrote, was the best way to “prevent another Auschwitz.”’

A sensible reader could guess what happened to the boys. Those that the New Yorker spoke to report feeling depression and rage deep into adulthood.

Kentler was appalling, but he was of his time. Taboos surrounding children were being eroded. The German Green party was especially notable for its enablement of child abuse. As the Times of London reported in 2015, ‘a paedophile network was active in the Berlin branch of the Green party until the mid-1990s, with potentially hundreds of victims’.

Daniel Cohn-Bendit, a leading student activist in the 1968 unrest and a prominent member of the Greens, wrote fantasies about sexual contact with children which he later awkwardly described as ‘irresponsible’ and ‘a type of manifesto against the bourgeois society’. Cohn-Bendit was not, as you might assume, a hair-brained student when he wrote that filth but 30 years old. Perhaps the bourgeois society had something — at least something — to be said for it.

You could attempt to ascribe all of this to post-war German pathologies — except that enthusiasm for the potential of childhood sexuality was common throughout the counter-cultural movements of the Sixties and Seventies. It may not have been a cause to rival the campaign against the war in Vietnam but it was a major one, with powerful friends.

Some cultural figures were very much self-interested. The French author Gabriel Matzneff wrote about raping children for years before it turned out that he was, of all things, a child rapist. It took the publication of Vanessa Springora’s memoir Consent, in 2020, in which she related being abused by Matzneff, for him to face repercussions. Being able to turn a sentence, it appears, is a good way of dodging a sentence. Your crimes are attributed to artistic license.

Others were driven by ideology. French intellectuals were especially energetic in their efforts to normalize pedophilia. A who’s-who of Gallic literary figures signed a petition in 1977 that called for sex between adults and children to be decriminalized, including Michel Foucault, Jacques Derrida, Jean-Paul Sartre and Simone de Beauvoir.

Foucault, who was posthumously charged with raping Tunisian boys by his fellow writer Guy Sorman last year (charges, in fairness, that are unproven and that Foucault is unable to respond to), helpfully clarified that when he said children he meant children. In a radio conversation in 1978 he dismissed the very concept of being underage:

‘An age barrier laid down by law does not have much sense. Again, the child may be trusted to say whether or not he was subjected to violence.’

Any child who is able to express themselves, he was explicitly suggesting, is able to ‘consent’ — as if an eight-year-old and an 18-year-old have the same psychological capacity. The generous explanation of such a belief is arrant foolishness. The alternative is criminal opportunism.

But amid enthusiasm for women’s liberation, gay liberation and the sexual revolution, it was tempting for progressives to assume that kids had been constrained by the repressive systems they believed had been confining them. Allen Ginsberg, author of the poem ‘Howl’, joined NAMBLA, the North American Man/Boy Love Association. Reportedly, Ginsberg said, ‘I’m a member of NAMBLA because I love boys too — everybody does, who has a little humanity.’ This seems a bit like saying that you are a national socialist because you like your nation and you’re very sociable.

In correspondence with Ginsberg, William Burroughs, author of The Naked Lunch, reported paying two Arabic boys to have sex with one another. Burroughs’s biographer Barry Miles claimed that Burroughs used this anecdote in The Naked Lunch ‘to purposely annoy his readers, a Swiftian gesture to reveal their prurience and to undermine their middle-class values’. It would seem more ‘Swiftian’ if Swift had actually eaten Irish kids.

Of course, all of these efforts failed. Pedophilia, thankfully, was a bridge too far for the general public — who had grown increasingly receptive to individual choice but who were not convinced by the idea that this principle could be extended to kids, or that strange, sweaty men talking about ‘man/boy love’ had any interest in the kids’ wellbeing.

Still, this dark phenomenon endures in relevance. We often hear about being on the ‘right side of history’, as if there is a natural drift of civilized societies towards a more enlightened state of being, associated, typically, with the discarding of taboos and the acceptance of new and innovative social standards. Sometimes a taboo should be discarded. But sometimes they have a damn good reason to exist and people should not feel narrow-minded or parochial for opposing change. You see, for example, the same exaggeration of childhood agency as a means of enabling exploitation in cases of so-called ‘drag kids’.

Sometimes, too, as this case reminds us, change is not inevitable and can be reversed. Foucault is still respected on the strength of other aspects of his work, but if he was demanding the end of age of consent laws nowadays he would lose his intellectual respectability before you could say ‘structuralism’.

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1   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2021 Aug 1, 10:48am  

Damn! That's really fucked up.
2   HeadSet   2021 Aug 1, 12:51pm  

Patrick says
’Kentler’s goal was to develop a child-rearing philosophy for a new kind of German man.

Wonder if anyone noticed that ironic phrase "child rearing" in an article about pedos.
3   stereotomy   2021 Aug 1, 1:25pm  

Patrick says
It was no accident. It was quite deliberate. The powerful sexologist Helmet Kentler believed that pedophilic guardianship would foster an open and unashamed attitude towards sex that would preclude the development of fascistic attitudes.


Watch what they say, not what they do. For all we know Kentler was a real-life "Boys from Brazil" Mengele-type character that was trying to reproduce Hitler by repeating the trauma of child sexual abuse. Those Nazis were pretty fucked up with the leather, etc., not to mention the brown shirts were led by a fag.
4   Patrick   2021 Aug 1, 1:32pm  

HeadSet says
Wonder if anyone noticed that ironic phrase "child rearing" in an article about pedos.



Oh damn, lol.
5   NuttBoxer   2021 Aug 1, 7:43pm  

Just a reminder, that the Franklin Coverup scandal revealed deep networks across politics, law enforcement(local and federal), and CPS that went back to the 50's. But the particular party most directly involved were the Republicans.

When it comes to pedophilia, they're all to blame.
6   Karloff   2021 Aug 1, 9:24pm  

They defend and cover for these sickos for as long as they can, until the lid is blown completely off.

Kevin Spacey
Jimmy Savile
James Gunn
Bryan Singer

https://federalobserver.com/2020/03/06/brad-pitt-reveals-elite-hollywood-pedophiles-control-america/
7   Patrick   2021 Aug 1, 10:51pm  

Maybe everyone with a sodomy flag out front should get a NAMBLA flyer in the same colors, thanking them for supporting pedophilia, and explaining that the majority of gays were created through pedophilia, by gay men molesting boys.
8   Patrick   2021 Aug 1, 11:16pm  

https://thefederalist.com/2021/07/30/the-left-has-a-pedophilia-problem-and-its-out-in-the-open/

The Left Has A Pedophilia Problem, And It’s Out In The Open
The left is continuing its tradition of destroying society's sexual morality, now campaigning on multiple fronts for the normalization of pedophilia.
9   Patrick   2021 Nov 12, 8:38pm  

https://thepostmillennial.com/non-binary-professor-advocates-to-destigmatize-pedophiles-in-new-book


Nov 12, 2021 8:35 AM EST
Non-binary professor advocates to destigmatize pedophiles in new book
In an interview with Prostasia's Noah Berlatsky, Old Dominion professor Allyn Walker justified feelings of pedophilia and the people who have them.


Pedophilia is perhaps the most evil possible crime.
10   HeadSet   2021 Nov 12, 9:20pm  

Patrick says
Nov 12, 2021 8:35 AM EST
Non-binary professor advocates to destigmatize pedophiles in new book
In an interview with Prostasia's Noah Berlatsky, Old Dominion professor Allyn Walker justified feelings of pedophilia and the people who have them.


For Walker, "there is no morality or immorality attached to attraction to anyone because no one can control who they’re attracted to at all. In other words, it’s not who we’re attracted to that’s either okay or not, okay. It’s our behaviors and responding to that attraction that are either okay or not okay." Walker, who did clearly state that "child sexual abuse is never ever okay.

I do not think there is anything to disagree with here. Her point is very clear that no one should ever act on pedophilic feelings, even though is not their fault such feelings exist.
11   richwicks   2021 Nov 12, 9:26pm  

NuttBoxer says
Just a reminder, that the Franklin Coverup scandal revealed deep networks across politics, law enforcement(local and federal), and CPS that went back to the 50's. But the particular party most directly involved were the Republicans.

When it comes to pedophilia, they're all to blame.


Perhaps so, but there's some hope that the republican electorate would call that out and eliminate it.

Is there any hope with the democratic electorate?

I never imagined 20 years ago, I would be looking at the REPUBLICAN party for reform, but they are the first to try it. The left votes blue no matter who, even a Neocon warmonger pedophile that is openly accepting bribes through his son's "art". I sure as fuck didn't see that happening when I was 30.
12   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2021 Nov 12, 10:00pm  

HeadSet says
Patrick says
Nov 12, 2021 8:35 AM EST
Non-binary professor advocates to destigmatize pedophiles in new book
In an interview with Prostasia's Noah Berlatsky, Old Dominion professor Allyn Walker justified feelings of pedophilia and the people who have them.


For Walker, "there is no morality or immorality attached to attraction to anyone because no one can control who they’re attracted to at all. In other words, it’s not who we’re attracted to that’s either okay or not, okay. It’s our behaviors and responding to that attraction that are either okay or not okay." Walker, who did clearly state that "child sexual abuse is never ever okay.

I do not think there is anything to disagree with here. Her point is very clear that no one should ever act on pedophilic feelings, even though is not their fault such feelings exist.


Except that it’s an untrue statement that we can’t control who we are attracted to. We absolutely can. We are not animals…we are capable of rational thought. And we certainly can steer our interests, attractions, etc in whatever direction we see fit.
13   richwicks   2021 Nov 12, 11:04pm  

Karloff says
They defend and cover for these sickos for as long as they can, until the lid is blown completely off.

Kevin Spacey
Jimmy Savile
James Gunn
Bryan Singer


James Gunn has been rehired by Dizzy.

Don't just boycott his film, boycott all Dizzy films, and if you really want to see them, pirate them.
14   AmericanKulak   2021 Nov 13, 5:12am  

There was a 60 minutes episode about the Franklin Coverup, but I think it was yanked at the last minute due to pressure from all kinds of Elite Sources.

I believe that eliminating both homosexual and pedophiliac tendencies is done to stop the ability of detractors from making the connection of:
"Of course so-and-so is an evil elitist, he's gay/pedo."

But yes, I've been saying this for a while, the Left in the 60s/70s pushed decriminalizing pedophilia and they started the push again around 2014-2016. It magically came to a halt around the time you-know-who came down the escalator.
15   WookieMan   2021 Nov 13, 6:32am  

richwicks says
pirate them.

I know you're smarter than I am in this realm of tech for pirating, but I'd tread lightly if you're a non-tech person. We'd offer free internet as a rental incentive (was priced in) and we had a few run ins with the law regarding pirated music and movies by the tenants. So they do go after people. Most of it generally is attorney's phishing for a quick payout/settlement. Most times the content producer say Disney or whoever don't even see a dime. One content provider did hire a legit firm though.
17   Ceffer   2021 Nov 14, 11:02pm  

LOL!
18   NuttBoxer   2021 Nov 15, 9:56am  

richwicks says
Perhaps so, but there's some hope that the republican electorate would call that out and eliminate it.


Based on what? When faced with it in the 80's, they covered up, and sicked the FBI on anyone who didn't go along. They murdered a key witness, bullied one of the victims into recanting, and when the other victim refused, threw her in jail for contempt.

If the scamdemic has showed us anything it's that we need to be realistic about people actions. In this case, if you can't do that, you'll be apologizing for and supporting pedophilia, just so you can justify being a Republican?
19   NuttBoxer   2021 Nov 15, 9:57am  

CaptainHorsePaste says
There was a 60 minutes episode about the Franklin Coverup, but I think it was yanked at the last minute due to pressure from all kinds of Elite Sources.


PBS I believe, not as big as 60 Minutes. You can find the rough copy online. It's one that I permanently seed.
21   richwicks   2021 Nov 15, 6:29pm  

NuttBoxer says
CaptainHorsePaste says
There was a 60 minutes episode about the Franklin Coverup, but I think it was yanked at the last minute due to pressure from all kinds of Elite Sources.


PBS I believe, not as big as 60 Minutes. You can find the rough copy online. It's one that I permanently seed.


Ah, the Franklin scandal.

I could post the bit torrent link, but I think Patrick may object. You probably have a few bytes from ME.

Conspiracy of Silence.

https://archive.org/details/ConspiracyOfSilenceBannedDiscoveryChannelDocumentary
23   HeadSet   2021 Nov 17, 6:33pm  

This Old Dominion University Allyn Walker is local news around here. He been placed on administrative leave, and many big donors have threatened to pull money unless this guy is permanently removed. Administrative leave likely include with pay.

"Having an attraction to minors, as long as it isn’t acted on, doesn’t mean that the person who has those attractions is doing something wrong," Walker told the Prostasia Foundation. They continued, saying that people with a sexual attraction to minors "would [cause] a lot of harm" if they acted on it, but that there is a "big difference" between those people and child sexual abusers.

Exactly what part of this is not true? I agree that a person attracted to minors has the duty never to act on those impulses. However, being attracted to minors is not something anyone chose, anymore that I chose to be attracted to pretty women. Likewise, sometimes I have the thought of murdering the dipshit that required my daughter to get that jab. That thought, however, does not make me a criminal - only acting on it would.

A few years back in the local news, a pedophile was arrested for accosting a 12 year old girl. This man found that he was unable to suppress his urges, so he self castrated with a razor blade. In my opinion, that was the right thing to do. If the urges can never be fulfilled without harming another, then remove the source of the urges.
24   AmericanKulak   2021 Nov 17, 6:39pm  

HeadSet says

Exactly what part of this is not true?


Remember what happened with Gays and Trannies?

It all started with "As long as it's behind closed doors between consenting adults..."
Then moved to: "We just want to be able to visit each other on the death bed"
Then it became: "We want exactly equal marriage"
Then: "We just want to stop bullying in High Schools"
Next: "Heather has two mommies. And the story of Jazz."
Finally: "We went LGBTQ behavior normalized and all opposition to it cancelled and censored as Homophobia and Transphobia. If you object to cartoon buttsecks shown to 6th Graders, you are a vile homophobe/transphobe who deserves to lose your job and be hated by society. Celebrate Jazz!"

Decriminalizing CP - which requires Child Abuse to be created - is a slippery slope. Slippery Slopes sometimes really are slippery.

The Domino Theory was real. It only halted because Pol Pot harassed Vietnam. Laos is still under Communism.

I'm glad a handful of morally blessed Pedos castrate themselves, physically or chemically. But, to paraphrase Chris Rock " You're not SUPPOSED to molest children, whataddya want, a cookie?"

Repeating a tactic that worked before is a no-brainer.
25   HeadSet   2021 Nov 17, 7:12pm  

CaptainHorsePaste says
Remember what happened with Gays and Trannies?

What is your point? That we should never admit that gays exist?
There are people who have an unnatural attraction to pre-pubescent children. They should NEVER act on it. No exceptions. No "slippery slope." And those that do not ever act on it are not criminals just because they have those urges.
26   AmericanKulak   2021 Nov 17, 7:17pm  

HeadSet says
What is your point? That we should never admit that gays exist?


No. That the "Pedos who don't actively molest are okay" narrative is intended to lead to the normalization of Pedophilia and, like Tranny and Gay "RIghts", the eventual punishment of anybody who opposes it.
27   richwicks   2021 Nov 17, 7:20pm  

HeadSet says
CaptainHorsePaste says
Remember what happened with Gays and Trannies?

What is your point? That we should never admit that gays exist?


I think he's saying that it's a slippery slope and we really don't want to slide down that path.

HeadSet says
There are people who have an unnatural attraction to pre-pubescent children. They should NEVER act on it. No exceptions. No "slippery slope." And those that do not ever act on it are not criminals just because they have those urges.


There is a slippery slope - he just demonstrated it. Why is LGBTQ bullshit being taught in government schools? If you want some BS class like that, do it AFTER school. Add an extra hour to school for extra-curricular BS for those that want to take it. From Bible study to homosexual erotica if you want - provided it's voluntary and not paid for by taxes. School is empty anyhow normally.
28   HeadSet   2021 Nov 17, 7:25pm  

CaptainHorsePaste says
That the "Pedos who don't actively molest are okay" narrative is intended to lead to the normalization of Pedophilia and, like Tranny and Gay "RIghts", the eventual punishment of anybody who opposes it.

OK, good point. But Pedos who do not molest are doing the right thing. Do you think they should be imprisoned? Imagine if you were told, as a hetero male, that you were never allowed to date women. If you get the urges, you can always date some men instead. That is the burden a Pedo faces. Still they must NEVER act on it, and it is never "normal."
29   AmericanKulak   2021 Nov 17, 7:32pm  

HeadSet says
OK, good point. But Pedos who do not molest are doing the right thing. Do you think they should be imprisoned? Imagine if you were told, as a hetero male, that you were never allowed to date women. If you get the urges, you can always date some men instead. That is the burden a Pedo faces. Still they must NEVER act on it, and it is never "normal."

Depends. If they have CP, yes. CP should never be decriminalized.

Unfortunately, the rate at which CP possessors molest is extremely high, along with their recidivism rate.

One of the main reasons we have animal cruelty laws is because of the strong correlation between animal abuse and violence against humans.

I expect, if the Left keeps "winning", that CP will be decriminalized and the sex offender registry ended or scaled back.

You'll also notice the very high correlation between Transgender and Child Abuse. I believe several of the "Drag Queen story time" participants had priors for crimes against the underaged, such as exposure or sexual assault.
30   richwicks   2021 Nov 17, 7:41pm  

HeadSet says
But Pedos who do not molest are doing the right thing. Do you think they should be imprisoned?


Only a nutcase would say thought crime should be punished.

Actual crime should be punished, but it's not. Anybody from Antifa or BLM in jail for their burning, looting, and even murdering?

A lot of this "compassionate caring 'I can sympathize'" bullshit is merely a distraction to keep us at loggerheads arguing how many angels can dance on the head of a pin as the world burns around us.
31   NuttBoxer   2021 Nov 17, 8:04pm  

HeadSet says
OK, good point. But Pedos who do not molest are doing the right thing.


There is no such thing as a pedophile who doesn't rape children. That is the definition of the word. If I ever meet one on the street, I will start swinging, and will not stop until they're unconscious.

I'm guessing you don't have kids. There is no gray here, no room for tolerance, NO justification. Nobody is born attracted to children. That is a sick fucking perversion of mankind. And it perfectly illustrates the bullshit theory that fags and dikes are born that way. I've never heard of or met a single one who wasn't abused.

These people are at best seriously fucked up and in desperate need of counseling. At worst, they are fucking evil incarnate.
32   Automan Empire   2021 Nov 17, 8:41pm  

Patrick says
The Left Has A Pedophilia Problem


NuttBoxer says
Just a reminder, that the Franklin Coverup scandal revealed deep networks across politics, law enforcement(local and federal), and CPS that went back to the 50's. But the particular party most directly involved were the Republicans.

When it comes to pedophilia, they're all to blame.


I agree with NuttBoxer's sentiment here, this is not, and should not be, made into a partisan issue. Trying to make it into one is an EXTREME example of the kind of contrived polarization that has become an unfortunate norm in American politcal discourse. Pedophilia is the type of accusation that should NEVER be treated lightly. I'm speaking as someone who went through a step-family breaking up because my SO developed some psych issues and became pathologically jealous of any time I spent with her daughter after years invested in a step-parent role, and thought nothing of playing that card at one point, then was quite shocked to find she couldn't just withdraw it and go back to before like nothing.

But when it comes to ACTUAL abusive pedophilia and child exploitation, I think that's one issue where pretty much ALL sane adults regardless of political persuasion would come together.
33   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2021 Nov 17, 9:16pm  

I noticed that a while too. All prominent media people were all homos, left constantly said that you are not allowed to criticize gays for whatever reasons, they practically worship this ass fucking shit. Who else you are not allowed to criticize that most "white" people afraid to say a word about? Sums up to it being a new hysteria which will be one day known as gay worship.
34   Automan Empire   2021 Nov 17, 9:33pm  

FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says
Who else you are not allowed to criticize that most "white" people afraid to say a word about?


Jews?
35   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2021 Nov 17, 9:36pm  

Automan Empire says
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says
Who else you are not allowed to criticize that most "white" people afraid to say a word about?


Jews?


Nah, they criticize them hard around here. Main stream media practically calls them terrorists while Palestinians the unsung heroes.
36   richwicks   2021 Nov 18, 12:47am  

NuttBoxer says
HeadSet says
OK, good point. But Pedos who do not molest are doing the right thing.


There is no such thing as a pedophile who doesn't rape children.


Yes there is, just like there's homosexuals that never have sex with men.
37   Automan Empire   2021 Nov 18, 8:43am  

richwicks says

There is no such thing as a pedophile who doesn't rape children.


Yes there is, just like there's homosexuals that never have sex with men.


Ever notice, the people most stridently against expressions of sexuality both hetero and homo, tend to be the LEAST sexually informed or engaged themselves?!?

When it comes to homosexuals and the laws and treatments they "deserve," homophobia is a last refuge for Libertarian and Republican hardcore closet authoritarians. Probably because they're closet 'mos, too- gonna put that on the table. I suspect grown men perfectly capable of self-defense who are vocally homophobic and act like they're afraid of being attacked by a gay person, are REALLY scared because part of them conflictedly WANTS it.

Better blatant than latent, friends.
38   AmericanKulak   2021 Nov 18, 8:46am  

The issue is antinomianism.

Buttsecks is a major vector for STDs, far worse than PIV or Oral Intercourse - this is incredibly well established.

The same people who claim to speak in the name of "The Science" don't want this taught in K-12 Sex Ed class, however.

The issue is NOT what people do in the privacy of their own home/bathhouse club.

The issue is that "Gay is Okay and even Cool" has become Officially Sanctioned, with those who disagree being unpersoned, and children being indoctrinated in Public Schools.

The same people who whinge about Intelligent Design being offered as a theory for OOL in School "imposing values" are the same who wish to impose the Alphabet Mafia value system. And CRT, for that matter.

The instigators of the Culture War are almost always the Left. From Eugenics, to Abortion, to Gay Marriage, to Trans Acceptance, to the ban on School Prayer to a generic Divinity. Sure, a few have tried to ban the Teletubbies from the school library, but 90% is from the Left.

That is NOT acceptable.
39   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2021 Nov 18, 8:56am  

richwicks says
NuttBoxer says
HeadSet says
OK, good point. But Pedos who do not molest are doing the right thing.


There is no such thing as a pedophile who doesn't rape children.


Yes there is, just like there's homosexuals that never have sex with men.


Then they aren’t gay. Gay is the sex choices. If they don’t, they really aren’t right?
40   AmericanKulak   2021 Nov 18, 8:57am  

Is it a coincidence that "Non Binary" people are front and center in leaping to Pedo Normalization?
https://archive.ph/ZGVdk

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