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I never noticed any animosity toward Hindus, but I've been out of school for a long time now.

Maybe there's some good-natured jokes about the owners of 7/11 stores, like Apu Nahasapeemapetilon on The Simpsons, but that's not racism no matter what the woketards say. I get people calling me "Paddy" around St. Patrick's Day every year too, and I don't mind.

Sikhs, unfortunately, get conflated with Muslims because of the beards and turbans, so Americans tend to be more suspicious of Sikhs thank Hindus imho. Especially after 9/11.

But I understand that Sikhism is very different from Islam. For example, Sikhs can leave the religion and no one will kill them, unlike Islam, where anyone who tries to leave must be murdered.

Now that I think about it, I worked in England for a summer in college, at British Telecom, and noticed things there that were different from America:

- Indians were considered "black" in England. In America, Indians are neither black nor white, just foreign
- Black people in England spoke with English accents, which I found funny. In America, most black people have a distinct "black" accent.
- Irish people in England were feared and loathed, which surprised me. In America, it's just normal to be Irish.

Patrick says

In America, it's just normal to be Irish.

Well slap my ass with a shillelagh, I had no idea America had that many wandering drunks, priests, and cops.

Patrick says

I never noticed any animosity toward Hindus, but I've been out of school for a long time now.

Maybe there's some good-natured jokes about the owners of 7/11 stores, like Apu Nahasapeemapetilon on The Simpsons, but that's not racism no matter what the woketards say. I get people calling me "Paddy" around St. Patrick's Day every year too, and I don't mind.

Sikhs, unfortunately, get conflated with Muslims because of the beards and turbans, so Americans tend to be more suspicious of Sikhs thank Hindus imho. Especially after 9/11.

But I understand that Sikhism is very different from Islam. For example, Sikhs can leave the religion and no one will kill them, unlike Islam, where anyone who tries to leave must be murdered.

It is the woketards in Univ going after the hindus. Hindus are considered worse than white males on oppression olympics scale. It is because of all the education In US and UK which denigrate the last surviving pagan culture. Even after all the discussions Hindus have with the education boards they still do not change the curriculum and majority grow hating a religion they do not even understand.

Have not seen specifically "Hinduphobia". However, discrimination of Asians is prevalent, and Indians fall under that category. See medical school admission rates by race.

indc says

Just because there is no unity in Hindus we see Hinduphobia in western universities.

And BJP/RSS the so called right wing party doesn't even talk about it. But khalisthani's keep grouping all hindus to one monolith.

How many 100,000's of visas will India give Americans to work IT jobs in Bombay, y'know, return the favor.

Or, We could just require India to buy $10,000 worth of US Made Goods for every Student they send.

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

Or, We could just require India to buy $10,000 worth of US Made Goods for every Student they send.

as much as I agree with the sentiment, ones who have to be blamed here are not Indians, but US politicians who created insane rules that benefit only large companies (as in flooding US job market thus removing bargaining ability of locals). Trump had a reasonable suggestion for fixing immigration system, but because ORANGE MAN BAD it was not even seriously considered.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/05/trumps-merit-based-immigration-proposal-makes-sense/589846/

President Donald Trump offered an immigration proposal that, in his words, “establishes a new legal immigration system that protects American wages, promotes American values, and attracts the best and brightest from all around the world.” As just about every news outlet that’s covered it has made clear, the proposal is very unlikely to make its way through Congress. But that is hardly surprising. Short of a no-strings-attached mass amnesty, it is difficult to envision Democrats in the House endorsing any legislative proposal from the Trump White House on an issue that has proved so divisive, and so richly resonant to left-of-center activists and donors.

Isn't it hilarious when Neoliberals run around saying "India is a multi-cultural, massive democracy"

And watch more people get killed in a month from Ethnic/Caste/Religious Riots in India than have died in 50 years in Europe & North America combined.

Patrick says

- Indians were considered "black" in England. In America, Indians are neither black nor white, just foreign

There's no history of Indians in the USA and thus, it's a novel thing with Ravi Shankar and the whole meditation/Guru Yoga thing. In England, India was a former colony and thus, old overlord attitudes remain.

Patrick says

- Black people in England spoke with English accents, which I found funny. In America, most black people have a distinct "black" accent.

Also, blacks in Britain tend to come from a more immigrant background ala Caribbean or West African and haven't lived in the hoods of America.

Patrick says

- Irish people in England were feared and loathed, which surprised me. In America, it's just normal to be Irish.

See IRA (not Individual Retirement Account) comments. And in the USA, up until the 80s, the Irish pubs in Boston did collect monies to be sent abroad for the IRA in Belfast. That was a shameful period, even for our local history, to be abetting terrorism esp against the families of our neighbors.

Plus Americans aren't Irish, they're of Irish descent (at least 1/4 for 70% of white Bostonians), big difference!

There’s definitely religionphobia, left hate everything that isn’t pro gays.

Fortwaynemobile says

There’s definitely religionphobia, left hate everything that isn’t pro gays.

Isn't it funny. they are OK with islam which will kill gays because it is mentioned in their book. But hindus who are ok with gays but are considered worse than worms by them.

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

Isn't it hilarious when Neoliberals run around saying "India is a multi-cultural, massive democracy"

And watch more people get killed in a month from Ethnic/Caste/Religious Riots in India than have died in 50 years in Europe & North America combined.

If 20% of your population is peacefuls(muslims) even you will see same deaths in Europe and North America. So in another 50 years you will average out. Religious is the only one which takes the maximum number. I dont know what you mean by ethnic. Everyone is of same stock. Caste riots are not many. If you have some figures I would like to check them. There are some fights between castes but not riots.

I can understand why you said ethnic, because that is what you see mostly in US.

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

Or, We could just require India to buy $10,000 worth of US Made Goods for every Student they send.

India already owns 300 billion $ US bonds. So each american owes 10000$.
Students who come to US pay 3 times the tuition that locals pay. That is the reason Univ want these students. Not because of some goodwill from US. Because of the stupid reservations policies in India it is loosing all this money.

India imports lot of expensive stuff like airplanes, oil, technology, defense equipment etc. It has to make some money to pay for those imports.

election2020 says

https://twitter.com/INSIGHTUK2/status/1370415902320132112
Excellent news. The Sikh man who pushed Hindooo and is brother-in-law of major Canadian Sikh politicians is arrested.
This is How law showed work.

In dirty Hindooo land this man personally killed 100s of Sikhs and is head of Indian state:
https://scroll.in/article/809821/what-was-kamal-nath-congresss-new-punjab-head-doing-with-mobs-during-the-1984-anti-sikh-riot
What was Congress leader Kamal Nath doing with mobs during the 1984 anti-Sikh riot?
In his book, Sanjay Suri recounts how the Congress leader appeared to be controlling the crowd outside Delhi’s Rakab Ganj Sahib gurudwara.

The law breakers should always be punished and la...

I know you are Khalisthan* basta**. Why didn't you mention the Sikh politician's name: Jagmeet Singh the Khalisthani. Who is in cahoots with SFJ which is banned by India now.
Kamal Nath was member of Congress party which has been ruling India for past 60yrs. So he was safe then. Now Congress party is in power In Punjab why doesn't amarinder singh do something about him. Why are punjabis still voting Congress party to power. He should have been brought to justice but there was no proof even author of article says that.

election2020 says

So in India 30000 Sikhs are killed and you have no proof and only 2-3 people arrested after 30 years.
Hindooo land is pathetic , No wonder Hondooo begs visa worldwide and Sikhs try to escape the occupation..

Do you have proof of 30000 killed? I did not say there are no proofs the article said there is no proof against kamal nath. I shared a twitter video of old sikh gentleman saying 70% of those rioters/killers were muslims but you did not even acknowledge it. That is the problem with you khalisthanis.

election2020 says

https://www.sikh24.com/2019/07/11/sfj-lodges-defamation-case-against-indian-government-in-canadas-superior-court-of-justice/
SFJ lodges defamation case against Indian government in Canada’s Superior Court of Justice.

They can file as many cases as they want in Canada nothing will come out of it. If they want the case to mean anything ask them to put case in India. If USA bans a russian entity they do not file a case in Russia they will file it in USA. HAHAHA.

election2020 says

They don't believe in Indian constitution and consider Punjab as occupied and Hindooo cult government as illegal and brutal(Nazi equivalent).
Like "Gadris" they want to fight Hindooo cult occupation of Punjab from outside.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghadar_Movement

Yes punjab is occupied. Please free it from pakistani occupation. Ghadar movement also had hindu members. The newspaper from them is called "independent hindustan". HAHAHA.

I feel sorry for you. Hope you can make your beloved khalisthan in canada by that bhindrewala tattooed aholes who is B-I-L of Jagmeet singh.

These posts do something I never imagined would ever happen. They make me wish there was a thread about the Armenian Genocide that I could click on instead.

Automan Empire says

These posts do something I never imagined would ever happen. They make me wish there was a thread about the Armenian Genocide that I could click on instead.

Exactamente. I don't even know what is Bharti etc and why anyone here should care.

Perhaps I should start a few dozen threads appropriately named "Why Russians are the source of All Evil, and their State is a direct offshoot of Khalistani Mongols" or "Why Germans Suck and oppressed ....(insert nationality here) in 14th century".

It would be great if we had one or two threads of internal Indian politics instead of 120391237 (unless those internal politics involve something we should care about).

indc says

Fortwaynemobile says

There’s definitely religionphobia, left hate everything that isn’t pro gays.

Isn't it funny. they are OK with islam which will kill gays because it is mentioned in their book. But hindus who are ok with gays but are considered worse than worms by them.

They are afraid of Muslims. Muslims shoot back.

Peace religions they aren’t afraid of, no pushback. Trust me if Christians or Hindus started shooting in revenge... they’d get respect too.

election2020 says

Turks like Hindooo still not admitted that they did Armenian Genocide.

Actually, many Turks I know, acknowledge the genocide but at the same time, reference it as the era of the fall of the Ottomans where falling empires and its clerics, do nasty stuff to those they see as potential enemies from within.

In other words, Ataturk, the founder of modern Turkey after WWI, rejected the power of Clerics/Imams and put Turkey on a path of a modern, secular nation.

Now that Erdogan is in power, they've given up on modern Turkey and see it as going back to the Ottoman days.

election2020 says

It is stupid as Turks reputation is down the toilet like Hindooos.

This is one of the reasons why members of the Turkish (Anatolian) diaspora do not like to live in Watertown MA, as it's the epicenter of the Armenian community, and to a lesser extent, the Greek one, for the greater Boston area.

In other words, they're blamed for what the Ottomans did, despite despising Erdogan and his fundamentalist regime of present times.

Tom Holland has commented on the pushback against secularity in both India and Turkey.
https://youtu.be/R8J2aChrf7Q?t=2035

EBGuy says

Tom Holland has commented on the pushback against secularity in both India and Turkey.
https://youtu.be/R8J2aChrf7Q?t=2035

The snippet I heard the guy was talking from his ass because he doesn't know India's history. When India got independence there was no word called secularism in constitution.
The founding fathers of India even though they got the constitution from US did not want the term secularism because it did not make any sense to them. Secularism is needed in abrahamic traditions because they had to be taught tolerance to others. In india it was not like. All religions were treated equally. That was the reason even syrian christians and muslims were able to settle in India before they came to conquer. The term was later added to constitution in 1976 under pressure from USSR and other world powers. It was added without the parliaments approval.

indc says

The term was later added to constitution in 1976 under pressure from USSR and other world powers.

Thanks. Fascinating.
WE, THE PEOPLE OF INDIA, having solemnly resolved to constitute India into a [SOVEREIGN SOCIALIST SECULAR DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC]
*Bold added in 1976