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Let’s spell out the more blatant shortcomings of Bitcoin


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2021 Mar 8, 8:35am   2,794 views  191 comments

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It may be true that Bitcoin’s distributed “ledger” is difficult for governments to crack, but governments can just abolish Bitcoin in a few keystrokes by criminalizing the trade of it and confiscating any theoretical profits from it. They have probably refrained so far because the traffic in Bitcoin is still relatively tiny compared to the trade in stocks, bonds, and their derivatives, and because they prefer to keep the Bitcoin model running as a demonstration project in preparation for their own entry into national cryptocurrencies, with all its advantages for tracking individual transactions and targeting tax liabilities.

Let’s spell out the more blatant shortcomings of Bitcoin: The blockchain may be theoretically bomb-proof, but the exchanges that Bitcoin trades on can be fiddled, hijacked, and erased from the universe, and Bitcoins with them. Remember Mt. Gox? When it went tits-up in 2014, 850,000 Bitcoins vanished (out of the 21 million that can ever be “mined” under the system as designed). Bitcoins were worth under $1000 when that happened. Also, keep in mind is that Bitcoin is meaningless without reliable electric service and the Internet that runs on it. How many Bitcoins were bought-and-sold in Texas those dark days a couple of weeks ago when a blue norther rolled in and the lights went out. Of course, trading Bitcoin might be the least of your problems when the pipes freeze and all the sheetrock in your house gets prepped for a black mold experiment.

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112   PeopleUnited   2021 Mar 10, 11:42am  

Bitcoin changed my whole life, said no one ever.
113   Bitcoin   2021 Mar 10, 11:42am  

So today we heard from wookie about security and he confused exchange hacks with the Bitcoin network. The Bitcoin network has never been hacked.
Then we heard from Huntertits there is no Bitcoin network but he then agreed with a website that talks about the Bitcoin network.

Do you guys have anything else for today? LOL
114   Bitcoin   2021 Mar 10, 11:44am  

PeopleUnited says
Bitcoin changed my whole life, said no one ever.


what about those that made life changing money with crypto?
115   PeopleUnited   2021 Mar 10, 11:53am  

Still waiting to hear from them. Did they all die of Wuhan flu?
116   Bitcoin   2021 Mar 10, 12:00pm  

PeopleUnited says
Still waiting to hear from them. Did they all die of Wuhan flu?


I dont know any of them died. I also dont know why they would reach out to you? Are you someone special they should talk to?


wild guess here....we wont hear a response from PeopleUnited :)
117   Bitcoin   2021 Mar 10, 12:04pm  

this is just too easy....nobody here that is capable of a debate?
118   WookieMan   2021 Mar 10, 12:08pm  

G36 says
So today we heard from wookie about security and he confused exchange hacks with the Bitcoin network.

How to you acquire your BTC? How do you sell it? How do you store your physical wallet? Your keys and passwords?

How do you stop miners from controlling 51%? Security is multi-layered. How do you stop one early adopter of BTC from yo-yo'ing the price that has 500k coins? How do you trade it when the exchanges shut down due to government regulation and no one trusts it anymore? Or the criminals no longer think it's worth it to be in it and pick a different coin? Or the IRS classifies it as a different asset class and taxes it at 50%?

Answer one or all. The questions I ask are all legit possibilities and concerns for security and a bunch of other things.

Fact remains, you don't answer questions. So you're a pumper/spammer.
119   WookieMan   2021 Mar 10, 12:10pm  

G36 says
par for the course

You can't afford to golf. Use a different term please.
120   PeopleUnited   2021 Mar 10, 12:31pm  

G36 says
wild guess here....we wont hear a response from PeopleUnited :)


Wild guess, these guys don’t pump bitcoin, plus I notice most of them were already rich. So it didn’t change their lives. Won’t change any of our lives. That is my point.

PeopleUnited says
Bitcoin changed my whole life, said no one ever.
121   Bitcoin   2021 Mar 10, 12:48pm  

PeopleUnited says
Won’t change any of our lives. That is my point.


I agree with that. If you dont invest in Bitcoin you cant make money off of it. Duh.
122   Bitcoin   2021 Mar 10, 12:49pm  

So Wookie wanted to debate security of Bitcoin but wasnt able to produce a single link/website/article that proves that Bitcoin can be counterfeited. Not ONE. Think about that. There are websites that claim the earth is flat. But there isnt one link he can find that shows Bitcoin can be counterfeited??? Not one???

Next thing you know he will take the discussion to a personal level. Its always the same pattern.
123   Bitcoin   2021 Mar 10, 12:51pm  

G36 says
Next thing you know he will take the discussion to a personal level. Its always the same pattern.


Told you so! :)



he cant actually debate Bitcoin's security, so he starts personal stuff. Par for the course!
124   B.A.C.A.H.   2021 Mar 11, 8:10am  

A much improved read now that I have the spammer on ignore. Still see some of his comments that you all have quoted. That's OK though.

I was working in what to this audience I might call Applied Nuclear Technology, as an employee while also doing my graduate thesis research in that area, when cold fusion became the "hot topic".

I remember reading long op-ed pieces in pop news sources of how it might work. Some respected science writers stuck their necks out to pen those articles.

Cold fusion came to dominate the agenda of the normally staid Electrochemical Society's biannual conference. The halls were packed with attendees. Many from the news media paid (probably, their employers paid) the high non-member registration fees to attend and listen to the mumbo-jumbo doublespeak talks.

Back at the job, and also the department at school, the Old Farts were skeptical. A few of the younger ones, including me, were hopeful that "this time it really is different", and if cold fusion really was a reality, a good "stick it to the man" phenomenon.

We know what happened after that. Cold Fusion was a head-fake. The "discoverers" of it, Professors Fleischmann and Pons, were True Believers. But what they "discovered" was a result of lack of rigorous attention to detail in their experiment protocols. Many, especially those who were not grounded in the field, had drunk the Cool-Aid.

You don't get it, you Old Fart: It's Different This Time.
125   Patrick   2021 Mar 11, 8:42am  

A spam text I got today:



It says:

How one earns cash with BITCOIN!

Join us and begin to become rich with Bitcoin!


Nice of Elon to have such concern for me.
126   Bitcoin   2021 Mar 11, 9:14am  

they need a better translator.

It should say "Wie Mann mit Bitcoin Cash verdient"

and "Begleiten Sie uns und beginnen Sie mit dem Bitcoin Code reich zu werden!"
127   WookieMan   2021 Mar 11, 9:16am  

Patrick says
Nice of Elon to have such concern for me.

He doesn't. I like and hate the guy. I literally think his life goal is to get the fuck off this planet which has been great for space exploration or at least rocket tech. He's probably printed close to $200-300M at this point with no effort though. He's almost certainly selling at a methodical pace while the the hype is buying his coin he's selling. Once you get over the peak of the mountain though, gravity still exists and this car has no brakes.

He's not like Hoffman in Rainman where it's obvious he's off. But something is off with the dude if you've ever watched long interviews or podcasts. He's not normal, yet he's brilliant.

Ultimately he likely pumped BTC by saying TSLA would set aside $1.5B for it and then bought a couple hundred million to test the market. The morons flowed in because it was Musk and the rest will be history. He'll walk out of the BTC door with hundreds of millions of OPM if he hasn't already. It's his mantra. That's what TSLA is. I genuinely believe it's all for his space exploration dreams. He creates companies, extracts money for himself and puts it into SpaceX. BTC is just another way to extract money from people.
128   Bitcoin   2021 Mar 11, 9:16am  

B.A.C.A.H. says
Cold Fusion was a head-fake
No wonder Tesla didnt invest 1,5B USD in Cold Fusion.
129   Bitcoin   2021 Mar 11, 9:20am  

WookieMan says
Patrick says
Nice of Elon to have such concern for me.

He doesn't
That was sarcasm, @WookieMan
130   Bitcoin   2021 Mar 11, 9:36am  

WookieMan says
I like and hate the guy.
@WookieMan,
I would like to ask you to stay on topic (Bitcoin) and move your comments about your feelings for other males into another thread. Thank you!
131   WookieMan   2021 Mar 11, 11:21am  

G36 says
WookieMan says
Patrick says
Nice of Elon to have such concern for me.

He doesn't
That was sarcasm

Lol. You make me laugh every day. Thanks.
132   WookieMan   2021 Mar 11, 11:25am  

G36 says
I would like to ask you to stay on topic (Bitcoin) and move your comments about your feelings for other males into another thread.

Not your topic. And it doesn't matter anyway, ignore works just fine chief. The OP believes BTC is bull shit, rightly so, and I commented on how Musk is pumping BTC. Furthering the fact that BTC is shit, as the OP states basically. Reading is a real thing. And you won't have a response to what I just posted. You'll post a graph and say Tesla. Maybe have an original thought and people would take you seriously.

You've got 10 ignores right now. That speaks volumes considering when you "joined" the forum..... for the 10th time....
133   Bitcoin   2021 Mar 11, 12:35pm  

WookieMan says
G36 says
WookieMan says
Patrick says
Nice of Elon to have such concern for me.

He doesn't
That was sarcasm

Lol. You make me laugh every day. Thanks.


I am glad to hear :) You dont get sarcasm but at least you can laugh :)
134   Bitcoin   2021 Mar 11, 12:38pm  

WookieMan says
G36 says
I would like to ask you to stay on topic (Bitcoin) and move your comments about your feelings for other males into another thread.

Not your topic.


I love Bitcoin topics, educating folks about the Bitcoin network is a passion of mine. But if you could just move your other stuff (discussing users Vs topic, your feelings for other men) into another thread, I'd appreciate it!
135   Patrick   2021 Mar 11, 12:58pm  

G36 says
mit dem Bitcoin Code


Maybe Bitcoin Code is feminine, in which case it would be "mit der Bitcoin Code".

They say native speakers immediately know which gender every noun should have. I never got a feel for that.
136   Bitcoin   2021 Mar 11, 1:04pm  

Patrick says
G36 says
mit dem Bitcoin Code


Maybe Bitcoin Code is feminine, in which case it would be "mit der Bitcoin Code".


it would be, if its feminine, which its not. I know its masculine in german.
regardless, the scammer said "mit die Bitcoin Code" which is wrong in any case.
137   Onvacation   2021 Mar 11, 1:10pm  

Patrick says
Maybe Bitcoin Code is feminine, in which case it would be "mit der Bitcoin Code".

Bitcoin is a bitch.
138   Bitcoin   2021 Mar 11, 1:21pm  

Onvacation says
Patrick says
Maybe Bitcoin Code is feminine, in which case it would be "mit der Bitcoin Code".

Bitcoin is a bitch.


oh she is! you cant get rid off her. She's resilient. They said she's dead 1000x times....and now look at her....looking beautiful at 56!

139   Onvacation   2021 Mar 11, 1:22pm  

G36 says
Onvacation says
Patrick says
Maybe Bitcoin Code is feminine, in which case it would be "mit der Bitcoin Code".

Bitcoin is a bitch.


oh she is!

Finally! We agree on something!
140   Bitcoin   2021 Mar 11, 1:23pm  

G36 says

oh she is! you cant get rid off her. She's resilient. They said she's dead 1000x times....and now look at her....looking beautiful at 56!


Apologies....she's 57! moving quickly that bitch :D

141   WookieMan   2021 Mar 11, 1:23pm  

G36 says
I am glad to hear :) You dont get sarcasm but at least you can laugh

You literally don't get the comment. You do realize it's possible to have a conversation off of patnet, right? You didn't get my math "sarcasm" comment or anything else.

And now you go personal as usual. Grow up.
142   Onvacation   2021 Mar 11, 1:24pm  

G36 says
Apologies....she's 57! moving quickly that bitch :D

That's what bitches do. They're volatile.
143   Bitcoin   2021 Mar 11, 1:24pm  

WookieMan says
G36 says
I am glad to hear :) You dont get sarcasm but at least you can laugh

must have hit the nail here.
144   Bitcoin   2021 Mar 11, 1:27pm  

Onvacation says
G36 says
Apologies....she's 57! moving quickly that bitch :D

That's what bitches do. They're volatile.


oh yes, in a parabolic way, look at her move:
145   WookieMan   2021 Mar 11, 1:30pm  

G36 says
WookieMan says
G36 says
I am glad to hear :) You dont get sarcasm but at least you can laugh

must have hit the nail here.

Learn to quote....
146   Bitcoin   2021 Mar 11, 1:32pm  

WookieMan says
G36 says
WookieMan says
G36 says
I am glad to hear :) You dont get sarcasm but at least you can laugh

must have hit the nail here.

Learn to quote....

wow, these wookie attack lines. "grow up" "learn to quote"
vicious baby
147   WookieMan   2021 Mar 11, 1:38pm  

G36 says
wow, these wookie attack lines. "grow up" "learn to quote"
vicious baby

Not really. Learn to use the quote function. Seriously. I know you don't know what BTC even is, but at least learn to highlight text correctly to quote on the site. Makes reading easier even though I know you like to use pictures because you have no independent thoughts.
148   Bitcoin   2021 Mar 11, 1:48pm  

WookieMan says
G36 says
wow, these wookie attack lines. "grow up" "learn to quote"
vicious baby

Not really.


give yourself more credit. These are vicious, vicious attack lines....
"grow up" "learn to quote"
Man, i am shaking
149   WookieMan   2021 Mar 11, 1:52pm  

G36 says
Man, i am shacking

Not sure what that means....
150   Bitcoin   2021 Mar 11, 1:53pm  

pls dont edit quotes. thats illegal :D
151   WookieMan   2021 Mar 11, 1:58pm  

G36 says
pls dont edit quotes. thats illegal :D

Now editing your own comments? I quoted it. I don't edit quotes unless they're my own or I use the strikethrough tag. I'm sure Patrick has logs of each comment. You're a top 3 liar I've ever seen on this site and that's saying something. Learn spell. We know reading isn't really working for you already.

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