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mostly_reader
2020 May 6, 1:10am
richwicks says
Do you claim that if Arab states lay down arms there will still be conflict, and submit settlements in the West Bank as proof?
Then you are either ignorant or intentionally misleading. Are you aware of the events of 1967, and how Jordan lost control of that land? How did that land become "subject to settlements"? Do you know what fedayeen made of it, until Israel got it under control? Do you know what King Hussein did with Palestinians who moved to Jordan, and why? This last point is relevant because it shows: fedayeen wreak havoc in any place where they find home. It later happened in Libya, which is no longer "Middle East Switzerland" and which may regret that they did not have their own King Hussein. When was the last time the West Bank attacked Israel, you ask? Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel#West_Bank It's one google search away, you are welcome. Also, google "terror attacks Jerusalim". "Settlements in West Bank" is as weak of an argument as they get.
Or do you claim that it proves that if Israel lays down her arms she'll be just fine? Then you are delusional, plain and simple.
That statement is both accurate and damning to your point of view. You'd need to try a lot harder than dismiss it by calling a name. So far, you've submitted hissy fit in lieu of arguments.
mostly_reader saysWhich of the two points that I stated do you dispute?> richwicks
There are exactly two things that matter most about this conflict:
1) If Arab states lay down their arms, there is no conflict
2) If Israel lays down her arms, there is no Israel
It's as simple as that.
Oh what utter crap.
When is the last time the West Bank attacked Israel? 25 years ago maybe?
Then why do Israeli settlements in the West Bank continue to expand then?
Because Israel is going to exterminate them, slowly, but they will.
And do you know how many times I've seen what you just wrote, repeated, to me, verbatim? You're repeating propaganda to me, not a thought. If you want to talk about this issue, think, don't just repeat propaganda. It's not a land without a people for a people without a land. The entire nation was built on lies and propaganda.
Do you claim that if Arab states lay down arms there will still be conflict, and submit settlements in the West Bank as proof?
Then you are either ignorant or intentionally misleading. Are you aware of the events of 1967, and how Jordan lost control of that land? How did that land become "subject to settlements"? Do you know what fedayeen made of it, until Israel got it under control? Do you know what King Hussein did with Palestinians who moved to Jordan, and why? This last point is relevant because it shows: fedayeen wreak havoc in any place where they find home. It later happened in Libya, which is no longer "Middle East Switzerland" and which may regret that they did not have their own King Hussein. When was the last time the West Bank attacked Israel, you ask? Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel#West_Bank It's one google search away, you are welcome. Also, google "terror attacks Jerusalim". "Settlements in West Bank" is as weak of an argument as they get.
Or do you claim that it proves that if Israel lays down her arms she'll be just fine? Then you are delusional, plain and simple.
That statement is both accurate and damning to your point of view. You'd need to try a lot harder than dismiss it by calling a name. So far, you've submitted hissy fit in lieu of arguments.
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richwicks
2020 May 22, 3:25am
richwicks
2020 May 22, 3:25am
mostly_reader says
I claim that the West Bank HAS laid down its arms 25 years ago, and they will slowly be driven our, or exterminated as a result, possibly a combination of both.
The West Bank is going to be annexed shortly. I give it about 5-10 years. The Palestinians in the West Bank, they are fucked.
Do you claim that if Arab states lay down arms there will still be conflict, and submit settlements in the West Bank as proof?
I claim that the West Bank HAS laid down its arms 25 years ago, and they will slowly be driven our, or exterminated as a result, possibly a combination of both.
The West Bank is going to be annexed shortly. I give it about 5-10 years. The Palestinians in the West Bank, they are fucked.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2020 May 22, 7:16am
MisdemeanorRebel
2020 May 22, 7:16am
richwicks says
If it's laying down it's arms, why does it continue to pay the families of terrorists who have committed attacks since then with PayToSlay? From it's International Aid Money, no less.
richwicks says
Yeah, they'll get without moving what all the Levantine Arabs want to do by claiming Rapefugee status - get into a high HDI country.
The solution is easily resolved - just treat Palestinians like all other Refugees, not the special inherited nobility refugees, where their parents, grandparents, and their children - are all considered Refugees despite having multiple citizenships and properties all over the world. Like Linda Sarsour, who is born in Brooklyn, to parents born in Jordan, and kids born in NYS, who own multiple properties in the US & Abroad - yet all are "Refugees".
All the Palestinians in Jordan, Lebanon (where the PLO caused the Civil War that resulted in the flight of Christians as to lose their plurality), US, UK will be correctly considered non-Refugees, because they aren't.
That being said, West Bank Palestinians should be forced out the next time there is a major world crisis and attention is elsewhere. Jordan is 75% of the Mandate of Palestine, that's their homeland. Gaza should be declared an independent country - and if any Gaza rockets should be launched at Israel, that's an attack by a sovereign state and an Act of War.
I claim that the West Bank HAS laid down its arms 25 years ago, and they will slowly be driven our, or exterminated as a result, possibly a combination of both.
If it's laying down it's arms, why does it continue to pay the families of terrorists who have committed attacks since then with PayToSlay? From it's International Aid Money, no less.
richwicks says
The West Bank is going to be annexed shortly. I give it about 5-10 years. The Palestinians in the West Bank, they are fucked.
Yeah, they'll get without moving what all the Levantine Arabs want to do by claiming Rapefugee status - get into a high HDI country.
The solution is easily resolved - just treat Palestinians like all other Refugees, not the special inherited nobility refugees, where their parents, grandparents, and their children - are all considered Refugees despite having multiple citizenships and properties all over the world. Like Linda Sarsour, who is born in Brooklyn, to parents born in Jordan, and kids born in NYS, who own multiple properties in the US & Abroad - yet all are "Refugees".
All the Palestinians in Jordan, Lebanon (where the PLO caused the Civil War that resulted in the flight of Christians as to lose their plurality), US, UK will be correctly considered non-Refugees, because they aren't.
That being said, West Bank Palestinians should be forced out the next time there is a major world crisis and attention is elsewhere. Jordan is 75% of the Mandate of Palestine, that's their homeland. Gaza should be declared an independent country - and if any Gaza rockets should be launched at Israel, that's an attack by a sovereign state and an Act of War.
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richwicks
2020 May 22, 12:41pm
richwicks
2020 May 22, 12:41pm
NoCoupForYou says
I don't know! Why did Trump collude with the Russians? Why did Iranians place limpet mines on oil ships, including a japanese tanker when Shinzo Abe was in Iran visiting to make a trade deal? Why did Assad keep gassing his own people? Why did Qaddafi threaten to cause a humanitarian crisis in Libya? How come Saddam Hussein had a weapons of mass destruction program in Iraq? Why did Ukraine have a revolution? Why did Iraqi soldiers invade Kuwait, to remove babies from incubators, to place them on the floor to die? Why did the Gulf of Tonkin Incident happen?
Gee whiz, I just don't know. Sometimes I suspect that the media might be lying to me, but how crazy and silly would THAT be!?!
Think it's possible you might be repeating propaganda?
NoCoupForYou says
They're already not considered human. They NEVER were considered human, not in 1947 and not today, at least by the Zionist supremacists.
As I said, the Palestinians will be wiped out and nobody will stop it, and it will happen slowly. It's on a clear, obvious 70 year trajectory now.
I claim that the West Bank HAS laid down its arms 25 years ago, and they will slowly be driven our, or exterminated as a result, possibly a combination of both.
If it's laying down it's arms, why does it continue to pay the families of terrorists who have committed attacks since then with PayToSlay? From it's International Aid Money, no less.
I don't know! Why did Trump collude with the Russians? Why did Iranians place limpet mines on oil ships, including a japanese tanker when Shinzo Abe was in Iran visiting to make a trade deal? Why did Assad keep gassing his own people? Why did Qaddafi threaten to cause a humanitarian crisis in Libya? How come Saddam Hussein had a weapons of mass destruction program in Iraq? Why did Ukraine have a revolution? Why did Iraqi soldiers invade Kuwait, to remove babies from incubators, to place them on the floor to die? Why did the Gulf of Tonkin Incident happen?
Gee whiz, I just don't know. Sometimes I suspect that the media might be lying to me, but how crazy and silly would THAT be!?!
Think it's possible you might be repeating propaganda?
NoCoupForYou says
The West Bank is going to be annexed shortly. I give it about 5-10 years. The Palestinians in the West Bank, they are fucked.
Yeah, they'll get without moving what all the Levantine Arabs want to do by claiming Rapefugee status - get into a high HDI country.
The solution is easily resolved - just treat Palestinians like all other Refugees,
They're already not considered human. They NEVER were considered human, not in 1947 and not today, at least by the Zionist supremacists.
As I said, the Palestinians will be wiped out and nobody will stop it, and it will happen slowly. It's on a clear, obvious 70 year trajectory now.
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Not a bad explanation, but I think it boils down to:
Humorless Prigs have a hard time being funny, and virtue signaling requires a long drawn out explanation of who is oppressed and who isn't that precludes humor
The only pithy leftist "memes" are basically unfunny insults, like OrangeManBad Ugly, or Conservatives are dumb.