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Do Patnetters know anyone who has died or is currently sick from the virus?

By NDrLoR follow NDrLoR   2020 Apr 5, 2:03pm 653 views   57 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


I don't--there have been two deaths in McLennan County, TX since a week ago with 51 local cases. I go to the store because that's the only place open, pick up a few things. I wish I had thought to ask my mother (1902-1997) during her life if she or her family knew anyone who died or even got sick during the 1918 pandemic. She had six siblings and none got sick and if they knew anyone who died or even got sick they never mentioned it. Since 675,000 Americans died of the flu and and an estimated 28% were infected with it, it seems hard to imagine you could not at least know someone who got sick. It lasted 13 months and killed more people than the Bubonic Plague did in 100 years, or so I've read about.

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18   Blue   ignore (0)   2020 Apr 5, 5:58pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I don't know directly. someone passed away because of the virus who worked for Broadcom,San Jose. He might have traveled to China.
19   rd6B   ignore (1)   2020 Apr 5, 6:16pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I know of two, a student whom I talked to about 12 days ago, and a Dr friend of mine. Both have symptoms of a common cold, were tested, and were found to have corona. Not heavy cases though even though Dr is in her early 60's.
20   HeadSet   ignore (3)   2020 Apr 6, 9:32am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch says
You can't catch a HOAX!


Nonsense. Quite a few are smitten with AGW Delusia. Symptoms often include blue hair and incoherent speech.
21   georgeliberte   ignore (0)   2020 Apr 6, 9:40am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I asked my wife that exact question on 4/1/2020. She said thousands have died form it. I asked again emphasising 'do you know'. Nobody here or in Vietnam.
23   ThreeBays   ignore (3)   2020 Apr 7, 5:59pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I found out a friend lost two of his relatives in New York in the last two weeks. Not sure if they were high risk or not.
24   WookieMan   ignore (4)   2020 Apr 7, 6:11pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

ThreeBays says
I found out a friend lost two of his relatives in New York in the last two weeks. Not sure if they were high risk or not.

They were...
25   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch   ignore (52)   2020 Apr 7, 6:21pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I know 7 but the only surprise is that I know that many crisis actors
26   komputodo   ignore (3)   2020 Apr 7, 6:22pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

yeah ...I heard that my 3rd cousin's girlfriend's brother's fiance worked with a person whose grandfather died from it.
27   WookieMan   ignore (4)   2020 Apr 7, 6:55pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch says
I know 7 but the only surprise is that I know that many crisis actors

You being serious? That would be like an exponential, hockey stick type thingy....
28   rd6B   ignore (1)   2020 Apr 7, 7:35pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch says
I know 7 but the only surprise is that I know that many crisis actors

You being serious? That would be like an exponential, hockey stick type thingy....

or AF is surprisingly socially skilled and has many ignores only virtually
29   rd6B   ignore (1)   2020 Apr 7, 7:38pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

BTW does not appear that I have corona even though I was in close contact with a corona-sick person 2 weeks ago, unless I am asymptomatic.
30   clambo   ignore (5)   2020 Apr 8, 10:21am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I have a female friend who is a liar, she’s interesting to talk to when she’s in her cups since she makes up shit.

She called me and said her live in fiancee got Wuhan and was in the hospital.
31   WookieMan   ignore (4)   2020 Apr 8, 10:29am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I don't know if AF was joking, but does anyone seriously know more than 3 people with this thing? Confirmed tested?
32   Fortwaynemobile   ignore (3)   2020 Apr 8, 10:30am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
I don't know if AF was joking, but does anyone seriously know more than 3 people with this thing? Confirmed tested?


Only 1.

I know local hospital has about 40 confirmed, 3 in ICU.
33   Tim Aurora   ignore (1)   2020 Apr 8, 11:03am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I know 2 . So far they are doing OK.
34   zzyzzx   ignore (2)   2020 Apr 8, 11:33am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Do Patnetters know anyone who has died or is currently sick from the virus?

Nope!
35   covid_shmovid   ignore (5)   2020 Apr 8, 11:53am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

No. With only 450 death in the whole state the chances of me knowing one of the victims would be slim anyway.
36   Patrick   ignore (1)   2020 Apr 8, 12:18pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

More than 2 million tests done in the US and we still don't know anyone who tested positive.
37   covid_shmovid   ignore (5)   2020 Apr 8, 12:22pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
More than 2 million tests done in the US and we still don't know anyone who tested positive.


Yeah, all seven of us. In a 300M+ country.
38   Patrick   ignore (1)   2020 Apr 8, 1:35pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Meant the wife and self don't know anyone who tested positive.
39   WookieMan   ignore (4)   2020 Apr 8, 8:56pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Really hate conspiracy theories and I'm not quite there yet. I think this is mainly bull shit at this point though. My nurse friends are fucking taking selfies on the clock of their masks and posting on social media. I feel like all the footage from Italy and a few other places was just shitty run hospitals and nothing more than that. Lots of drama and fake urgency in footage I've see on US hospitals. That's not at all how ER's operate.

Think about the media and video footage from China when this started.... "Building" a hospital with something like 100 backhoes/excavators in 5 days?? That makes zero sense in construction for a single level structure in an emergency situation. You use a bulldozer and level/grade the land. It would take 10X the effort to level land with a backhoe.

Is there any data that the overall death rate in first world countries is any higher than normal? Not sure if March numbers would be out yet, but stuff just hasn't been adding up. There theoretically should have been a jump, unless the virus is killing people that would have also died from some other typical bacteria or virus. And if that's the case, this whole shut down has been utter bull shit.
40   Eric Holder   ignore (0)   2020 Apr 8, 9:05pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
Really hate conspiracy theories and I'm not quite there yet. I think this is mainly bull shit at this point though.


I said it before and I say it again: it's not easy either to inflate or to hide deaths in the 1st world countries. India, China, Pakistan - no problem. But not US, Italy, Spain, UK. So, the only true measure whether this virus scare was "mainly bullshit" if there would be no significant spike in deaths registered for the period it was active.

Easy to check. Let's wait a little bit for all the data to be gathered and published and see for ourselves.

PS. Of course some fruitcakes will say that CIA is fudging death numbers all around the world because they are omnipotent and shit (looking at you, WP, you meds-skipping nutjob), but that's more about the failures of our mental healthcare system than anything else.
41   ThreeBays   ignore (3)   2020 Apr 8, 9:26pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
More than 2 million tests done in the US and we still don't know anyone who tested positive.


Depends a lot on where you are. California's attack rate is still very low, only 1 in 2500 tested positive. In
Santa Clara Clara county it's 1 in 1500.

In the most affected counties it's as high as 1 in 50 residents. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109053/coronavirus-covid19-cases-rates-us-americans-most-impacted-counties/
42   mell   ignore (4)   2020 Apr 8, 9:55pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Eric Holder says
WookieMan says
Really hate conspiracy theories and I'm not quite there yet. I think this is mainly bull shit at this point though.


I said it before and I say it again: it's not easy either to inflate or to hide deaths in the 1st world countries. India, China, Pakistan - no problem. But not US, Italy, Spain, UK. So, the only true measure whether this virus scare was "mainly bullshit" if there would be no significant spike in deaths registered for the period it was active.

Easy to check. Let's wait a little bit for all the data to be gathered and published and see for ourselves.

PS. Of course some fruitcakes will say that CIA is fudging death numbers all around the world because they are omnipotent and shit (looking at you, WP, you meds-skipping nutjob), but that's more about the failures of our mental healthcare system than anything else.


The deaths are real although inflated if you don't take away significant preexisting conditions. But the rate of people who got infected at some point and cleared it and stayed asymptomatic is likely much much higher, making it not more deadly than the flu. As long as there's no large supply of effective meds or a vaccine controlled build up of herd immunity over time is the only option.
43   WookieMan   ignore (4)   2020 Apr 8, 10:17pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

mell says
The deaths are real although inflated

I agree. It's an actual virus that exists for sure. Like I said, don't like conspiracy theories, and I'm not there yet with this virus. I think numbers are being inflated as well. We're hitting the "bad" week or two here and I still have only heard of 3 people testing positive that are friends/family of friends. No one I personally know has it.

Our first level sphere of friends and family is rather large. We chopped down the wedding invites from 500 to 300 a decade ago... So only 3 known positive tests of friends of friends. Probably ~3-5k people?

The numbers of people I'm talking about are rather mind boggling for 3 positive tests and that's it. 2 did die, but CV-19 was listed as the cause and in both cases the deceased were at deaths door anyway.

As each day goes by I keep questioning why we're shut down. It's pretty frustrating. Even the media needing this to keep going is reporting on the empty overflow hospitals and setups. 1+1 isn't equaling 2 right now in my mind.
44   ThreeBays   ignore (3)   2020 Apr 8, 10:21pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
We're hitting the "bad" week or two here and I still have only heard of 3 people testing positive that are friends/family of friends. No one I personally know has it.


Where are you from?
45   ThreeBays   ignore (3)   2020 Apr 8, 10:28pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
As each day goes by I keep questioning why we're shut down. It's pretty frustrating. Even the media needing this to keep going is reporting on the empty overflow hospitals and setups. 1+1 isn't equaling 2 right now in my mind.


That's a bit like saying my house is not on fire so I don't get the point of putting out the distant wildfire before it gets here.
46   WookieMan   ignore (4)   2020 Apr 8, 10:35pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

ThreeBays says
WookieMan says
We're hitting the "bad" week or two here and I still have only heard of 3 people testing positive that are friends/family of friends. No one I personally know has it.


Where are you from?

Illinois. One of the "hot pockets" so to speak. Worked and lived in Chicago for a decade. Not going to dox much more, but my wife and I easily know 3k people that would have mentioned something to us personally or via social media about a friend or loved one getting the virus. It's been 3 total. Don't have to believe me, but I'm not exaggerating. Kind of pointless to do so.
47   WookieMan   ignore (4)   2020 Apr 8, 10:37pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

ThreeBays says
That's a bit like saying your house is not on fire so don't get the point of putting out the wildfire before it got to your house.

Not at all. You're assuming that there's a wildfire. What I'm trying to say is someone is having a fire in their backyard, contained in a pit, the authorities see smoke and assume there's a wildfire... if that makes sense.
48   ThreeBays   ignore (3)   2020 Apr 8, 10:56pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
Not at all. You're assuming that there's a wildfire. What I'm trying to say is someone is having a fire in their backyard, contained in a pit, the authorities see smoke and assume there's a wildfire... if that makes sense.


I think you're assuming it's a pit fire because it seems small. But an epidemic is like a wildfire since it's free to spread as long as there's trees (people) to burn.

Hopefully the analogy makes sense. Wildfires spread from tree to nearby tree, until they reach space. Cut enough space between trees and it can't spread further, and burns out. Same here with the epidemic. We mingle, and the virus spreads. You've got community spread in your city. The social distancing has placed space between pockets of burning trees. Thats why it's slowed down significantly.

As far as cases per capita, Cook county isn't in the top 50 counties. It's a 10th of the most impacted county. So if you don't know how much worse it could be in your hospitals: at least 10 times worse.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109053/coronavirus-covid19-cases-rates-us-americans-most-impacted-counties/
49   komputodo   ignore (3)   2020 Apr 8, 11:54pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

What the hell difference does it make? If it was 5 times more deaths in your city, what would you do differently? Some people love to worry...others don't give a crap...It's always been like that... Do whatever makes you the most comfortable...You aren't going to change anything...If I actually thought I was going to catch it and die, I'd get as far away from people as I could and would not worry about work and money.
50   ThreeBays   ignore (3)   2020 Apr 9, 12:24am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag      

komputodo says
What the hell difference does it make? If it was 5 times more deaths in your city, what would you do differently? Some people love to worry...others don't give a crap


That's why it's becoming enforced action, because it's not just about what each individual feels comfortable with. It affects other people's safety, health workers safety, and also it affects how long out economy is going to be impacted as well. If you look at what states are looking for is the case counts to dip low enough where we start going back to work with lighter mitigations. If you care about the economy, stay the f at home. If you don't care anyway... carry on.
51   BayArea   ignore (1)   2020 Apr 9, 6:30am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

It’s hard to say. This isn’t exactly talked about openly and names aren’t even released by hospitals.
52   WookieMan   ignore (4)   2020 Apr 9, 6:36am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

ThreeBays says
As far as cases per capita, Cook county isn't in the top 50 counties. It's a 10th of the most impacted county. So if you don't know how much worse it could be in your hospitals: at least 10 times worse.

Again though there's an assumption people are making it to hospitals and overwhelming them and not dying at home. What I've been reading is the onset of symptoms, regardless of how long you've been exposed come on fast and hard. For the grandma sitting in her retirement community (not nursing home) that needs oxygen but can still function could die in less than 12 hours after feeling relatively normal.

ThreeBays says
Hopefully the analogy makes sense. Wildfires spread from tree to nearby tree, until they reach space. Cut enough space between trees and it can't spread further, and burns out. Same here with the epidemic. We mingle, and the virus spreads. You've got community spread in your city. The social distancing has placed space between pockets of burning trees. Thats why it's slowed down significantly.


This analogy makes sense. But if we're talking about wildfires, there's arguments out there that fire control and mitigation just make later fires worse or more frequent. But the analogy still holds true with my approach to some extent. We need to mitigate the forests or sections that are more likely to burn and do an extreme job at mitigating those spaces. So we're on the same page, I just think it's impossible if not negligent to try and mitigate every single wildfire in the world. It's not possible. Some of them are going to have to burn. Some may burn without us even knowing like my example above.

Because we have vaccines and modern medicine, humans for some reason believe they can control mother nature. Mother nature is gonna mother nature and not really care about our actions. This will spread again as we open up. Don't expect to see older people for a while and if you're old or have conditions, get ready for some good 'ole cabin fever. I think it's this class of people that should be getting all the stimulus and the rest of us go back to work while they stay in mandatory lockdown.
53   komputodo   ignore (3)   2020 Apr 9, 7:29am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

ThreeBays says
That's why it's becoming enforced action,

A half assed enforced action....street people still all over the place....stores open with people in them....politicians and reporters in close quarters with no protecttions....It's a joke...
54   Ceffer   ignore (5)   2020 Apr 9, 11:09am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Exercise in social control. When the military brings in the flame throwers, it'll make Jonestown look like patty cake!
55   Patrick   ignore (1)   2020 Apr 16, 8:29am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Finally heard of someone who died from Wuhan virus with a connection to us, sort of.

The 90 year old father of a French friend. He was in a nursing home in France. Never met him.

Our friend was not allowed to visit him in the hospital, or to attend his funeral. If the father had been a political activist, it would be very suspicious.
56   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   ignore (6)   2020 Apr 16, 8:36am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Up to nearly 60 cases at work. No deaths.
57   zzyzzx   ignore (2)   2020 Apr 16, 8:38am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

komputodo says
A half assed enforced action.


In Baltimore City laws aren't enforced to begin with, so I'm not worried about it.

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