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For those that believe this drug or drug combo is a "cure" I would suggest looking into how anti-viral drugs work. There is a tiny tiny chance this drug or drug combo will prove to be an anti-viral. that would be a huge stroke of dumb luck. I would bet anyone $1000 right now that if it has any affect on covid-19 patients its not curative or in any way acts as a true anti-viral.

Look at the diseases it is approved to be used for, Malaria (a parasite) and Rheumatoid Arthritis and Lupus (auto-immune). Why out of the thousands of drugs out there did the Chinese use this one? Its a maintenance/low dose drug for RA and Lupus, what does it do? it reduces inflammation in some way with these diseases. In other words it treats the symptoms and it may possibly have some affect on Covid-19 symptoms in the the same way Tylenol reduces fever but doesn't cure the underlying disease. There is a cascade of nasty and potentially deadly symptoms that the bodies immune response to covid-19 causes. I would guess, given its proven usefulness in auto-immune disease the Chinese saw this a way of potentially treating the death causing symptoms of their patients. And it may work for that, may. No magic bullet, no cure, no preventative but possibly useful in treatment.

rdm says

For those that believe this drug or drug combo is a "cure" I would suggest looking into how anti-viral drugs work. There is a tiny tiny chance this drug or drug combo will prove to be an anti-viral. that would be a huge stroke of dumb luck. I would bet anyone $1000 right now that if it has any affect on covid-19 patients its not curative or in any way acts as a true anti-viral.

That's not the point, it alleviates the severe effects of the virus, allowing people to recover. Dosing it will a broad-spectrum antibiotic helps keep Pneumonia from arising as a secondary condition.

Aspirin and Blood Pressure meds don't eliminate Heart Disease, but they do provide breathing space to either get the person to the hospital for further treatment (Bypasses, Stints, etc.), or reduce the strain on the heart allowing for years, sometimes decades of quality living. Should we forget about Beta Blocckers because they don't cure the underlying condition by itself?

NoCoupForYou says

That's not the point, it alleviates the severe effects of the virus,

Did you read my full post? Doesn't seem like it as you are repeating basically what I said like I didnt say it.

But this drug is not just being promoted as symptom relieving drug, but as a cure and a preventative, my point is that it is very very unlikely to be either.

rdm says

NoCoupForYou says

That's not the point, it alleviates the severe effects of the virus,

Did you read my full post? Doesn't seem like it as you are repeating basically what I said like I didnt say it.

But this drug is not just being promoted as symptom relieving drug, but as a cure and a preventative, my point is that it is very very unlikely to be either.

Most anti-virals have similar mechanisms and attack a common pathway for the virus to invade/replicate. This is a symptom relieve and an aid to a cure for those that need it until the body can mount a defense or if it mounts too much defense against high initial viral load. To select the cheapest one with mass-scaling manufacturing capabilities makes perfect sense. All the other drug and vaccine are for a later stage to immunize the weak/susceptible and treat the sick. This worked perfectly well and in favor of Trump, and against those hoping for more deaths and infinite lockdowns just because orange!man!bad!

rdm says

Look at the diseases it is approved to be used for, Malaria (a parasite) and Rheumatoid Arthritis and Lupus (auto-imune).

The Virus is Harmless, read Harmless! It has no effect what so ever on 98% of the people that get it. Ask Ron Paul!
I think, Know it all Egg Heads that refuse to look at the facts, because they already fucking know it all, and oh yeah Fuck Trump!
Need to sit their ass down and shut the fuck up.
What the Virus triggers in some, not all, but some. Is an auto immune response to attack the lungs and or other organs.


When you've got millions of clinical cases that were left untreated, and they all follow a curve once they get to a point of no return, and a large percent of them left untreated get to the critical stage.

Then you've got multiple Doctors, with charts for proof! That have treated large populations, and none of them ever got to the same state a percent of patients get, when left untreated.

Then one can logically conclude, anecdotal or otherwise, in the face of a Political charged partisan hacks that dominate Academics and Medical Administration. They can all go suck my DICK! I'm going with the facts, that these same motherfuckers would be going by if we removed the Variable Donald J. Trump. The Man that Saved the World.

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Tenpoundbass says

Donald J. Trump. The Man that Saved the World.

No aganda with this TpB.

Newsflash for TPB, Word of mouth in the medical community is 10000 times more powerful than what Trump says works or what the people with critical thinking skills say about questioning it.

If it works as you say, a lot of doctors will jump on board. We should see an awesome decrease in deaths, far outpacing the decrease in new cases. Doctors are open minded, but at the same time, they aren't gullible idiots. They can't afford to be. Well see.

marcus says

Tenpoundbass says

Donald J. Trump. The Man that Saved the World.

You can say that again!

https://www.theepochtimes.com/dr-harvey-risch-hydroxychloroquine-ivermectin-and-other-therapeutics-highly-effective-in-early-covid-treatment_4131804.html

Dr. Harvey Risch: Hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin, and Other Therapeutics Highly Effective in Early COVID Treatment

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Dr Zelenko Exposes How Dr Rick Bright'S Very Bad Move Sabotaged Early Covid Treatment Killing Masses

https://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1743-422X-2-69?source=patrick.net

Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread
Martin J Vincent, Eric Bergeron, Suzanne Benjannet, Bobbie R Erickson, Pierre E Rollin, Thomas G Ksiazek, Nabil G Seidah & Stuart T Nichol
Virology Journal volume 2, Article number: 69 (2005)

And HCQ is even better, having the same efficacy but being even milder on the patient.

https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/rapid-censorship-of-highly-positive?source=patrick.net

Rapid Censorship of Highly Positive Hydroxychloroquine Research Chart