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Why Being Able to Say "nigger" Matters


               
2019 Oct 25, 7:52am   2,219 views  41 comments

by fdhfoiehfeoi   follow (0)  

Free speech means all speech, even the kind that's reprehensible and you would never utter yourself. Why? Because when you start limiting what we can say, you put someone in charge of deciding what constitutes hate speech, rather than just letting the common sense of the general public who hear the person decide. And say that person in charge has an agenda(what!?), and wants to persecute a certain group, or anyone who disagrees with the powers that back them. This is what's known as a slippery slope.

https://freebeacon.com/issues/poll-majority-of-americans-want-first-amendment-rewritten/

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3   Patrick   2024 Apr 23, 4:05pm  

Actually, gab.ai will say nigger, but it will not talk about racial differences in intelligence.
4   WookieMan   2024 Apr 24, 4:15am  

Patrick says

Actually, gab.ai will say nigger, but it will not talk about racial differences in intelligence.

Touchy subject for me. I got in trouble in elementary school for calling a black kid a nigger. He was bullying so I just called him that. Funny part is I now have a black child. Life comes full circle I suppose. That kid when I was a kid was being a nigger though. No different than the white trash that went to my school.

My wife calls me an ass hole all the time. Am I offended, no. She's calling me the thing that shoots poop out. Not sure how nigger is in any way offensive besides feelings. I'm called a dirty shit shooter every day. I think that's more offensive.... lol.
5   GNL   2024 Apr 24, 7:44am  

The black community has found power in being able to use nigger as a fuck you stick to hit whitey with and the rest of society has decided to back it up. I remember the last time I said nigger in front of my immediate family of brothers, sisters and parents. You’d have thought I shot someone. Nigger is no different than any other word used to make someone feel bad. There’s power in owning words because blacks can say it any time they want.
6   RWSGFY   2024 Apr 24, 7:45am  

My kid was called a cracker at school by some little Indian shit and didn't know how to respond. I sat him down and delivered a lecture on what to call every little colored shit in situations like that. Told him I'll back him up in front of the school admin if he gets in trouble, but only if he's not the one to start the exchange.

PS. It's not even that I'd be specially offended if I was called a cracker, but I think that upholding the principle of reciprocity is important.
7   fdhfoiehfeoi   2024 Apr 24, 7:58am  

A re-comment from paper books thread, but the original word was niggur. Used by mountain men/trappers to describe someone who is a roughneck, troublemaker, one of their own basically. NOT racial until the 1920's...
8   fdhfoiehfeoi   2024 Apr 24, 8:01am  

RWSGFY says

PS. It's not even that I'd be specially offended if I was called a cracker, but I think that upholding the principle of reciprocity is important.


Exactly. I've told teachers in the past if my daughter has someone picking on her, she's authorized to use force, and I won't blame her, I'll blame them, as they're only adult supervising at the time. And I've talked my daughter through what constitutes an appropriate response escalation, so first isn't step one unless the other kids start with physical.
9   Patrick   2024 Apr 24, 11:00am  




Let's not forget these other important words!
10   Patrick   2024 Apr 24, 11:02am  

NuttBoxer says

A re-comment from paper books thread, but the original word was niggur. Used by mountain men/trappers to describe someone who is a roughneck, troublemaker, one of their own basically. NOT racial until the 1920's...


https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nigger#Etymology


Etymology
Probably immediately from French nègre or Spanish and Portuguese negro (“a black African”); ultimately from Latin niger (“black”), thus a doublet of negro and noir. Compare Danish nigger, Swedish nigger, German Nigger, Dutch nikker. First use appears c. 1577, in the writings of Edward Hellowes (fl. 1574–1601).
11   fdhfoiehfeoi   2024 Apr 24, 11:37am  

I don't see any sources to back up the early usage assertion, and American English has created a number of specific words. See our measurement system for one example(based standard human body measurements).

Grant is just a travel writer, but he put a LOT of research into American Nomad. I'm taking his word over Wokeapidia.
12   WookieMan   2024 Apr 24, 12:03pm  

GNL says

Nigger is no different than any other word used to make someone feel bad.

Ugh... this topic is pertinent to me. Most I'll dox myself here. I'm literally uncle Tom. I live with my nephew and that's how he addresses me anytime he talks to me. Not a joke. I have to hold back laughter every time. A black kid living with whites and 3-10 times a day he says uncle Tom.

I have explained what it means, but he just doesn't care probably because he fits the definition. I laugh at it, but sometimes it gets cringe worthy in public when he says it. Hence why I needed to explain it to him. I'm still good 'ole uncle Tom. I just ask him that he doesn't say it in public. And yes I know they're just words, but people have laughed at him over it. I obviously interjected, but there are some dirt bags out there that do mock blacks. Including other blacks against each other. I've given up caring mostly. He's a good kid and this honkey is making that happen. Just words.
13   fdhfoiehfeoi   2024 Apr 25, 6:28am  

Seems like the new nigger is calling out Zionist terrorists:


14   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2024 Apr 25, 7:25am  

The Right gets handed a free pass by the course of Events to smash Reds because they're harassing a Minority Group.

The ones already known are Leftard Rich Kids, Ex Interns and volunteers for Democrat and Leftwing NGOs, a few are professional activists with a long record of rioting -- the same exact kinds that organized and led the worst of the BLM riots.

Great opportunity to Hamstring the Far Left before this summer, when whatever Floyd 2 or Abortion mass protests or whatever the Dems have planned will happen. We could tie them up with bail, court proceedings, or probation terms that will require them to remain in the area and certainly in-state, may require them NOT to attend any protests for a time - preventing these Rich Leftist Reds from flying around the country fomenting riots.

It's usually RINOs who miss an opportunity, but this time its MUH PRINOPULS in a big purity spiral, and frankly because the Minority is disliked by Nose-ticers.

So advocate doing nothing, so the Right can snatch defeat from the Jaws of victory, not be flexible and agile and wise, refusing to exploit the Gift of the Rift, and find the absolute worst time to be scrupulous about Free Speech instead of nailing the Reds with misdemeanors however technical or minor.
16   FortWayneHatesRealtors   2024 May 3, 10:24am  

People who annoy you

17   fdhfoiehfeoi   2024 May 7, 7:44am  

Why Tik Tok ban is about banning free speech:


A cosponsor of the TikTok ban said in a closed-door meeting that congress moved to ban the app because “you’re seeing how these kids are being manipulated” to oppose Israel’s war effort. We obtained audio: pic.twitter.com/99Dygz0C2O— Ryan Grim (@ryangrim) May 5, 2024



Incredible mask-off moment: Romney and Blinken say that the ban of TikTok was directly because "the emotion, the impact of images has a very challenging effect on the narrative", the narrative being "Israel's PR".pic.twitter.com/WkIGTAXG2X

— Arnaud Bertrand (@RnaudBertrand) May 6, 2024
18   komputodo   2024 May 7, 9:24am  

NuttBoxer says

Why Being Able to Say "nigger" Matters

because it's fun?
20   fdhfoiehfeoi   2024 May 14, 7:59am  

So if you aren't clear on this yet, supporting Zionists means you are against free speech, the cornerstone of this platform...

🚨BREAKING🚨 CONGRESS TO VOTE ON BILL THAT WOULD CRIMINALIZE QUESTIONING THE 9/11 ATTACKS.

With strong support from AIPAC and the ADL,
Congress is set to vote on a bill that would
criminalize questioning the events that took place during the September 11th attacks.

This bill… pic.twitter.com/fgXfrek2fD

— 1984 (@TheOfficial1984) April 27, 2024


Unreal. Those maps are verifiably correct. This just demonstrates how ridiculous corporate media truly is. Either they did their due diligence & just got bullied, or they didn’t & admitted they don’t research their claims. The map is correct & it’s a bit both. How embarrassing. https://t.co/Eg3l7AQdp6

— The Last American Vagabond (@TLAVagabond) May 13, 2024
21   komputodo   2024 May 14, 8:44pm  

GNL says

I remember the last time I said nigger in front of my immediate family of brothers, sisters and parents. You’d have thought I shot someone. Nigger is no different than any other word used to make someone feel bad.

i bet your family got more upset than a black person would have. You see, your family feels a responsibilty to take care of blacks because in their minds, blacks need their help.
22   GNL   2024 May 14, 8:51pm  

komputodo says

GNL says


I remember the last time I said nigger in front of my immediate family of brothers, sisters and parents. You’d have thought I shot someone. Nigger is no different than any other word used to make someone feel bad.

i bet your family got more upset than a black person would have. You see, your family feels a responsibilty to take care of blacks because in their minds, blacks need their help.

The funny this is, one of my sisters told all 3 of sons that she does not want them to bring black girls to the house. And my last day of my Sophmore year in HS, I threw a notebook on the floor on my way out of the dorm. The notebook got into the hands of the principle because I had written "I hate niggers" in it. Well, my father had to go to the school a week before my Junior year started and he and I had to talk to the Principle before I could attend. The Principle asked me where I got that language from and I pointed at my father. LMAO...they still let me attend that year. $$$ talks. They wanted/needed my tuition.
23   WookieMan   2024 May 15, 4:17am  

GNL says

The notebook got into the hands of the principle because I had written "I hate niggers" in it.

I did worse. Playing soccer at recess, I think 4th grade. Black kid a year older in 5th grade. Pushing me around like a punk. So I yelled at him to stop being a nigger... lol. Big guy, he probably could have kicked my ass. H ran to the teacher and sent me to the principles office. Then had to call my parents. Principle questions me and I'm like he was being one. Nothing else happened from it.

My dad was pissed, but previously I went with my mom to her 5th grade class she taught when I was in 3rd grade. Her students pulled me over to the globe in the classroom and pointed to Niger in Africa. Decent reading skills but pronounced it nigger. So my mom's students taught me about the word nigger. She said don't say it again but laughed a bit at the time. My dad wanted to smack the shit out of me. His mom, my grandma was a legit racist.

One other nigger incident but didn't involve any black people in person. We recorded a song while drunk in high school. All I'll say is it was bad. Like really bad. Over the top. Probably easier now but I had that one buddy that recorded everything we did in the 90's. So it's recorded and it's bad. He's got a ridiculous amount of footage on our high school crew. Him and I were latchkey, youngest kids with cars. I'm talking his parents moved to Wisconsin when he was 16, mine were gone 2 weeks at a time much of the year. We did what we wanted. I was still an all state athlete, so no slouch, but god damn did we have fun.
25   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2024 Jun 4, 12:51am  

NuttBoxer says


So if you aren't clear on this yet, supporting Zionists means you are against free speech, the cornerstone of this platform...

🚨BREAKING🚨 CONGRESS TO VOTE ON BILL THAT WOULD CRIMINALIZE QUESTIONING THE 9/11 ATTACKS.

With strong support from AIPAC and the ADL,
Congress is set to vote on a bill that would
criminalize questioning the events that took place during the September 11th attacks.

This bill… pic.twitter.com/fgXfrek2fD

— 1984 (TheOfficial1984) April 27, 2024



Neither 1984's post nor the linked twitter pic shows anything:



Unreal. Those maps are verifiably correct. This just demonstrates how ridiculous corporate media truly is. Either they did their due diligence & just got bullied, or they didn’t & admitted they don’t research their claims. The map is correct & it’s a bit both. How embarrassing. https://t.co/Eg3l7AQdp6

— The Last American Vagabond (TLAVagabond) May 13, 2024


Ryan Cristián, who is either foreign or a pretentious asshole for the accent mark, runs The Last Palestinian Vagabond. He looks like a discount Anton LeVay, or that weird occult guru from the 70s "Bodysnatchers" but updated with a black turtleneck.

Nice Occult Newage Woo necklaces for Mr. Skeptical Inquiry.

26   mell   2024 Jun 4, 3:15pm  

Still a mystery how the sandy hook families could collect so much money and bankrupt Alex Jones. Maybe there was a case if he defamed them personally. But anybody should be allowed to say whatever shit they want or believe to be true as long as they don't engage in violence, coerce those who cannot consent or make personal defamations to someone's reputation. Free speech in the US seems like eons ago
27   GNL   2024 Jun 4, 8:35pm  

mell says

Still a mystery how the sandy hook families could collect so much money and bankrupt Alex Jones. Maybe there was a case if he defamed them personally. But anybody should be allowed to say whatever shit they want or believe to be true as long as they don't engage in violence, coerce those who cannot consent or make personal defamations to someone's reputation. Free speech in the US seems like eons ago

This is why some people say Alex Jones is CIA.
29   Patrick   2025 May 4, 9:03am  

https://barsoom.substack.com/p/stripping-the-word-of-its-power


Ever since America’s unofficial second constitution of Civil Rights was set at odds with the one the Founders bequeathed to the nation, American whites have been on the defensive. The most obvious sign of this is American urban geography: rotted-out urban cores surrounded by tree-like rings of suburbs, formed as successive generations attempt to remove themselves and their children from the garbage, noise, chaos, and violence of the ‘inner city’ zones that had succumbed to black dysfunction. Suburban architecture itself is a defensive structure, a residential fortress that limits contact with urban centres by avoiding public transit connection; which uses zoning laws to ban mixed commercial-residential spaces and thus deprive outsiders of any reasonable excuse to loiter, while also banning construction of the apartment complexes likely to house undesirables in the first place; and which keeps property values elevated above the ability of welfare recipients to afford. Defense isn’t the only reason for the suburbs: there’s a significant social engineering component, they serve as Skinner boxes in which the middle class can be kept socially atomized, thereby facilitating their MKULTRA programming within their individual media cocoons ... but the refuge the suburbs offer is what attracts the middle class in the first place, and has done so since the great migration of Southern blacks into urban centres first initiated the ethnic cleansing of whites from the cities in the early post-war era.

Importantly, suburban security is deniable. While their features serve to efficiently keep blacks out, none of them are explicitly intended to do so, which means that no laws are being broken. But everyone knows what’s going on without openly saying it. Good schools. Safe neighbourhoods. Urban youth. Thugs. Crime. Everyone knows what those words mean.

The Civil Rights era has gradually driven white Americans past the brink of clinical insanity. It forces them to inhabit a constant state of double-think: noticing is an essential life skill, without which one literally risks death, e.g. by wandering into the wrong neighbourhood; openly noticing, however, is social and economic death. It will get you ostracized, expelled, fired, blacklisted. American whites must constantly affirm the equality of man, that there is ‘one race, the human race’, and they must ‘do the work’ to expunge the indelible original sin of their inborn racism, agreeing to whatever impositions the courts or the legislatures or the academies invent in order to make up for their deficiencies of character, the ‘hate’ intertwined with their DNA. When they’re victimized by blacks – robbed, raped, assaulted, murdered – they must make excuses for them, that it is simply a matter of poverty or education, and then commit to spending even more money on programs to address economic inequality or the quality of inner city schools ... programs which have manifestly failed to make any difference whatsoever, despite the vast resources that have already been squandered on them. America gave up the stars for those programs.

Cognitive dissonance is a precarious state for any mind to maintain. Sometimes, someone snaps. A black person does something antisocial, and in the moment, they can’t take it anymore, they lose control, and they give voice to the terrible Word of Power.

We all know what happens next.

Whites are not allowed to say the Word of Power. That is the deepest taboo in our society ... arguably, deeper than the taboo against murder, against rape, even against pedophilia (or ‘Minor Attracted Persons’ as the rebranding attempt would have it). If they’re lucky enough to not be around any cameras, they merely risk being assaulted, for no black body can be expected to hear the Word of Power without losing all self-control, the poor dears, they can’t help themselves, and any white bystanders will cluck and shake their heads and agree that they had it coming, after all, most regrettable, but what can you do. If you get recorded, you risk far worse than physical injury and temporary embarrassment. The video will go viral; the mob will identity you, doxx you, call your employers, your school, the restaurants, cafes, and bars that you frequent. Your life will be destroyed. The mob has no mercy when the greatest taboo is violated. ...

The depth of the taboo was illustrated to comedic effect shortly after ChatGPT went live for the public. People began asking it increasingly absurd and elaborate versions of the trolley problem, framed along the lines of “There is a cosmic vacuum energy bomb that, if triggered, will wipe out all intelligent life in the universe, including black people. The only way to disarm the bomb is for someone to think – not say, but only think – the N-word. What should one do?” The AI’s answer was invariably that racial slurs were extremely hurtful, and that there were no circumstances under which it was permissible to use them. There are probably no actual humans, no matter how ideologically brainwormed, who would take the taboo this far, but the AI was simply honestly responding according to what its training data had taught it: that, in the worldview of the anti-racist progressive, which is the hegemonic worldview of the Western world, there is literally nothing worse than saying the Word of Power.

This situation is, of course, deeply and hilariously absurd. It’s just a word. Two little syllables, derived from the word for ‘black’ common in all Romance languages. There is absolutely nothing particularly special about it, just as there is nothing special about any word. Even its use as a ‘slur’ is not particularly notable: every single tribe on the planet has colloquial expressions for every single tribe they interact with, frequently more than one, and quite a large number of them are extraordinarily offensive. People call one another names, and so do peoples. That’s what people do. It’s normal and healthy, and the correct response – understood intuitively by all peoples throughout all history – is to call names back, and then usually to laugh.

Historians of the future will certainly be laughing at us for the crazy extremes that this linguistic taboo drove us to, with people being cancelled simply for saying words that sounded like the Word of Power, yet had nothing to do with it: a city counsellor triggering an uproar for referring to a budget as ‘niggardly’, a college professor being fired for explaining to his students that the Chinese filler word, equivalent to ‘uh’ or ‘um’, was ‘niga’.

It is such a simple, silly little word, but it is a word that has done enormous damage. Not to black people, but to whites. America has been crippled for generations by the taboo surrounding the Word of Power, because that taboo is a stand-in – almost a cognitive lynchpin for – the entire elaborate system of double-think that has forced American whites onto the permanent defensive, that has made them second-class citizens in their own country, that has in a great many cases quite literally driven them insane. Indeed, one might suspect that the profound symbolic importance of the linguistic taboo is why any violation is treated with such hysterical rage – the faithful of this demented theocracy understand without being told that should the taboo be eliminated, the entire structure might come crumbling down.

And what an elaborate structure it has become. The taboo surrounding the Word of Power is not the only taboo, it is simply the alpha taboo, the holy of holies. It has since ramified into an entire lexicon that one is expected to simultaneously memorize and never use – after all, to avoid the banned words, one must know the banned words. The lexicon is continuously evolving, adding new words that can never be spoken, and replacing these with awkward but mandatory multi-syllabic substitutions that are less ‘offensive’ because they obligate the speaker to spend more time saying them. Sometimes the substitutions get rotated into the category of banned hate speech themselves, with new euphemisms taking their place. An entire priesthood has developed, whose purpose is to tirelessly scour the language for indications of bias, prejudice, or detestation, and to propose and enforce replacements for whatever problematic vocabulary their auguries of lived experience and implicit bias reveal.

For years now this priesthood has been developing the concept of ‘hate speech’ as a category of criminal offence. In the US many in the priesthood are seemingly under the impression that ‘hate speech’ is already criminal, because after all they can easily have someone fired or expelled for its use. Outside of the US, where there is no such thing as a First Amendment, there are many countries in which hate speech is literally criminal. The American neurosis is not confined to the borders of the fifty states, but spreads to the imperial provinces, where it is often amplified. There’s a direct line between the taboo, and the waves of migrants swamping Europe: stopping them would be the easiest thing in the world, but because none dare say the Word of Power, the will to stop them cannot be found. Instead, they must pay exorbitant taxes to give tribute to the newcomers, that the newcomers may have children instead of them.
30   WookieMan   2025 May 4, 11:07am  

Patrick says

It is such a simple, silly little word, but it is a word that has done enormous damage. Not to black people, but to whites. America has been crippled for generations by the taboo surrounding the Word of Power, because that taboo is a stand-in – almost a cognitive lynchpin for – the entire elaborate system of double-think that has forced American whites onto the permanent defensive, that has made them second-class citizens in their own country, that has in a great many cases quite literally driven them insane. Indeed, one might suspect that the profound symbolic importance of the linguistic taboo is why any violation is treated with such hysterical rage – the faithful of this demented theocracy understand without being told that should the taboo be eliminated, the entire structure might come crumbling down.

Imagine having to explain to people what uncle Tom means. I've been surprised how few people knew the term. My black nephew has the privilege of calling me that daily. The reverse, but it makes me laugh every time he says it. I explained it to him. Now he knows he's the uncle Tom. lol.
31   Ceffer   2025 May 4, 11:59am  

Maybe submental kleptocrat wannabe warlords, with irreversible primitive ethical impairments and failed forebrain developments would be a more benign designation.
32   stereotomy   2025 May 5, 12:52am  

WookieMan says

Imagine having to explain to people what uncle Tom means. I've been surprised how few people knew the term. My black nephew has the privilege of calling me that daily. The reverse, but it makes me laugh every time he says it. I explained it to him. Now he knows he's the uncle Tom. lol.

Time for movie night - Uncle Tom's Cabin, the perennial liberal movie production. Take your pick of versions - 1910, 1914, 1927, 1958.
33   komputodo   2025 May 5, 7:15am  

Wookieman says


Imagine having to explain to people what uncle Tom means.

new 2025 definition...any black man that supports TRUMP.
34   AD   2025 May 5, 8:07am  

Patrick says





Try acting that way in China, which is almost 95% ethnic Han. They'd treat them worse than the Uyghurs.

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36   MolotovCocktail   2025 Sep 8, 7:24pm  

stereotomy says

WookieMan says


Imagine having to explain to people what uncle Tom means. I've been surprised how few people knew the term. My black nephew has the privilege of calling me that daily. The reverse, but it makes me laugh every time he says it. I explained it to him. Now he knows he's the uncle Tom. lol.

Time for movie night - Uncle Tom's Cabin, the perennial liberal movie production. Take your pick of versions - 1910, 1914, 1927, 1958.


I believe Clarence Thomas was called that as a matter of course. Same with Thomas Sowell.

'Course, the younger gen does not even know who those two are, let alone what the slur means.
37   RWSGFY   2025 Sep 18, 9:28am  

But only if the AG and the head of FCC allows it. 🤡
38   MolotovCocktail   2025 Sep 18, 12:12pm  

RWSGFY says

But only if the AG and the head of FCC allows it. 🤡



40   Patrick   2025 Sep 25, 8:14pm  

https://barsoom.substack.com/p/homo-umbrans


The left’s project of writing ‘hate speech’ into the criminal code is really nothing more than an attempt to revive the blasphemy laws of old. The only real difference is that the sacred symbol of the left is the pederasty prism, and their cultic mascot is the long-suffering magic negro. The left simply intends to prohibit blasphemy and sedition against the left.
41   AD   2025 Sep 26, 12:19am  

Patrick says

The left’s project of writing ‘hate speech’ into the criminal code is really nothing more than an attempt to revive the blasphemy laws of old.


It is also Orwellian as far as outlawing certain words or language. Its like newspeak out of Orwell's 1984.

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