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What Both Sides Don't Get About American Gun Culture


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2019 Aug 6, 7:45am   5,155 views  57 comments

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https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/08/04/mass-shooting-gun-culture-227502

One of the most authoritative and interesting surveys of the attitudes of gun owners was conducted by the Pew Research Center in 2017. That survey shows the vast majority of Americans who own guns are not members of the NRA and that most favor some form of gun control. However, most refrain from pushing for greater regulation of guns because they neither trust the government nor believe that it will protect them. They often resent the disdain for their way of life of the kind expressed by President Barack Obama when he suggested they “cling to guns or religion” as a way of expressing “antipathy to people who aren't like them … as a way to explain their frustrations." They see themselves as on their own in a dangerous world.

The sale, manufacture, distribution, purchase and production of guns, as well as the views of their owners, are, in part, responses to the perceived weakness of the government and the perceived need for constant vigilance and a concomitant interpersonal fear. As dangerous weapons, guns offer a form of direct power in a world where trust and civic belonging are in short supply.


Why do we have a country where trust and civic belonging are in short supply?

https://archive.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/05/the_downside_of_diversity/

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43   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Aug 8, 12:32pm  

Like Free Speech Zones on State Funded Campuses...
44   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Aug 8, 12:35pm  

d6rB says
They do not bother to show up and investigate thefts, if they catch thieves it is more by a stroke of luck, and even murder clearance rate in big cities is abysmally low.


D6rB, you live in California?

Lots of Californians saying that's a problem.

Police won't even come out for people blaring Spanish Gangster Cowboy music at 160dB in the Suburbs at 3AM despite multiple calls
45   GNL   2019 Aug 8, 7:35pm  

HEYYOU says
There is only one side to guns.

"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

It's too complex for all Americans.
They can't understand one of our most concise simplest rights.
I'm forming a militia,the only regulation is that one must own a gun.Therefore no Rep/Con state can place any regulations on my ownership of "arms". DONE!
Fucking Republicans & Democrats think they can add any infringements they choose. They even want to have restrictions on what can be said in & on locations of their choosing.

Not one American is a psychic or time traveler. No one has a clue to what the founding fathers were thinking or saying in private discussions of the 2nd Amendment. No reports by the media of the day twisted or left anything ,they knew,out.
They all had an agenda. Bet some said: "Fuck no ! No one is taking my guns."

Fact - There are 126,000,0...

What the hell? This sounds like you flip flopped.
46   Ceffer   2019 Aug 8, 8:41pm  

d6rB says
They do not bother to show up and investigate thefts, if they catch thieves it is more by a stroke of luck, and even murder clearance


I read a couple of years ago San Francisco is a great place to commit a murder. It may not have the highest murder rate, but it has an abysmal clearance rate for the murders it does have. Guess all those Sherlock detectives you see in police procedural fiction didn't apply in good ole SF.

Also, if you DO get caught for murder, your chances of getting off or with limited punishments are superior due to the deluded nature of the LibbyFuck populace comprising the juries and the intensive lobbying of the rapacious Bar, with SJW lawyers and judges to boot.
47   HeadSet   2019 Aug 8, 8:43pm  

Also, if you DO get caught for murder, your chances of getting off or with limited punishments are superior due to the deluded nature of the LibbyFuck populace comprising the juries and the intensive lobbying of the rapacious Bar, with SJW lawyers and judges to boot.

Yes, like that illegal with an illegal gun that killed that woman on the dock.
49   HeadSet   2019 Aug 9, 6:32am  

marcus says


Let's have a ban on fully automatic weapons that can shoot 600 rounds per minute. Oh, wait, we already do.
50   Bd6r   2019 Aug 9, 12:18pm  

CHARLOTTE, N.C. — Authorities in North Carolina say a customer armed with a concealed gun shot two robbery suspects at a 7-Eleven, killing one and injuring the other.

Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police spokeswoman Cindy A. Wallace said in a news release that two suspects held the customer at gunpoint and took his wallet early Thursday morning.

That's when they say the customer "perceived a lethal threat" and pulled out his gun and shot the suspects.

News outlets report that 16-year-old Qwanterrius Stafford died at a hospital.

Police charged 17-year-old Brenna Harris with attempted robbery with a dangerous weapon, conspiracy to commit armed robbery and armed robbery from person.

North Carolina automatically charges teens 16 and older as adults.

News outlets report the customer will not face charges.

https://www.wral.com/customer-with-concealed-gun-kills-7-eleven-robbery-suspect/18559463/
51   GNL   2019 Aug 9, 1:53pm  

marcus says

Is that you sitting on the ground Marcus? Admit it, it is right?
52   Bd6r   2019 Aug 9, 2:34pm  

jazz_music says
Too bad they weren't in El Paso.

Very, very unfortunate...if El Paso gunman would have been shot, we would have one idiot less in this world AND massive $$$avings because he would not need to be incarcerated for 10 years before he is executed.
53   mell   2019 Aug 9, 2:49pm  

d6rB says
CHARLOTTE, N.C. — Authorities in North Carolina say a customer armed with a concealed gun shot two robbery suspects at a 7-Eleven, killing one and injuring the other.

Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police spokeswoman Cindy A. Wallace said in a news release that two suspects held the customer at gunpoint and took his wallet early Thursday morning.

That's when they say the customer "perceived a lethal threat" and pulled out his gun and shot the suspects.

News outlets report that 16-year-old Qwanterrius Stafford died at a hospital.

Police charged 17-year-old Brenna Harris with attempted robbery with a dangerous weapon, conspiracy to commit armed robbery and armed robbery from person.

North Carolina automatically charges teens 16 and older as adults.

News outlets report the customer will not face charges.

https://www.wral.com/customer-with-concealed-gu...


Why should the customer face charges? They should get a medal instead for 2 less low life thugs in this world.
54   steverbeaver   2019 Aug 9, 9:17pm  

I think what we need to do is require that all of those evil scary AR-15s and ammo get traded in for AR-10s and an equivalent number of rounds. Then the guns won't be so powerful because the numbers are lower.
55   Booger   2019 Aug 10, 5:39am  

mell says
News outlets report that 16-year-old Qwanterrius Stafford


If Obama had a son.

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