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California’s high-speed rail project was fucked by the hiring of costly consultants who were big campaign donors

By Patrick following x   2019 Apr 28, 10:32am 967 views   92 comments   watch   nsfw   quote     share    


https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-california-high-speed-rail-consultants-20190426-story.html

But actually reducing the role of consultants will be problematic because they have become cemented into place.

When state rail authority employees go to their Sacramento headquarters, they work in offices rented by a consultant. When they turn on their computers, much of their data is stored on servers owned by consultants. The software they use to help manage the project is the property of a consultant.

The rail authority’s consultants are hardly household names, but they are politically powerful and made major contributions to support the 2008 political campaign for the bullet train bond. They have staffed their ranks with former high-level bureaucrats, and their former executives have occupied key government posts.

They include such firms as WSP, Project Finance Advisory, Cambridge Systematics, Arup, T.Y. Lin, HNTB, PGH Wong Engineering, Harris & Associates, Arcadis, STV, Sener Engineering and Systems, Parsons Transportation and many others.


It was pure old-school corruption, a specialty of Democrats.

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81   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2019 May 1, 12:00pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HeadSet says
So what happened to all "telecommuting" projected years ago? Cannot most office work, call center, meetings, and other tasks be done at home by remoting in?


It's another reason high speed trains are retarded. That's already happening. Even here in lo-tech IL most my buddies in white collar jobs are working from home 2-3 days a week when not traveling.

Self driving cars will be the next wave. And then I think it will be drones. We've had well over a century of trains and it worked very well as the best mode of transportation for that time. But freight has called and they want their tracks back. There are so many more simple ways to travel, that put the costs on the user completely and not the government "making" everyone else pay for something they'll never use. It gets annoying after a while subsidizing Metra (local commuter train by me) riders, who pay fares that don't cover the costs of what they're using. If they raised fares to match actual costs, it would be cheaper to own, insure, fuel and park a car as a commuter and ditch the train. No one would use the train, reducing revenues.
83   Hugolas_Madurez   ignore (4)   2019 May 1, 12:05pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HeadSet says
So what happened to all "telecommuting" projected years ago? Cannot most office work, call center, meetings, and other tasks be done at home by remoting in?


Yes, it can, but some SV companies are currently discouraging the practice. Most of the biggest players either allow only 1 day WFH or don't allow it altoghether. Especially the ones which provide free food / dry cleaning / gim / yoga studios on-prem.
84   kt1652   ignore (1)   2019 May 1, 12:21pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Debate tactics of the dishonest.

I never said I think high speed rail is the one-and-only mass transit solution.
I said: "You're confusing issues. corruption and inefficiency or incompetence is not inherent of a high-speed rail "
And there are countries that had implement hs rail successfully, just because Calif leaders are corrupt, incompetent does not mean a modern efficient rail line cannot be part of the solution where it will help.
Then I went on to say, by not doing anything in 20 years, things had gone from bad to worse.
True that I spelled badly posting from phone, but login Patnet on work pc would be worse than stupid.

After hours wasted, is half-baked flying electric drone still clinging to life?
I surrender, enough time wasted on "miracle-needed" solutions.
85   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2019 May 1, 12:29pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

kt1652 says
After hours wasted, is half-baked flying electric drone still clinging to life?
I surrender, enough time wasted on "miracle-needed" solutions.


What? You turning into Yoda?

It's not a debate tactic either. We're just pointing out that after massive investment into high speed, there's little to show for it. Can blame politicians or government all you want. At the end of the day, if it was viable, it would have already happened by now in CA or anywhere meaningfully here in the states. There's a reason for that. It's not possible with the EXISTING infrastructure people can use at a much cheaper cost. Factor in the way cities and outlying suburbs were planned and high speed trains are dead on arrival. We're just looking towards the future and not trying to put the locomotive into a car garage or a rooftop landing pad.
86   socal2   ignore (0)   2019 May 1, 12:35pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

kt1652 says
And there are countries that had implement hs rail successfully, just because Calif leaders are corrupt, incompetent does not mean a modern efficient rail line cannot be part of the solution where it will help.


But if we can't make it work in California, where else in the US is it going to work? It is time for some real soul-searching about the technological limitations without blaming it all on corruption.

Those other countries you talk about are basically boiled down to Europe whose cities were already built around existing rail lines built 100+ years ago and China which can use slave labor, have little environmental regulations and are building new train lines to build cities around them after the fact.

Trying to put high speed rail in already built out areas is a much more difficult task.
87   Goran_K   ignore (2)   2019 May 1, 12:43pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Diane Feinstein and her husband should be in prison for corruption related to this project. How does a sitting California Senator get a nearly $1 billion cut of this project directed to a company her husband runs?

Ridiculous Democrat corruption.
88   OccasionalCortex   ignore (3)   2019 May 1, 6:23pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

kt1652 says
I said: "You're confusing issues. corruption and inefficiency or incompetence is not inherent of a high-speed rail "
And there are countries that had implement hs rail successfully, just because Calif leaders are corrupt, incompetent does not mean a modern efficient rail line cannot be part of the solution where it will help.
Then I went on to say, by not doing anything in 20 years, things had gone from bad to worse.


All of which is a totally bogus 'point', as the real problem is that HST isn't economically viable in America except in a very few, specific high density population corridors.

But you keep refusing to deal with that and instead scream about 'dishonest debate tactics' for your made-up fantasy context you keep insisting is real but is not.
89   Booger   ignore (2)   2019 May 16, 7:23pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The high speed rail project is an absolute disaster. Near zero oversight on spending, tremendously over budget and off schedule. The bad part is most democrats don’t understand what any of that means.
90   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2019 May 16, 7:24pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Why do they hate enlightened patronage?
91   OccasionalCortex   ignore (3)   2019 May 16, 7:47pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Booger says
Near zero oversight on spending


Oh there was oversight....the pols, unions and donor/contractors kept track of what spoils were distributed or I am a monkey's uncle.

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