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We are already injecting treated wastewater into the ground to replenish aquifers and to prevent sea-water intrusion along the coasts.
Yes - it is that hard. What size is the pipe to be built ? What about the pumps needed to push that water into the existing infrastructure - are they in place ?
more sensible than thinking we can change society so we can change the weather.
More rain on the way this weekend. And next week as well.
I just don’t know how we will survive these drought conditions!
I’m doing my part though. I haven’t turned on my sprinklers in almost three months now!
No - it's really not that hard. The pipe is only 54" in diameter and they installed it in about a year. It doesn't take that much pump energy as they can utilize gravity to push alot of the water to the existing water infrastructure.
The desalination project is nothing compared to the massive water works projects California built 100 years ago which are still in use today. Most of Southern California would be absolutely uninhabitable if we didn't redirect and transport water from Northern California through massive canals, dams, tunnels, pipes and pump stations.
Man made the desert bloom in California. Just like they did in Israel.
Humanity has no choice but to engineer solutions for our water supply and other environmental problems. It's absolutely doable and more sensible than thinking we can change society so we can change the weather.
I know this will never get read by 99% of the people following this thread however should one wish to actually learn something - try reading it.....
Cadillac Desert is a stunning expose and a dramatic, intriguing history of the creation of an Eden--an Eden that may only be a mirage.
"Disappearing Water"? Sounds interesting. Can you also recomment a book on "Peak Oil", while we are at it?
might learn something along the way other than posting stupid comments.
Read the book - study physics - it's much much harder than it looks - much.
Speaking of stupid, hey Kaki, seems like you have a lot of time on your hands in retirement.
Enjoying going through "disliking" every one of my posts? Nice job! Feel better?
read the book 25 years ago while getting my degree. PBS did a good documentary on it too. It's not quite the indictment you think it is.
I've been doing this business for 25+ years in SoCal. Trust me, the cost of generating desal water is not the huge cost driver in the scheme of things. It is all the existing water distribution system assets (pipes, canals, dams, pumps) let alone pensions and trains to nowhere that take up the most money.
Dude - I'm in the industry. I know a couple things about this topic.
It is not really needed east of the Rockies since they aren't under constant drought pressure.
Can anyone really question the tight correlation btwn population growth and energy demand?
We can desalinate all of the water we need. Sure it costs money and creates icky carbon emissions - but we already have the means to create all of the water we need. And desalination technology is getting better and better and will require less energy in the future.
"Disappearing Water"? Sounds interesting. Can you also recomment a book on "Peak Oil", while we are at it?
Ball and a team of researchers from institutions around the world wanted to more accurately measure trends in the ozone layer. For their study, they synthesized and then analyzed multiple satellite data sets of atmospheric ozone. The data cover the tropics and mid-latitudes, from 1985 through 2016. The team found ozone in the upper stratosphere has indeed rebounded since 1998. “It’s clear it's going back up,” Ball says. “This is exactly where we’d expect to see the Montreal Protocol working its best.”
Hugolas_Madurez saysThe Montreal Protocol Strategic Ozone Protection. worldwide agreement to phase out ozone depleting refrigerants (R11, R12 and others) that were in widespread use and shift to (R22, R410A and R134A for cars) was perhaps the most successful environmental protection achievement ever. The Antarctic ozone hole has been basically healed. Sad, that something that is a more serious threat is politically unachievable today."Disappearing Water"? Sounds interesting. Can you also recomment a book on "Peak Oil", while we are at it?
Peak Oil, Manhattan/Miami Underwater, and needing SPF 5000 to go out in the sun of 2010... the Leftist versions of Illuminati Black Helicopters.
Which reminds me, what happened to the Ozone layer that was going to be completely destroyed unless we went back to 1700s standard of living1
And don't tell me about that stupid Ozone protocol. Chinese industry and emmissions went up an order of magnitude since then.
That picture is crazy, and is/was a major obstacle for high speed rail in Cali.
Scientists from government and academia
Also not sure where Miami gets it's water maybe it does pump from under it's feet or one is just pulling shit out of their ass.
Any links?
ha, ha, the 97% of independent climate change scientist, concensus of NASA scientist, the US military strategic planners, AAAS, ACS, AGU, AMA, AMS, U.S. National Academy of Sciences , The Geological Society of America, Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change ... I'm tired of typing.
Just remember, Miami is underwater because of sea water rise from Global Warming, while California is sinking because of pumping water out of the ground.
Any chance that same thing is happening in Miami with the aquifers being emptied and subsidence?
Nah... impossible, right?
Soil subsidence due to the city being built on swamps - aka - New Orleans.
http://www.ces.fau.edu/arctic-florida/pdfs/fiaschi-wdowinski.pdf
Just remember, Miami is underwater because of sea water rise from Global Warming, while California is sinking because of pumping water out of the ground.
Any chance that same thing is happening in Miami with the aquifers being emptied and subsidence?
Nah... impossible, right?
What does that mean precisely ? "in the industry" ?
Sounds like it comes with an inherent bias towards a particular solution that may or may not be in the public's best interests but certainly is in the best interests of whatever solution is being promoted by a particular "industry".
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300 inches is 25 feet.