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College Course: Heterosexuality Is Not “Natural”
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2018 Sep 10, 10:02am 12,860 views 65 comments
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NuttBoxer
2018 Sep 12, 10:59am
NuttBoxer
2018 Sep 12, 10:59am
curious2 says
Now I understand how your view are so off, you pick and choose your facts, IRREGARDLESS of context. Fuck, all you had to do was read the title to know you were wrong...
"Same-Sex Rape and Slavery
Lex Scantinia exempted freeborn men from prosecution in the case of rape or forced passive intercourse. However, it was considered a capital crime for one freeborn to rape another, such an act carrying a sentence of death."
That's false. Your own link says "declared illegal" in 390AD
Now I understand how your view are so off, you pick and choose your facts, IRREGARDLESS of context. Fuck, all you had to do was read the title to know you were wrong...
"Same-Sex Rape and Slavery
Lex Scantinia exempted freeborn men from prosecution in the case of rape or forced passive intercourse. However, it was considered a capital crime for one freeborn to rape another, such an act carrying a sentence of death."
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Bd6r
2018 Sep 12, 11:30am
Bd6r
2018 Sep 12, 11:30am
P N Dr Lo R says
Have to admit that I did not know who Alinsky is. Looked up, and difficult to see connection with topic of discussion here. Agree though that a person who spent his life trying to improve black neighborhoods of Chicago is a loser, judging from the present state of those neighborhoods which may be even in a worse situation today.
Saul--patron saint of losers--Alinsky
Have to admit that I did not know who Alinsky is. Looked up, and difficult to see connection with topic of discussion here. Agree though that a person who spent his life trying to improve black neighborhoods of Chicago is a loser, judging from the present state of those neighborhoods which may be even in a worse situation today.
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curious2
2018 Sep 12, 2:01pm
curious2
2018 Sep 12, 2:01pm
NuttBoxer says
is a crime even now, whether heterosexual or homosexual, and it is a separate topic.
BTW, you keep citing ancient-origins.net. That is a really odd site: for example, "The Grail Code: The Mystic Druidic Teachings of Jesus of Nazareth." If you want to read a site that reinterprets the principal character of Christianity as a mystic druid, that's up to you, but don't expect others to believe it. I read the whole article on Lex Scantinia, and found it contradicted your interpretation. If you want to read about Lex Scantinia, you might start with Wikipedia and then continue to the sources cited in that article.
Lastly, you have not even tried to address Thebes, Sparta, and Athens, which you would need to address in order to support your false claim above.
rape
is a crime even now, whether heterosexual or homosexual, and it is a separate topic.
BTW, you keep citing ancient-origins.net. That is a really odd site: for example, "The Grail Code: The Mystic Druidic Teachings of Jesus of Nazareth." If you want to read a site that reinterprets the principal character of Christianity as a mystic druid, that's up to you, but don't expect others to believe it. I read the whole article on Lex Scantinia, and found it contradicted your interpretation. If you want to read about Lex Scantinia, you might start with Wikipedia and then continue to the sources cited in that article.
Lastly, you have not even tried to address Thebes, Sparta, and Athens, which you would need to address in order to support your false claim above.
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mell
2018 Sep 12, 10:40pm
Patrick says
Not only that. While there may be closeted curiosity there are men who literally feel sick or have their gag reflex triggered when confronted with gay male porn. Similar to some people who are afraid of or abhor spiders or snakes. So for some it is actually physically unpleasant.
I do think that there is some kind of subliminal recognition of which activities spread disease most effectively, and those are called "immoral" by religions because they are a threat to the future of groups that approve of them..
Lesbians do not spread disease, thus the very muted response to lesbianism.
It's "immoral" for devout Jews to eat pork or oysters because they had enough remembered history to see the results. They just know what's likely to happen.
Or, in the most abstract sense, God is what is. So God himself may well punish you for eating oysters.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_that_I_Am
Not only that. While there may be closeted curiosity there are men who literally feel sick or have their gag reflex triggered when confronted with gay male porn. Similar to some people who are afraid of or abhor spiders or snakes. So for some it is actually physically unpleasant.
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curious2
2018 Sep 13, 4:26am
curious2
2018 Sep 13, 4:26am
Aphroman says
"The Onion: Why Do All These Homosexuals Keep Sucking My Cock?
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I've tried all sorts of things to get them to stop, but it has all been to no avail. A few months back, I started wearing an intimidating-looking black leather thong with menacing metal studs in the hopes that it would frighten those faggots off, but it didn't work. In fact, it only seemed to encourage them."
How are these people being confronted with gay male porn?
"The Onion: Why Do All These Homosexuals Keep Sucking My Cock?
***
I've tried all sorts of things to get them to stop, but it has all been to no avail. A few months back, I started wearing an intimidating-looking black leather thong with menacing metal studs in the hopes that it would frighten those faggots off, but it didn't work. In fact, it only seemed to encourage them."
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NuttBoxer
2018 Sep 13, 9:08am
NuttBoxer
2018 Sep 13, 9:08am
curious2 says
Your source Wikipedia still says the same thing, it was illegal for Romans to do it to other Romans. Which makes this:
NuttBoxer says
WRONG. Unless you want to re-define the entire Roman empire solely by how they treated their slaves(ridiculous).
If you want to read about Lex Scantinia, you might start with Wikipedia
Your source Wikipedia still says the same thing, it was illegal for Romans to do it to other Romans. Which makes this:
NuttBoxer says
and then the Romans, and all three embraced ubiquitous homosexuality.
WRONG. Unless you want to re-define the entire Roman empire solely by how they treated their slaves(ridiculous).
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curious2
2018 Sep 13, 1:00pm
curious2
2018 Sep 13, 1:00pm
NuttBoxer says
"The conflation of the Lex Scantinia with later or other restrictions on sexual behaviors has sometimes led to erroneous assertions that the Romans had strict laws and penalties against homosexuality in general... As John Boswell has noted, "if there was a law against homosexual relations, no one in Cicero's day knew anything about it."
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A Roman's masculinity was not compromised by his having sex with males of lower status, such as male prostitutes or slaves, as long as he took the active, penetrating role... Male prostitutes and entertainers, even if technically "free," were considered infames, of no social standing, and were also excluded...."
So, you are talking about a law that prohibited raping citizens of particular social standing. Half the population were either slaves, entertainers, or prostitutes, and prostitution was also legal. To the extent Lex Scantinia applied at all to consensual sex, it prohibited some male citizens from submitting/serving. It was definitely not a prohibition against homosexual relations generally, which remained legal until after Constantine imposed Christianity.
IOW, more than a thousand of years of history disproves your original, false claim. Thebes, Sparta, Athens, and Rome prospered at the top of the food chain for many centuries, much longer than all of American history. Note again that the history of Rome spanned 1,000 years of a rising republic and empire, then conversion to Christianity, which resulted in decline and fall.
curious2 saysIf you want to read about Lex Scantinia, you might start with Wikipedia
Your source Wikipedia still says...
"The conflation of the Lex Scantinia with later or other restrictions on sexual behaviors has sometimes led to erroneous assertions that the Romans had strict laws and penalties against homosexuality in general... As John Boswell has noted, "if there was a law against homosexual relations, no one in Cicero's day knew anything about it."
***
A Roman's masculinity was not compromised by his having sex with males of lower status, such as male prostitutes or slaves, as long as he took the active, penetrating role... Male prostitutes and entertainers, even if technically "free," were considered infames, of no social standing, and were also excluded...."
So, you are talking about a law that prohibited raping citizens of particular social standing. Half the population were either slaves, entertainers, or prostitutes, and prostitution was also legal. To the extent Lex Scantinia applied at all to consensual sex, it prohibited some male citizens from submitting/serving. It was definitely not a prohibition against homosexual relations generally, which remained legal until after Constantine imposed Christianity.
IOW, more than a thousand of years of history disproves your original, false claim. Thebes, Sparta, Athens, and Rome prospered at the top of the food chain for many centuries, much longer than all of American history. Note again that the history of Rome spanned 1,000 years of a rising republic and empire, then conversion to Christianity, which resulted in decline and fall.
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QUEER ECOLOGIES
FALL 2018
This course will address the interdisciplinary constellation of practices that aim, in different ways, to disrupt prevailing heterosexist discursive and institutional articulations of sexuality and nature…
http://professorconfess.blogspot.com/2018/09/college-course-heterosexuality-is-not.html
https://courses.newschool.edu/courses/LCST3875/7681/
Davis explained that queer ecologies is an “interdisciplinary field that examines the relationship between sexuality and nature, thinking beyond the boundaries of assuming that heterosexuality is the norm or standard.”
The field “inquires into the sexual lives of animals, plants, and bacteria—lives that are often much more strange, adaptable, and queer than anything humans do,” she elaborated. “It also seeks to critique how heterosexuality is presumed as natural.”
One example of this, Davis asserted, is how scientists often characterize plants using gender-specific language.
“We still tend to characterize plants that reproduce sexually in heterosexual terms where a male and female plant need to transfer gametes. Although this understanding of plant reproduction is not un-true, it misses the point that in order for these plants to fertilize they also rely on other species, such as bees and wasps,” she argued.
Darwin is spinning in his grave. The assault on biology, which was mostly from bat-shit crazy religious right, now is joined by bat-shit crazy left. Difference though is that MSM who is vocal in criticism of the Right, will ignore the crazies on the Left.