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I'd pay 5-6% more on food but no cheap imports


               
2018 Aug 25, 6:05am   5,601 views  12 comments

by MisterLefty   follow (1)  

Iowa murder draws attention to agriculture industry's hiring of undocumented immigrants

Dane Lang, a co-owner of Yarrabee Farms outside of Brooklyn, Iowa, stood outside his family farm this week and lamented that he had employed the undocumented immigrant charged in the murder of 20-year-old Mollie Tibbetts.

Then he was asked if any other non-U.S. citizens were among the 10 employees on the dairy farm.

"I don't think I can comment to that," Lang said.

That vague answer highlights the worst-kept secret in the agriculture business: roughly half of the nation's 1.4 million field workers (47 percent, or 685,000 workers) are undocumented immigrants. And that estimate, from the Labor Department, is a conservative one with labor experts citing far higher percentages.

While presidents have approached undocumented immigrants living in the U.S. in vastly different ways, Republicans and Democratic administrations — under heavy lobbying from the agricultural industry — have always treated undocumented farm workers differently.

While the federal government was herding more than 100,000 Japanese immigrants into internment camps during World War II, it was also administering the Bracero Program, which allowed millions of Mexicans to enter the U.S. to work on farms.
charged with first-degree murder in Tibbetts' death, initially said they used that program to screen Rivera, but later backtracked and conceded that they had used a different system not designed to flag immigration violations.

"That would have a pretty big impact on future flows of illegal immigration," Chmielenski said.

When President Ronald Reagan signed a landmark immigration law in 1986 that granted amnesty to nearly 3 million undocumented immigrants, those who worked on farms were given the easiest path to U.S. citizenship.

A bipartisan immigration reform bill that passed the Senate (but not the House) in 2013 would have created a special "blue card" just for agricultural workers and their immediate families that granted them legal status and the chance to become U.S. citizens.

And now, many Republicans are citing Tibbetts' death as a reason to pass a bill requiring all U.S. companies to use the federal E-Verify system to check the immigration status of all job applicants. But even that bill — the Legal Workforce Act filed by Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas — gives farmers 2.5 years before they must start vetting their field workers, the only such exception.

Chris Chmielenski, deputy director of NumbersUSA, a group that advocates for lower levels of legal and illegal immigration, said that history reflects both the power of the agricultural industry, and the willingness of politicians to help them out.

He says the easiest solution would be to require that all U.S. business use E-Verify, which allows employers to check the immigration status of job applicants using a government website. The Iowa farm that employed Cristhian Bahena Rivera, who is

But farmers, ranchers, and other business owners who rely on undocumented immigrants say passing an E-Verify bill would cripple their industries. Already struggling to recruit enough Americans to do the back-breaking field work, and operating under the constant threat of raids by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, they say implementing E-Verify with no other changes to the immigration system would put untold numbers of companies out of business.

That's why the U.S. Chamber of Commerce said that it would only support mandatory electronic worker verification if it's coupled with an overhaul, and expansion, of the country's guest worker programs. The American Farm Bureau Federation goes a step further, arguing that passing E-Verify alone would cause production to drop by $60 billion and food prices to increase by 5 to 6 percent.

"Farmers and ranchers get that we have immigration laws in our country, and they want nothing more than to be able to attain their workers legally," said John-Walt Boatright, the national affairs coordinator for the Florida Farm Bureau. "But we cannot have E-Verify without a workable, functioning, accessible guest work program in place."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/08/24/iowa-murder-casts-spotlight-farms-hiring-undocumented-immigrants/1075320002/

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1   marcus   2018 Aug 25, 6:11am  

I'm pretty sure food has already gone up more than 6% since Trump was elected.
2   CBOEtrader   2018 Aug 25, 6:41am  

It's the other end of food industry as well. At restaurants every kitchen is half filled w illegals. Bars often use those eastern euro illegal hotties.

If there is an opportunity, US business owners will take advantage.

I think we should eliminate welfare/entitlements to illegals, get rid of the minimum wage, make all schooling private, then just let them all in.
3   Tenpoundbass   2018 Aug 25, 8:34am  

Trump should fly in about 20,000 South African White Refugees GIVE them Federal land and give them a loan to set them up to farm.
There would be so much food, the Food Tycoons, will jump out of windows. The return of Ten count Value Family packs of Rib Eye steaks for $12.00.
4   FortWayne   2018 Aug 25, 9:16am  

Work visas and removal of welfare would organically solve this problem.

But left demanded welfare state and illegals.
5   WookieMan   2018 Aug 25, 9:37am  

CBOEtrader says
At restaurants every kitchen is half filled w illegals.


This is true. Very true. ICE could have a field day at every one off mom and pop restaurant around the country.

CBOEtrader says
Bars often use those eastern euro illegal hotties.


Where are these bars? Eastern Euro chicks are intriguing. I guess being a heavy mix of Lithuanian will do that to you. I'm 3rd gen. cold blooded American though, so I'm a mutt at this point.

CBOEtrader says
I think we should eliminate welfare/entitlements to illegals, get rid of the minimum wage, make all schooling private, then just let them all in.


Yes, maybe, no and no.

I take the greatest exception to the schooling thing. Our populace needs to be educated. Unfortunately illegals are going to get into schools. We need to clean up the instruction for sure, but I'm not totally adverse to an illegal slipping into the school system as our current immigration system and border are constructed.

And yes, illegal immigration needs to be addressed, but somehow not allowing an illegal into a classroom is going to backfire for sure. Haven't looked at the Iowa details, but that could be an example.
6   CBOEtrader   2018 Aug 25, 9:58am  

WookieMan says
Our populace needs to be educated.


Public schools are indoctrination centers. They arent there to educate, they are there to control thought. See the dear colleague letter and the resulting far leftist indocreination resulting thereof as a huge example.

While in Panama I went to many cocktail parties with the current governing party. Their elite class is far more open about it. I've heard them say things like "it isnt in our best interest to educate the populace." And "just buy off the common man w trinkets and we keep power forever". Our system isnt different.

Government needs to stay out of education.
7   bob2356   2018 Aug 25, 12:09pm  

CBOEtrader says
It's the other end of food industry as well. At restaurants every kitchen is half filled w illegals. Bars often use those eastern euro illegal hotties.

If there is an opportunity, US business owners will take advantage.

I think we should eliminate welfare/entitlements to illegals, get rid of the minimum wage, make all schooling private, then just let them all in.


Tenpoundbass says
Trump should fly in about 20,000 South African White Refugees GIVE them Federal land and give them a loan to set them up to farm.


FortWayne says
Work visas and removal of welfare would organically solve this problem.


Let em in for the businesses from the trump supporters. What happened to build a wall? Hypocrisy much guys?
8   CBOEtrader   2018 Aug 25, 12:27pm  

Bob still lacking a keen sense of nuance. Go back and try to understand the differences between my scenario above, and the current environment.

Also, I've never argued for a wall, but I certainly see the potential value. The biggest issue in the wall debate is the "RACISM" propaganda from the left. I have and will continue to disagree with fake moral outrage used to manipulate the soft brain of the masses.
9   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Aug 25, 3:45pm  

bob2356 says
Let em in for the businesses from the trump supporters. What happened to build a wall? Hypocrisy much guys?


What's wrong with letting refugees, oppressed by tyrannical governments, into the country?
10   RWSGFY   2018 Aug 25, 3:54pm  

marcus says
I'm pretty sure food has already gone up more than 6% since Trump was elected.


Based on what study?
11   MrMagic   2018 Aug 25, 7:16pm  

DASKAA says
marcus says
I'm pretty sure food has already gone up more than 6% since Trump was elected.


Based on what study?


Just because..... Trump's President... isn't that the biggest reason? Remember, he's a math teacher.
12   bob2356   2018 Aug 25, 10:08pm  

CBOEtrader says
Bob still lacking a keen sense of nuance. Go back and try to understand the differences between my scenario above, and the current environment.

Also, I've never argued for a wall, but I certainly see the potential value. The biggest issue in the wall debate is the "RACISM" propaganda from the left. I have and will continue to disagree with fake moral outrage used to manipulate the soft brain of the masses.


Theer is no nuance. Illegals should be gone. Period. They won't be gone as long as there are jobs and people can hire them cheaply with almost zero possibility of consequences.

The biggest issue with the wall is that it is pure political theater by people who know damn well it won't work telling their base it will work. Smugglers aren't all stupid. They will just switch to bringing illegals across in trucks,. The way almost all the drugs come in now. Six million trucks a year come across the border. Do you really think the customs service is going to unload them all to search for illegals in hidden compartments.

RACISM and fake moral outrage is just a strawman you made up. Google arguments against trump wall and feel free to post all the articles that cite RACISM. There really aren't any. The outrage is annoy trump proposing something that isn't going to work.

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