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A phone which does not spy on you


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2018 Aug 19, 10:49am   31,903 views  242 comments

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https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/

Librem 5, the phone that focuses on security by design and privacy protection by default. Running Free/Libre and Open Source software and a GNU+Linux Operating System designed to create an open development utopia, rather than the walled gardens from all other phone providers.

A fully standards-based freedom-oriented system, based on Debian and many other upstream projects, has never been done before–we will be the first to seriously attempt this.

The Librem 5 phone will be the world’s first ever IP-native mobile handset, using end-to-end encrypted decentralized communication.


Many others have attempted Open Source phones and failed. I hope this one works, especially since I just discovered that you cannot turn off wifi or Bluetooth on Android or iOS. "Turning it off" in the controls on those phones merely disconnects you from current access points, but leaves them on so they can spy on your location with great precision and open you up to various exploits:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/21/ios-11-apple-toggling-wifi-bluetooth-control-centre-doesnt-turn-them-off

On iOS 11, pressing the wifi toggle immediately disconnects the iPhone or iPad from any wifi networks, but leaves the wireless radio available for use by location services, scanning for the names of nearby wifi access points. The Bluetooth toggle operates in a similar fashion. ...

A similar thing happens in Android smartphones, which use wifi as part of their location services. Switching wifi off prevents it from connecting to wifi access points, but allows it to continue periodically scanning for access point names to help pinpoint its location.




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184   stereotomy   2023 Sep 1, 8:24am  

It's not so much that Siri or Alexa is listening for your drug transactions, it's that it's recording information that can be used to construct a LLM simulacrum that can have you say anything "they" want you to say - a deep fake for every man, woman, and child in this world.
185   just_passing_through   2023 Sep 1, 8:31am  

Patrick says

Damn, the second video on this page is really good.


Overweight belligerent redneck on the train drinking a Trump beer sort of ruined it for me.
186   NuttBoxer   2023 Sep 1, 9:49am  

stereotomy says

It's not so much that Siri or Alexa is listening for your drug transactions, it's that it's recording information that can be used to construct a LLM simulacrum that can have you say anything "they" want you to say - a deep fake for every man, woman, and child in this world.


I've noticed a lot of customer service systems ask for voice prompts now days. For the exact reason you stated, I only use the keypad.
187   Patrick   2023 Sep 1, 9:55am  

just_passing_through says

Overweight belligerent redneck on the train drinking a Trump beer sort of ruined it for me.


True, that artist has a severe case of TDS. I've seen it in his other drawings. No thought as to why people would vote for Trump, just raw hate for those he sees as beneath himself.
189   richwicks   2023 Oct 3, 4:04am  

Patrick says






I bet you $100 you're incorrect about this, and I will come to your place to deliver the bill, along with a pizza, if you're correct.
190   Misc   2023 Oct 3, 4:22am  

Hopefully the "Pizza" isn't code for anything because Patrick's got this one right.
191   NuttBoxer   2023 Oct 3, 8:07am  

They test every year, it's plastered all over government sites. If you want info on why to avoid, see my thread.
192   richwicks   2023 Oct 4, 5:29am  

Misc says


Hopefully the "Pizza" isn't code for anything because Patrick's got this one right.


@Misc I didn't get any notification.

I didn't want to spend $100 and have to hand deliver a pizza anyhow but I would have.

And no, I despise pedophiles, you cannot imagine how much I hate them. Victimizing a child, it's as bad as murder. I oppose my government in part because they allowed this with Epstein. Our government is invalid because it's immoral. We should overthrow it.

Anyhow I actually like pizza, and there's a decent place near Patrick. It's kind of a heart attack in a box, but once a month, that's fine.
193   richwicks   2023 Oct 4, 5:35am  

NuttBoxer says

They test every year, it's plastered all over government sites. If you want info on why to avoid, see my thread.


@NuttBoxer - I received no notification.
194   Misc   2023 Oct 4, 6:08am  

@richwicks The test is suppose to happen at about 2:20pm East Coast time.

Glad to hear the place has good food Patrick will enjoy it.
195   NuttBoxer   2023 Oct 4, 6:27am  

If he'd gone to the government sites, or read my thread he would have known that. Just another patnetter who wants to share opinions, but not take the time to do any research.
196   stereotomy   2023 Oct 4, 2:45pm  

It pinged - I shut the phone off for 30 mins.

They just proved they can kill any one of us with 5G directed drones.
197   HeadSet   2023 Oct 4, 4:12pm  

Misc says


richwicks The test is suppose to happen at about 2:20pm East Coast time.

Glad to hear the place has good food Patrick will enjoy it.

It happened at 2:18 PM Eastern. Looks like Patrick needs to decide on some pizza toppings.
198   Patrick   2023 Oct 4, 4:48pm  

True, it looks like it did happen. I leave my phone off most of the time, but lots of people are reporting getting this.
199   richwicks   2023 Oct 4, 5:22pm  

YEP - I owe @Patrick a $100.

If you want to collect..

Makes one wonder what use it is when it didn't work in Maui...
200   HeadSet   2023 Oct 4, 5:41pm  

Patrick says

True, it looks like it did happen. I leave my phone off most of the time, but lots of people are reporting getting this.



201   richwicks   2023 Oct 4, 5:45pm  

HeadSet says

Patrick says


True, it looks like it did happen. I leave my phone off most of the time, but lots of people are reporting getting this.






Well, he's near an Amici's, although I won't tell you which one:

https://www.amicis.com/

Pick out a pie.
202   Onvacation   2023 Oct 4, 6:06pm  

I was in a room full of people when the alert went off this morning. Twenty plus cellphone alarms went off at the same time, including mine.

I forgot to turn off my phone!

I looked around checking for sudden deaths but everyone survived the incident.

Most phones are made in china. It wouldn't be too hard to rig them into little shrapnel bombs...
203   Patrick   2023 Oct 4, 11:39pm  

@richwicks I never made the bet, but pizza for lunch sounds good. Maybe some others want to show up and make it a mini-meetup.
204   richwicks   2023 Oct 5, 1:24am  

@Patrick, I'll do it and I'll buy. I think the park is very nearby. Perhaps that's the best place to meet up.
205   Patrick   2023 Oct 5, 6:57am  

@Undoctored Want some pizza?

Any other readers near Palo Alto?
208   NuttBoxer   2023 Oct 5, 7:20am  

Some people reported they got the alert after turning their phone back on. Others said the phone was turned on for them. We took our Roku off the internet(unplugged cable), and put our cellphones in a closet. No alerts, were not turned on for us.
209   Misc   2023 Oct 5, 8:23am  

Do you know how many convicts in jail were outed for having cell phones they weren't supposed to have?
210   ForcedTQ   2023 Oct 5, 11:37am  

No alert for me, I was on a Zoom meeting at the time too.
211   richwicks   2023 Oct 5, 11:55am  

Misc says


Do you know how many convicts in jail were outed for having cell phones they weren't supposed to have?


You have any idea how stupid that this is it's even possible?

The cell tower knows where you are.

The phone companies know these phones are being used in prison.
212   Patrick   2023 Oct 5, 1:18pm  

https://slaynews.com/news/russia-prepares-for-wwiii-as-public-receives-nuke-incoming-warnings/


The Russian public has been taking part in nuclear attack drills across the country as the nation appears to be preparing for World War III.

On Tuesday and Wednesday, sirens blared out across Russia as part of a bone-chilling drill for an incoming nuclear attack.


Maybe the US is planning for, or even hoping for a nuclear attack, and that was the purpose behind the cellphone test.

Given that the US government is directly responsible for ~17 million deaths from the toxxine, it seems plausible that they would have no problem killing millions of Americans with a provoked nuclear attack from Russia, just to declare martial law so that they have a reason not to let Trump win for a third time. They know that things will go badly for them if they ever lose their grip on the DOJ, the CIA, and the corporate media.
213   Robber Baron Elite Scum   2023 Oct 5, 6:15pm  

Sounds like the perfect phone for drug dealers, organized crime figures and criminals.

Also great for corrupt politicians.
216   NuttBoxer   2023 Oct 19, 7:54am  

Patrick says

that was the purpose behind the cellphone test.


The test is conducted yearly.
219   Patrick   2023 Nov 25, 8:13pm  

https://justthenews.com/government/millions-americans-are-having-their-phone-calls-listened-secret-surveillance-program


Millions of Americans who use AT&T’s phone network are having their phone calls monitored by a surveillance program called Data Analytical Services (DAS), which has had coordination with federal and local law enforcement agencies.

According to a document obtained by WIRED, DAS has been secretly collecting and analyzing over one trillion domestic phone records within the U.S. each year.

The program used to be called Hemisphere and is run by AT&T in coordination with different agencies, according to Fox News.

The program uses a technique known as chain analysis. This goes after those who have been in direct contact with a criminal suspect, and anyone else who has had communications with them.

This program also allows law enforcement agencies to receive any data access in the records of any calls that use AT&T’s infrastructure. This information can include phone numbers, locations, dates and even the addresses of those subscribed.

According to Fox, this surveillance raises serious concerns about privacy rights and the 14th Amendment.

This program has reportedly been operating for more than ten years and has received millions of dollars from the White House’s Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP) under a program called HIDTA, or "high-intensity drug trafficking area."

AT&T has refused to comment specifically on the program, only responding that it is required by law to comply with a lawful subpoena, according to the outlet.

Oregon Democratic Sen. Ron Wyden sent a letter last week to Attorney General Merrick Garland, urging him to investigate and review the program. “I have serious concerns about the legality of this surveillance program, and the materials provided by the DOJ contain troubling information that would justifiably outrage many Americans and other members of Congress,” Wyden wrote.
220   Patrick   2023 Nov 27, 11:13am  





Cars these days can report your location and be remotely disabled.
223   NuttBoxer   2023 Dec 6, 12:12pm  

Patrick says

Oregon Democratic Sen. Ron Wyden


Been consistently raising the alarm on these intrusions since 9/11.

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