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richwicks
2023 Jul 22, 11:17pm
richwicks
2023 Jul 22, 11:17pm
NuttBoxer says
It points in the direction where nobody can walk in front of.
It's a simple rule, you never point a gun at anything you're not willing to put a bullet in, and you always assume it's loaded regardless of whether you've cleared it or not, and it can fire at any moment for no reason at all.
You follow those rules, and you won't be an Alec Baldwin and even if you follow all those rules, assume you're going to make a mistake at some point.
Be paranoid, always assume you've made a mistake. When you're working with dangerous shit, have OCD. Just clear your gun, and didn't think you did it properly? Clear it again. One mistake out of 1000's of repetitions, and you can kill somebody.
In the picture, the asshole is on the wrong side of the table, and it shouldn't be possible to be in front of the table. It might seem overly cautious, until you put a bullet into somebody by accident. Gun safety is very important, and you need to take it seriously no matter how confident you are that "nothing can go wrong". I don't care how certain you are that a gun is unloaded, don't point it at somebody as a "joke".
"A gun is always loaded", you need that minimal mindset. Unless you're trying to shoot somebody, then you might want to think the gun is always empty, conserve bullets. I've not been in that situation.
I used to hang glide. One thing that was drilled into me was a "hang check". This is to verify you've hooked into the glider. I got into the habit, any doubt, I checked, and I did that 100's of times, until one time, I found out I was NOT hooked in. Certain I was, but I wasn't. I was just on a training hill, at worst I would have been injured, little chance of being killed, but that scared me. I've gone off mountains, if it was a mountain then, I would have been killed. Completely certain I was hooked in. More than 1/2 the deaths in hang gliding is carelessness. The other half is panic in a collapse of the glider, and flying in severe weather where you asphyxiate being pulled up way too high. See an anvil cloud? Go home.
People get killed by guns by accident in the same way. You might handle the thing a hundred times without a problem, but eventually, you're going to make a mistake, and when you do, be damned certain nobody will be hurt. You will eventually make a mistake.
From that angle how do we know for sure it's not pointing past him? and what is in the room, which direction can it point safely?
It points in the direction where nobody can walk in front of.
It's a simple rule, you never point a gun at anything you're not willing to put a bullet in, and you always assume it's loaded regardless of whether you've cleared it or not, and it can fire at any moment for no reason at all.
You follow those rules, and you won't be an Alec Baldwin and even if you follow all those rules, assume you're going to make a mistake at some point.
Be paranoid, always assume you've made a mistake. When you're working with dangerous shit, have OCD. Just clear your gun, and didn't think you did it properly? Clear it again. One mistake out of 1000's of repetitions, and you can kill somebody.
In the picture, the asshole is on the wrong side of the table, and it shouldn't be possible to be in front of the table. It might seem overly cautious, until you put a bullet into somebody by accident. Gun safety is very important, and you need to take it seriously no matter how confident you are that "nothing can go wrong". I don't care how certain you are that a gun is unloaded, don't point it at somebody as a "joke".
"A gun is always loaded", you need that minimal mindset. Unless you're trying to shoot somebody, then you might want to think the gun is always empty, conserve bullets. I've not been in that situation.
I used to hang glide. One thing that was drilled into me was a "hang check". This is to verify you've hooked into the glider. I got into the habit, any doubt, I checked, and I did that 100's of times, until one time, I found out I was NOT hooked in. Certain I was, but I wasn't. I was just on a training hill, at worst I would have been injured, little chance of being killed, but that scared me. I've gone off mountains, if it was a mountain then, I would have been killed. Completely certain I was hooked in. More than 1/2 the deaths in hang gliding is carelessness. The other half is panic in a collapse of the glider, and flying in severe weather where you asphyxiate being pulled up way too high. See an anvil cloud? Go home.
People get killed by guns by accident in the same way. You might handle the thing a hundred times without a problem, but eventually, you're going to make a mistake, and when you do, be damned certain nobody will be hurt. You will eventually make a mistake.
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RWSGFY
2023 Jul 23, 10:43am
RWSGFY
2023 Jul 23, 10:43am
NuttBoxer says
Moving the goaloposts, are we? No, not "just two shooting", rather just two examples. Which is 2x as much as needed to
disprove a point. Add to this much smaller population overall
and much sketchier reporting (as in less shit gets known to the world outside of the town/province/country) and the things don't look much different at all.
So two incidents, and sounds like one was technically not a "shooting spree". How many this past year? How many in the past 10 years? Now compare with the previous 200 years, or back to whenever a gun capable of firing more than one round without reload was invented.
Moving the goaloposts, are we? No, not "just two shooting", rather just two examples. Which is 2x as much as needed to
disprove a point. Add to this much smaller population overall
and much sketchier reporting (as in less shit gets known to the world outside of the town/province/country) and the things don't look much different at all.
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NuttBoxer
2023 Jul 23, 6:04pm
NuttBoxer
2023 Jul 23, 6:04pm
RWSGFY says
So you wish to disprove that shooting sprees are related to narcotics? I prefer the term narcotics, because the legality of a lab created substance has shit to do with whether it's safe to consume or not. And one example(as I mentioned other one was done with melee weapons), disproves it? Have you considered you may be getting lost in the weeds..?
Moving the goaloposts, are we? No, not "just two shooting", rather just two examples. Which is 2x as much as needed to
disprove a point.
So you wish to disprove that shooting sprees are related to narcotics? I prefer the term narcotics, because the legality of a lab created substance has shit to do with whether it's safe to consume or not. And one example(as I mentioned other one was done with melee weapons), disproves it? Have you considered you may be getting lost in the weeds..?
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NuttBoxer
2023 Aug 17, 9:12am
NuttBoxer
2023 Aug 17, 9:12am
Picked up my Robinson Armament XCR the other day. I am now prepared to defend my home, AND my country.
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Patrick
2023 Aug 25, 10:42am
Patrick
2023 Aug 25, 10:42am
The left is quite willing to fabricate evidence in their fight against 2A:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arming_America
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arming_America
Arming America: The Origins of a National Gun Culture is a discredited 2000 book by historian Michael A. Bellesiles about American gun culture, an expansion of a 1996 article he published in the Journal of American History. Bellesiles, then a professor at Emory University, used fabricated research to argue that during the early period of US history, guns were uncommon during peacetime and that a culture of gun ownership did not arise until the mid-nineteenth century.
Although the book was awarded the prestigious Bancroft Prize in 2001, it later became the first work for which the prize was rescinded, following a decision of Columbia University's Board of Trustees that Bellesiles had "violated basic norms of scholarship and the high standards expected of Bancroft Prize winners."[1]
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The_Deplorable
2023 Aug 27, 10:40am
"Biden Targets Schools: Pulls Plug On Archery & Hunting Programs" https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-targets-schools-pulls-plug-archery-hunting-programs
"Biden Targets Schools: Pulls Plug On Archery & Hunting Programs" https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-targets-schools-pulls-plug-archery-hunting-programs
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stereotomy
2023 Sep 11, 7:55pm
stereotomy
2023 Sep 11, 7:55pm
Rifles/shotguns, a reload press, and enough reloading supplies should do it for the long run, at least through the 2024 "election."
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"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Couple things to note in there:
1. The specific mention of a militia being the reason for the need to bear arms.
2. The 2nd Amendment never mentions the word gun at all.
So, what exactly is the definition of "arms"?
In 1755 Dr. Johnson’s Dictionary of the English Language was first published. It defined “arms” as “weapons of offence, or armour of defence.”
Weapons of offence would seem to include pretty much anything and everything, from knives to nuclear weapons. The US has already seen fit to ban some weapons of offence so the 2nd Amendment clearly has not been interpreted strictly as meaning that the US cannot ban all "arms". Therefore, the 2nd Amendment does not guarantee citizens the right to own whatever weapons they choose.
So it then becomes a question of which weapons should be banned, which should be strictly regulated, and which should be lightly regulated or not at all. Like anything else, we should weigh an individual's right with society's right. When looked at in that manner, it becomes very difficult to justify why fully automatic or semi automatic rifles should be allowed. What purpose do they serve an individual? And why would that purpose outweigh the extreme damage those weapons have cased society??
Patrick thinks the Chamber of Commerce is the worst organization, and he may be correct, but the NRA is not far behind.