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BlueSardine says

All's I know is that it's true.
Look it up...

BlueSardine says

Eye shapes are usually within a millimeter or two of each other.
It's the eyelid exit ports that vary wildly amoungst species...

HappyGilmore says

this comment has been jailed for incivility

It's sad that the special snowflakes on here can't take an obvious joke.

Wow, look at all the coordinated downvotes. Goran, things are going great, thanks for modding.

Patrick, thanks again for the forum.

Goran_K says

What are the complaints about the new system?

I posted an honest comment that did not attack any poster, and the poster formerly known as ironman posted this 5 minutes later.
Sniper says

YesYNot says

I posted anon for a while to contribute without all of the past baggage attached.

Yes, we noticed that along with your past baggage.

To be clear, the baggage that I was referring to is having this poster hanging about to insult me as soon as I post regardless of the content. That's not civil. Sadly, it is predictable behavior. It was bad enough when we could respond in kind. Now that there is 'moderation' it's unacceptable to me, because I'm not a masochist.

The funny thing is that I made a similar comment while not logged in, so it registered as anon. Somehow it was decided that ironman's post was fine, but this response is trolling or otherwise unworthy.

I've bailed from patrick.net, although I do check it occasionally. The move towards moderation seems to be the very antithesis of what patrick.net was founded upon.

YesYNot says

Goran_K says

What are the complaints about the new system?

I posted an honest comment that did not attack any poster, and the poster formerly known as ironman posted this 5 minutes later.
Sniper says

YesYNot says

I posted anon for a while to contribute without all of the past baggage attached.

Yes, we noticed that along with your past baggage.

To be clear, the baggage that I was referring to is having this poster hanging about to insult me as soon as I post regardless of the content. That's not civil. Sadly, it is predictable behavior. It was bad enough when we could respond in kind. Now that there is 'moderation' it's unacceptable to me, because I'm not a masochist.

The funny thing is that I made a s...

Things are much more civil now that most of the people with a brain have left, so that nobody will challenge the Trumpcuck nonsense, and only Conservative morons can insult other posters!

@Patrick is a Piece of Shit for ignoring the calls from so many of the people that posted here for so long, and instead allowing Trumpcucks and disingenuous mean spirited assholes with nothing interesting or of value to be said.

“Look at my truck!”
“Look at my bullets and guns!”

Fuck Patrick and his attempt to ruin patrick.net

Yea i know goron, uncivil. Put it in comments jail so that others cannot see the truth, you halfwit simple simon motherfucker

Sorry you feel that way errrc.

Goran_K says

Sorry you feel that way errrc.

Well you don’t have to be a piece of shit. You can change

YesYNot says

Somehow it was decided that ironman's post was fine, but this response is trolling or otherwise unworthy.

@YesYNot Sniper's response was not fine. I deleted it.

I'm going to make a special rule completely banning Sniper from using the word "you".

@patrick - still waiting on a ruling for post #40 above.

As a further example of why ad hom and uncivil are not the same if I were to post:

"people who think like that are niggers"

Clearly uncivilized but not ad-hom. Is this acceptable, yes or no?

Patrick says

I'm going to make a special rule completely banning Sniper from using the word "you".

In fact, I'm losing it again with Sniper. Just blew away every comment he made that has "you" in it:

mysql> delete from comments where comment_content like '% you %' and comment_author=128155;
Query OK, 990 rows affected (3.45 sec)

anon_d06f9 says

Clearly uncivilized but not ad-hom. Is this acceptable, yes or no?

Unpleasant, but not an attack on other users.

Patrick says

I'm going to make a special rule completely banning Sniper from using the word "you".

Yes, I actually did that:

// sniper rule
if ((context.current_user.user_id == 128155) && post_data.comment_content.match(/you/)) post_data.comment_approved = 0

Patrick says

Patrick says

I'm going to make a special rule completely banning Sniper from using the word "you".

In fact, I'm losing it again with Sniper. Just blew away every comment he made that has "you" in it:

mysql> delete from comments where comment_content like '% you %' and comment_author=128155;
Query OK, 990 rows affected (3.45 sec)

Patrick, many of us have spent a lot of time on your site over the past twelve + years. I think you can at least give us the courtesy of a response, why have you allowed CiC/Ironman/Sniper to return?

You could better use Gorons time to zap Sniper everytime he comes back to troll the forum and harass the people that post here, rather than to selectively enforce his arbitrary rules by subjective opinions that all right wing crap flys here, while anything else must be silenced.

Goran has been a good moderator.

The rule is simple and not arbitrary. Just don't deliberately personally attack the other users. Attack their points.

Patrick says

Goran has been a good moderator.

The rule is simple and not arbitrary. Just don't deliberately personally attack the other users. Attack their points.

Yea but what is and what is not civil is purely subjective. So if you are a hard right halfwit, you will devolve to your tribal instincts and protect your tribe while attacking others.

It’s no coincidence, and was predictable as hell.

“Leftism....not even once. Ever” is not a healthy mantra of a fair and objective moderator of any politics forum

Are you allowed to make your point?

Seems to me that you are.

Patrick says

Patrick says

I'm going to make a special rule completely banning Sniper from using the word "you".

In fact, I'm losing it again with Sniper. Just blew away every comment he made that has "you" in it:

mysql> delete from comments where comment_content like '% you %' and comment_author=128155;
Query OK, 990 rows affected (3.45 sec)

Rather smacks of door, horse, bolted.

Patrick says

Are you allowed to make your point?

Seems to me that you are.

what if Goron doesn't like it?

errc says

You could better use Gorons time to zap Sniper everytime he comes back to troll the forum and harass the people that post here, rather than to selectively enforce his arbitrary rules by subjective opinions that all right wing crap flys here, while anything else must be silenced.

I've zapped Sniper's comments before. I've also zapped yours.

anonymous is about as leftist as anyone gets on PatNet, I've never had to zap any of his comments yet.

Just keep it clean. Why can't you just say what you want to without bashing someone personally? That's all PatNet moderation is asking.

Goran_K says

errc says

You could better use Gorons time to zap Sniper everytime he comes back to troll the forum and harass the people that post here, rather than to selectively enforce his arbitrary rules by subjective opinions that all right wing crap flys here, while anything else must be silenced.

I've zapped Sniper's comments before. I've also zapped yours.

anonymous is about as leftist as anyone gets on PatNet, I've never had to zap any of his comments yet.

Just keep it clean. Why can't you just say what you want to without bashing someone personally? That's all PatNet moderation is asking.

Why have you never asked Sniper this same question?

errc says

Why have you never asked Sniper this same question?

I've commented on Sniper threads asking HIM and the person he was going back and forth with to "knock it off" numerous times, then have deleted comments from him and that person. I don't see everything though, just like I don't see everything you post that gets through.

If you see a comment that you think is uncivil and trolling, tag me. I'll handle it.

errc says

So answer my question for once, rather than avoiding it in your usual disingenuous Goron fashion

I'll be honest, for the stuff I've encountered personally, you've been a much bigger problem from a personal attack standpoint.

Goran_K says

errc says

So answer my question for once, rather than avoiding it in your usual disingenuous Goron fashion

I'll be honest, for the stuff I've encountered personally, you've been a much bigger problem from a personal attack standpoint.

All I’m doing is mimicking Sniper. Funny how once the Sniper is aimed at you, then you don’t like it.

So long as it’s directed at a “librul”, you’re happy to see it continue.

Very telling

And you still haven’t answered the question

Very telling

errc says

@Patrick is a Piece of Shit

errc says

Fuck Patrick

errc says

Yea i know goron, uncivil. Put it in comments jail so that others cannot see the truth, you halfwit simple simon motherfucker

errc says

Well you don’t have to be a piece of shit.

Welcome to the NEW Patrick.net

Patrick says

Just don't deliberately personally attack the other users.

Some users are more special than others.

Then toss some racism and bigotry on top.

So I'm not the only one noticing it errc.

@patrick is there a reason why the anon post favorable to Goron is posted immediately while none of mine made all morning have been allowed through? They weren't the least bit uncivil either

anon_ users should not expect much tolerance for snark, since they are in effect "hiding" and attacking users who are not hiding.

Patrick says

anon_ users should not expect much tolerance for snark, since they are in effect "hiding" and attacking users who are not hiding.

Unless that snark is directed at Hillary.. Then it's all steam ahead.

Anonymous posters are cowardly pussies who are always hiding their identities. In contrast, I am very brave, so I post with my pseudonym.

@patrick

I still dont't understand what is uncivil about this:


So answer my question for once, rather than avoiding it in your usual disingenuous Goron fashion

This is what must be censored lol

This is uncivil, being a direct attack on the character of another user:

errc says

your usual disingenuous Goron fashion

Patrick says

This is uncivil, being a direct attack on the character of another user:

errc says

your usual disingenuous Goron fashion

Even though it's 100% true?

I thought you said its always important to speak the truth? How can i reword it so that you deem it civil enough to allow it to avoid being censored?

Are you not a little curious why he's never asked the same question to Sniper?

"Just keep it clean. Why can't you just say what you want to without bashing someone personally? That's all PatNet moderation is asking."

Everyone posting here, yourself included, knows that all the incivility stems from Sniper harassing everyone who isn't a far right winger. Does it not seem a little bit strange that Goron asks this question of me when all I'm doing is mimicking Sniper, yet he's never asked the same of (Sniper)by far the most egregious of offenders (you've said so yourself)

-29 my ass. Coordinated Campaign to go into to Private Browsing and downvoting. Far more controversial threads have less votes over years.

No, Cowardly Anons should not have privileges and up/down voting should require a login of some kind.

So many Anons are alleged former posters who can't stay away, so trying to guess who the masked villain really is isn't really uncivil.

TwoScoopsMcGee says

No, Cowardly Anons should not have privileges and up/down voting should require a login of some kind.

So many Anons are alleged former posters who can't stay away, so trying to guess who the masked villain really is isn't really uncivil.

In your opinion.

However, when one is disingenuous and dishonest as all hell, and their intent is malicious, then yes it’s absolutely uncivil.

TwoScoopsMcGee says

-29 my ass

Anons only get one vote. @Patrick, do you know if these numbers are skewed as TwoScoops suggests?
Is it civil to call everyone posting as anon a cowardly villain?

errc says

TwoScoopsMcGee says

No, Cowardly Anons should not have privileges and up/down voting should require a login of some kind.

So many Anons are alleged former posters who can't stay away, so trying to guess who the masked villain really is isn't really uncivil.

In your opinion.

However, when one is disingenuous and dishonest as all hell, and their intent is malicious, then yes it’s absolutely uncivil.

Although I think this is working reasonably well, I am still in favor of either no moderation or rotating moderators, i.e. term limits.

errc says

All I’m doing is mimicking Sniper.

You are? Can you post the comments where he said this same thing and you're mimicking him:

anon_d29c1 says

errc says

@Patrick is a Piece of Shit

errc says

Fuck Patrick

errc says

Yea i know goron, uncivil. Put it in comments jail so that others cannot see the truth, you halfwit simple simon motherfucker

errc says

Well you don’t have to be a piece of shit.

errc says

in your usual disingenuous Goron fashion

Is that acceptable civility?

LOL

Boo!