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Tim Aurora says

Lot of governments interfere and ours does too

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terri_Schiavo_case

Yes - but that was out of caution of keeping someone alive. Not turning out the lights as is the case in the UK. And I believe there was also a dispute among the family members. Parents wanting to keep her alive and the husband wanting to pull the plug.

curious2 says

Many thousands in America, but medical insurance companies are hardly alone in that. Consider the hospital corporations, which kill hundreds of thousands annually,

Your example of an 83 year old man contracting sepsis in the hospital - and you think the solution is the government to take over our hospitals with all those super motivated unionized government workers? Really?

Any clue about what is going on at government run VA hospitals? Patients are dying just waiting to get to see a doctor. It's fucking 3rd world conditions and appalling that our Vets have to suffer from this level of government incompetence.

Nearly 100 patients died waiting for care from Los Angeles VA
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/los-angeles-veterans-affairs-hospital-patients-died-waiting-for-care/

socal2 says

Your example of an 83 year old man contracting sepsis in the hospital - and you think the solution is the government to take over our hospitals with all those super motivated unionized government workers? Really?

Would you please quote me instead of attempting to paraphrase? I'm not sure how to answer your questions because you seem to be interrogating an imaginary person and I'm real and have better things to do.

Also, the linked article is about millions of people, not one example. The author was motivated to write the article by the loss of his father. Medical errors are now the third leading cause of death in the USA, after heart disease and cancer. American hospitals injure 20% of patients every year, including proven serial killers committing murder with malice aforethought. America has the most uneven and unreliable system in the developed world; NHS hospitals are generally better, and Britons do live longer on average than Americans. You mentioned unions, but I'm not sure why; unions operate in both VA and private hospitals in America, and in the NHS. Perhaps your questions were about whether the British government should take over American hospitals, starting with the VA. Anyway, if you quote, I'll try to respond to clarify what I actually said.

curious2 says

Would you please quote me instead of attempting to paraphrase? I'm not sure how to answer your questions because you seem to be interrogating an imaginary person and I'm real and have better things to do.

Sorry - got distracted with you linking in the Vietnam war in this discussion. As if America was wrong to fight against Communism which was the leading ideological cause of death in the 20th Century.
http://reason.com/blog/2013/03/13/communism-killed-94m-in-20th-century

Anyway - if and when the US government can fix Medicare, Medicaid and the VA, then we can talk about trusting them with managing the healthcare for the rest of the country.

Indiana Jones says

At one year old, Arturito Estopiñan was diagnosed with a similar condition. He was the first person treated with the experimental treatment and is now six years old, becoming stronger each day.

"Arturito’s signs of progress are small. He occasionally makes noises and slightly wiggles his feet. And when his arm is gently lifted up at the elbow, his index finger and thumb faintly move."

Johns Hopkins is legit, but really, this kid is the next best thing to a barely responsive vegetable with or without meds. A stack of flesh with a beating heart in a wheelchair isn't a cure, even if it does make the parents the center of attention.

"A teacher comes to the apartment for about an hour a week. Arturito can recognize numbers and colors, and the hope is that he eventually will be able to control a computer by moving his pupils."

Yup, another Stephen Hawkins in the making. These parents are insane. It doesn't rule out that they are inflicting on the child for their own Munchausen by Proxy need for purpose, money and attention

He had no business living in an election year.