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YesYNot says

Alexander Hamilton wrote that electors had a constitutional duty to make sure “that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.”

Well boys and girls, that duty went out the window when George W. Bush was appointed the position by the Supreme Court. As shitty as Trump is, it's not like George W. was any more qualified or sane to hold the position of president.

Dan8267 says

Well boys and girls, that duty went out the window when George W. Bush

Good point. But, two wrongs don't make a right and occasionally we learn from our mistakes.

Ironman says

Trying to elect Hillary??

Hillary will not be president in any case. It would probably go to Pence or Kasich. Neither is likely, as the electors will probably not defect. I'm merely pointing out that a strict reading of the constitution might block Donald.

YesYNot says

I'm merely pointing out that a strict reading of the constitution might block Donald.

You are Liberbating again.

Go ahead & threaten 2nd Amendment lovers.Tenpoundbass says

YesYNot says

I'm merely pointing out that a strict reading of the constitution might block Donald.

You are Liberbating again.

10#bass can't read...The Constitution.

Just because the oligarch-owned MSM has decided that Trump is unqualified to do the job of President doesn't mean that he is unqualified. The problem with the term "unqualified" is who decides how and to whom the term applies! And is this special person or committee then the real elector of our President? If I was the "qualifier" person I would declare all candidates unqualified and pick myself. Then I would rule in Caligulan Splendor, exactly as the Founding Fathers intended.

Dan8267 says

Well boys and girls, that duty went out the window when George W. Bush was appointed the position by the Supreme Court. As shitty as Trump is, it's not like George W. was any more qualified or sane to hold the position of president.

But g.w.bush Made the Military Industrial Complex Great Again,MMICGA.

"The problem with the term "unqualified" is who decides how and to whom the term applies!"

Obviously the electors. That's their job.

This is seriously going to impact the 2018 election.

It's going to fail, but the voters will remember what the Libtards tried to do.

YesYNot says

There's also the bit about a foreign power gaining undue influence

What you mean like Saudi Arabia or Israel? I guess those guys who allowed that to happen were eminently qualified

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

The electors will do what they're told by Putin's bitch or Daddy Putin

Yes, he is much worse than the Saudi Royal Family. Also thought you had bit of hard on for Chinese repatriating money in California at the expense of yourself and people like yourself, and thereby blaming Indian H1-Bs for it.

HEY YOU says

But g.w.bush Made the Military Industrial Complex Great Again,MMICGA

How much did Obama downsize the military?

MMR says

What you mean like Saudi Arabia or Israel? I guess those guys who allowed that to happen were eminently qualified

They have influence for strategic reasons relating to oil production and democracy in the middle east, respectively. Israel doesn't really have all that much influence. SA has it because they have oil, and made a deal. See https://patrick.net/1300190/petrodollar-system-is-critical-to-our-high-standard-of-living

YesYNot says

But, two wrongs don't make a right and occasionally we learn from our mistakes.

Ah, but the question is, are we really learning from history and trying to avoid repeating a mistake, or are we just selectively applying a principle when its convenient.

Selective enforcement of law is the favorite tool of fascists. Make everything illegal and then let the cops decided who to arrest. This is effectively the same thing as arresting people without cause. Same applies to selective enforcement of election law.

Oh, and sometimes, two wrongs make a write. Examples:
1. It's wrong to steal, but it's more wrong to let your child die from lack of medication. So stealing medicine to save your child's life, being the far lesser of two evils, is a right.
2. It's wrong to murder, but it's more wrong to let an innocent person be murdered. So killing a hostage taker to save the life of a hostage is more right than wrong.
3. War is always wrong, but sometimes it's necessary and the only way to make something right. The American Civil War ended slavery.
4. Super delegates are wrong, but since the entire primary process is wrong, super delegates can stop greater wrongs. Although they failed to do this in the past election, which is why Trump is president.

YesYNot says

Ironman says

Trying to elect Hillary??

Hillary will not be president in any case. It would probably go to Pence or Kasich. Neither is likely, as the electors will probably not defect. I'm merely pointing out that a strict reading of the constitution might block Donald.

Piggy is too stupid to understand this. Of course Hillary won't be president regardless of what happens with the electorate. The only possibility is that the GOP will backstab Trump and appoint a different Republican, probably Pence. However, doing so would be suicide for the GOP as it would enrage all the Trump supporters.

I'm kinda hoping they will do this, but I doubt they have the balls. The resulting backlash would be immense.

YesYNot says

democracy in the middle east, respectively

You are aware that Saudi Arabia is a dictatorial monarchy? Probably not. You seem quite uninformed and rather hard to teach.

Quigley says

You are aware that Saudi Arabia is a dictatorial monarchy?

You may not know the meaning of the word respectively. Here's an example:
They [Saudi Arabia and Israel] have influence for strategic reasons relating to oil production and democracy in the middle east, respectively.
In this sentence, 'respectively' means that Saudi Arabia has importance for oil production reasons, and Israel has importance due to being a democracy. Even if you didn't know that is what the word means, you should be able to figure it out based on the context. Could you not figure it out, or are you just being a douche? Sometimes, it's hard to tell the difference.

Dan8267 says

1. It's wrong to steal, but it's more wrong to let your child die from lack of medication

Good point. Jean Valjean would agree. It proves that two wrongs can make a right. If someone calls an elector and threatens to kill the electors children if they vote for Donald, it will have direct relevance.

Dan8267 says

Selective enforcement of law is the favorite tool of fascists.

I don't know if the electors or the electorate viewed W Bush as unqualified as they view Donald. But if so, it would certainly be wrong to overturn one and not the other. The question is: should they both be blocked or both let through. There in lies the question.

Tenpoundbass says

It's going to fail, but the voters will remember what the Libtards tried to do.

You can't deal with the fact that at least 60% of the people think he's unqualified to be PResident.

You may hate everyone that has an above average IQ, but you don't need to have an above average IQ to understand this situation.

YesYNot says

Does the constitution require electors to not vote for Trump?

Yes. But they better not. TPB is promising payback for people even thinking about it.

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