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RIP turtledove


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2016 Nov 15, 2:44pm   56,222 views  248 comments

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I just heard some extremely sad news that turtledove passed away recently, quite possibly over weekend. Had been in touch with her regarding a family issue and I got an email from her husband today indicating that she had passed away before I had a chance to reply . I am not privy to any other details.

Was very thoughtful of her husband to contact me, given his level of grief and work responsibilities in light of the bad news. She was a kind generous person who asked her husband to reach out to me on deathbed to meet up and discuss our case with us.

Personally, I'm in shock, as it seems to have happened this past Saturday or Sunday.

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209   indigenous   2019 Apr 30, 8:14am  

According to users, the 45-year-old was a member of Patrick.net, a social forum where she posted under the pseudonym turtledove. In a thread posted soon after her death, one member, MMR, wrote that Eric Sills reached out to say she had died of an accident.

“I got an email from her husband today indicating that she had passed away,” the user wrote, adding that Sills said his wife suffered from “chronic migraines which kept her up.”

MMR also claimed that Eric Sills said his wife “fell down the stairs early Sunday morning,” an assertion that some found it hard to believe. In another post, MMR alleged that the mother of four had been cremated.



https://www.thedailybeast.com/eric-scott-sills-california-fertility-doctor-arrested-for-murder-of-wife-susann-stephanie-arsuaga-sills
210   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2019 Apr 30, 8:18am  

JFC, not that anyone deserves to be murdered, but damn, why TD?

I hope her kids inherited TD’s resolve and intelligence and find some way to be at peace with all that’s happened and find the right path in life.
211   WookieMan   2019 Apr 30, 8:21am  

indigenous says
According to users, the 45-year-old was a member of Patrick.net


Wowzers X10. Have fun with the traffic Patrick. Think we're gonna have some new users....

CovfefeButDeadly says
I hope her daughters inherited TD’s resolve and intelligence and find some way to be at peace with all that’s happened and find the right path in life.


THIS for sure.
212   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Apr 30, 8:22am  

This is a helluva shock.

My sympathies for the family.
213   NDrLoR   2019 Apr 30, 8:44am  

indigenous says
“fell down the stairs early Sunday morning,”
I see this a lot on Investigation Discovery cases. Such a sad and undeserving end, should have lived another 30-35 years!
214   RC2006   2019 Apr 30, 8:53am  

She was one of the coolest posters here cant believe she was murdered. I think everybody was shocked with her age and everything that she died from a fall on the stairs.
215   zzyzzx   2019 Apr 30, 9:47am  

I bet he was cheating on her.
216   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2019 Apr 30, 9:48am  

HonkpilledMaster says
This is a helluva shock.

My sympathies for the family.
217   Shaman   2019 Apr 30, 9:57am  

Looks like @wookieman was right, this was foul play. Gary territory indeed. Just because it’s a conspiracy theory doesn’t mean that it’s wrong!

Of course now I’m feeling even worse for her twins, who will be left without a parent.
218   Blue   2019 Apr 30, 10:28am  

That is quite sad and I feel very sad for her children as well. I missed this thread. I know its too late. Please accept my deepest sympathy to her and her family.
219   Rin   2019 Apr 30, 10:38am  

I think the best motive clue here is the life insurance policy.

If I recall, TD's husband had financial problems earlier due to some politics at a clinic he was at. And the article also says that they were self-employed, running a clinic, which usually has a ton of overhead including liability insurances, etc, It's not like in finance, where one's capital is simply about moving others' capital around.

All and all, if the motive is true then it's a matter of disguising a blunt instrument attack into looking like a fall, unless drugs were involved, which could possibly show up in an autopsy report.
220   Tenpoundbass   2019 Apr 30, 11:03am  

An Investigator called me last year, asking me if I have ever been to SF, or the Patnet meet up.
He had some questions because I told her that She must have a cool Husband, and because of my response upon hearing about her death.
I said because she was well liked, it came as a big shocker to everyone at Patnet.
I thought it was weird that I was getting called. I always wondered if he put them on Patnet members trail to shake the investigators off his trail.
221   RC2006   2019 Apr 30, 11:14am  

Even if you hate your wife how could you kill the mother of your children, if he did murder her for money or it was premeditated in any way he is a psycho.
222   Rin   2019 Apr 30, 11:20am  

Tenpoundbass says
I always wondered if he put them on Patnet members trail to shake the investigators off his trail.


Here's the thing, this is an anonymous forum. This isn't some "Rochester University" alumni meetup board, where ppl share a lot of personal history, even if they didn't meet up back in school. And thus, the fact that anyone, like her husband, would even think of "extra personalizing" the anonymous board as way of developing a type of personal narrative, is almost like asking to be investigated.

RC2006 says
if he did murder her for money or it was premeditated in any way he is a psycho


No, just another criminal but of a white collar background. I don't believe a true psychopath would have used PatNet to spread the news. What would have happened then is that one day in 2016, TD stops posting, and that's the last anyone hears about her, swiftly forgetting her in 6 or so months.
223   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2019 Apr 30, 11:21am  

RC2006 says
Even if you hate your wife how could you kill the mother of your children, if he did murder her for money or it was premeditated in any way he is a psycho.
Pushing someone down the stairs would be in imprecise way to murder. How do you know the person would be killed? And if not, you go to jail. Heat of the moment more likely, assuming the spouse did it. Of course she may have been killed before, and then a fall down the stairs staged. Blow to the head, maybe, but cervical dislocation, probably not.
224   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Apr 30, 11:24am  

RC2006 says
Even if you hate your wife how could you kill the mother of your children, if he did murder her for money or it was premeditated in any way he is a psycho.


Sick bastard.
225   EBGuy   2019 Apr 30, 11:33am  

Why do I have a feeling this will end up as a 48 Hours Mystery on CBS. I wonder if our fearless leader will be subpoenaed to testify to the veracity of any of her pat.net messages.
226   Rin   2019 Apr 30, 11:47am  

EBGuy says
Why do I have a feeling this will end up as a 48 Hours Mystery on CBS. I wonder if our fearless leader will be subpoenaed to testify to the veracity of any of her pat.net messages.


It might very well be there. Someday, Patrick, as a new celebrity, may find himself on TMZ.
227   Rin   2019 Apr 30, 12:04pm  

BTW, I work in finance and thus, know a bit about crooks.

The average crook is good at deflection towards narratives, others on the team, etc, etc.

A true psychopath, however, needs none of the aforementioned because for the most part, he doesn't emotionally react to anything. The fact that he says things like 'It's been done' w/o hesitation or needing to reference a case study, imparts a sense of mastery to his target audience. Usually, it takes a long time for such a person to come to justice and as we know about Angelo Mozilo, that didn't really amount to much.
228   Ceffer   2019 Apr 30, 12:13pm  

I loved the way TD tangled with Iwog and left him skinned and yelping away every time over his male dominance chauvinism issues.

Rapid cremation of an 'accident' victim is a suspicion amplifier right there. I would hope it wouldn't be true. She talked a lot about her struggles getting the business going and the risks/rewards. She handled the stresses with aplomb.
229   Rin   2019 Apr 30, 12:18pm  

Ceffer says
I loved the way TD tangled


My blasts with TD were about the notion that relationships and marriage were intrinsically useless and ripe for exploitation. The fact that she thought that hers was an example of its success has got to be the biggest irony of them all.
230   zzyzzx   2019 Apr 30, 1:18pm  

Ceffer says
Rapid cremation of an 'accident' victim is a suspicion amplifier right there.


I have also noticed this from watching various TV shows, particularly on the Justice Network. That, and usually no autopsy.
231   Y   2019 Apr 30, 2:42pm  

I can imagine the questioning...
TMZ: "Patrick, did turtledove ever post about troubles in her family, especially with her husband?"
PATRICK: "FUCK THE REALTORS! FUCKEM!!! THEY CAN GO TO FUCKIN REALTOR HELL!!! GO TO REALTOR HELL REALTORS!!! FUCK YOU REALTORS!!"

Rin says
It might very well be there. Someday, Patrick, as a new celebrity, may find himself on TMZ.
232   BayArea   2019 Apr 30, 2:44pm  

Wow, I’m eager to learn what lead to the arrest...
233   Shaman   2019 Apr 30, 3:18pm  

I’d like to be a fly on the wall when AF gets deposed.
234   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2019 Apr 30, 4:05pm  

Quigley says
I’d like to be a fly on the wall when AF gets deposed.


Ahahahaha! That would be epic!

Btw my guess is IWOG in the study with the candle stick.

What do I win?
235   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2019 Apr 30, 4:05pm  

jazz_music says
BlueSardine says
PATRICK: "FUCK THE REALTORS! FUCKEM!!! THEY CAN GO TO FUCKIN REALTOR HELL!!! GO TO REALTOR HELL REALTORS!!! FUCK YOU REALTORS!!"
AND I BELIEVE IN TRUMP NO MATTER WHAT!!


Off to the sanitarium with you!
236   indigenous   2019 Apr 30, 5:00pm  

CovfefeButDeadly says
I’d like to be a fly on the wall when AF gets deposed.


That is some funny shit
237   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2019 Apr 30, 8:05pm  

jazz_music says
AND I BELIEVE IN TRUMP NO MATTER WHAT!!


About time you confessed.
238   Patrick   2019 Apr 30, 8:38pm  

BlueSardine says
I can imagine the questioning...
TMZ: "Patrick, did turtledove ever post about troubles in her family, especially with her husband?"
PATRICK: "FUCK THE REALTORS! FUCKEM!!! THEY CAN GO TO FUCKIN REALTOR HELL!!! GO TO REALTOR HELL REALTORS!!! FUCK YOU REALTORS!!"

Rin says
It might very well be there. Someday, Patrick, as a new celebrity, may find himself on TMZ.


I love it! I still feel bad for Turtledove and her kids, but yes that's pretty much what I'd say.
239   ghgsuj   2019 Apr 30, 9:46pm  

antiforum
240   Automan Empire   2019 Apr 30, 9:53pm  

EBGuy says
a feeling this will end up as a 48 Hours Mystery on CBS


"Users on the website Philip dot biz reported that the user known as ButtonQuail complained that her husband something something..."
241   Suzeyq   2019 Oct 2, 9:10am  

Any updates as to the Doc's demise?
243   dunno   2019 Oct 3, 7:17pm  

Could this be a case of Trump Derangement Syndrome? Turtledove, to my recollection, supported Trump, often quite eloquently. She seemed to be a party of one in that support, arguing with family about it (based on posts here). Her death/probable murder occurred the weekend after Trump's election. Worth considering, IMO.
244   goofus   2019 Oct 3, 7:17pm  

Could this be a case of Trump Derangement Syndrome? Turtledove, to my recollection, supported Trump, often quite eloquently. She seemed to be a party of one in that support, arguing with family about it (based on posts here). Her death/probable murder occurred the weekend after Trump's election. Worth considering, IMO.
245   just_passing_through   2019 Oct 3, 8:04pm  

She definitely didn't marry him for his looks. What a creeper!
246   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2019 Oct 4, 9:28am  

Patrick did you try calling the police department mentioned in the article, the information you have might help them solve the case. It might clear the man or prove otherwise, but it might be helpful.
247   WookieMan   2019 Oct 4, 9:52am  

goofus says
Turtledove, to my recollection, supported Trump, often quite eloquently.


What's your old username? Kind of weird to create two accounts on the same day and comment on something that you seem interested in.... by making the death of someone previously active here political. Low class stuff man, her family has checked in on this site in the past. Hope you got your fun in for the day. Jesus.
248   NDrLoR   2019 Oct 4, 11:26am  

just_dregalicious says
What a creeper!
Yep, those crazy starring eyes.

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