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Unskew those Polls!!


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2016 Aug 9, 6:35am   4,705 views  12 comments

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http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-polls-arent-skewed-trump-really-is-losing-badly/

Oh wait, maybe we shouldn't unskew after all.

"We’ve reached that stage of the campaign. The back-to-school commercials are on the air, and the “unskewing” of polls has begun — the quadrennial exercise in which partisans simply adjust the polls to get results more to their liking, usually with a thin sheen of math-y words to make it all sound like rigorous analysis instead of magical thinking.

If any of this sounds familiar — and if I sound a little exasperated — it’s probably because we went through this four years ago. Remember UnSkewedPolls.com? (The website is defunct, but you can view an archived picture of it here.) The main contention of that site and others like it was that the polls had too many Democratic respondents in their samples. Dean Chambers, who ran the site, regularly wrote that the polls were vastly undercounting independents and should have used a higher proportion of Republicans in their samples. But in the end, the polls underestimated President Obama’s margin.

But let’s say this plainly: The polls are not “skewed.” They weren’t in 2012, and they aren’t now."

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1   Tenpoundbass   2016 Aug 9, 6:52am  

Says Nate

2   freespeechforever   2016 Aug 9, 6:59am  

The polls are genuinely misleading because this year will feature an exceptionally large, incredibly energized turnout of angry, white poles (as in pitch a tent with type) that will be akin to the 1994 Republican Revolution during the anti-Lani Guiner, backlash WAVE mid-term election under Sleazy Bill Clinton.

3   tatupu70   2016 Aug 9, 7:15am  

And you don't think Trump has energized minorities in the same fashion?

4   AllTruth   2016 Aug 9, 7:19am  

Minorities rarely vote.

They have 1/100th the enthusiasm for Hillary as they did for "Free Obamaphone & ObamaMortgage" Barack Oblama.

Hillary sucks enthusiasm out of the atmosphere.

If enthusiasm was pollution, she would receive trillions in carbon credits.

5   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2016 Aug 9, 7:50am  

AllTruth says

Hillary sucks enthusiasm out of the atmosphere.

Hillary's not the devil. She's a ... wait for it...
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she's a dementor!

6   tatupu70   2016 Aug 9, 8:09am  

Ironman says

Only an idiot like Tatty thinks that the polling today is accurate.

Actually, pretty much everyone thinks the polls are accurate.

7   tatupu70   2016 Aug 9, 9:15am  

I don't think anything needs unskewed actually. I do like that you fall for this every 4 years, however, like clockwork. Wind up CIC and watch him make the same mistakes every time.

8   HEY YOU   2016 Aug 9, 9:16am  

A great poll would ask all the dead from Bush's 9/11 & Iraq WMD LIE what is their opinion of Republicans.

9   anonymous   2016 Aug 9, 9:23am  

Imagine if the Americans that engage in wasting so much time, arguing about the accuracy of polls, arguing about how much shittier the other guys candidate is than the shitty candidate you will eventually vote for. Imagine if instead all that energy was put to productive use, rather than wasting it on such nonsense. Wow, I'm blowing my own mind with all the possibilities!

10   tatupu70   2016 Aug 9, 9:59am  

Ironman says

Just so I can try and understand how your mind processes information, how do you explain that poll (from a NBC News, a MAJOR News source) can be considered "accurate"?

Not sure what you are saying. Just because someone puts an error bar on a poll doesn't make it more accurate.

11   lostand confused   2016 Aug 9, 10:55am  

tatupu70 says

And you don't think Trump has energized minorities in the same fashion?

Yes I am a minority and he has energized me and plenty like me who don't play the victim and are successful. I take offense to the way the dems characterize minroties.

We are all not some down out of luck people who scream at whitey for discrimination. I manage a few white people-am I supposed to go and tell them that they have white privilege?

12   tatupu70   2016 Aug 9, 12:39pm  

Ironman says

You just answered my question. You're clueless..

Actually I left you behind a long time ago.

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