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Why Germany hasn't passed full Gay Marriage laws...

Dan the Pope is laughing "With you".

CaptainShuddup says

Dan the Pope is laughing "With you".

Actually, this pope isn't a bigoted asshole like you and like all previous popes. He still wears a silly hat and performs nonsensical rituals, but at least he's not a cave man like the 33% of Americans who call themselves conservatives.

I don't have a Bigtoe.

Then it's an awfully small penis.

Dan8267 says

Actually, this pope isn't a bigoted asshole like you and like all previous popes. He still wears a silly hat and performs nonsensical rituals, but at least he's not a cave man like the 33% of Americans who call themselves conservatives.

Which is why he's hated by Conservative Catholics. He's not monomaniacal about abortion 100% of the time. He actually talks about inequity, global warming, and poverty. Which makes him an anti-Pope to many:
http://theweek.com/articles/532784/republican-partys-warwith-pope-francishas-finally-started

We heard the first rumblings last fall, when the preliminary draft of a statement produced by the extraordinary Synod on the Family inspired New York Times columnist Ross Douthat to warn ominously about the possibility of a schism in the church if the Vatican loosens doctrinal strictures against divorced (and remarried) lay people receiving the sacrament of Communion.
...
On Jan. 3, Robert P. George assured readers at First Things that they could safely ignore whatever the pope might say about climate change because his arguments would be based on contestable empirical claims about which Francis possesses no special expertise. Two days later, author Maureen Mullarkey wrote a blistering blog post, also at FT, in which she went much further — to condemned the pope as “an ideologue and a meddlesome egoist” who views “man as a parasite” and “sullies his office by using demagogic formulations to bully the populace into reflexive climate action with no more substantive guide than theologized propaganda.” (FT editor R.R. Reno disowned the Mullarkey post later in the week.)

Finally, on the same day that Mullarkey’s post appeared, Catholic columnist Steve Moore denounced Francis in Forbes, calling his public policy pronouncements on economics and the environment a “complete disaster” that show that he’s “allied himself with the far left and has embraced an ideology that would make people poorer and less free.”

thunderlips11 says

Which is why he's hated by Conservative Catholics. He's not monomaniacal about abortion 100% of the time. He actually talks about inequity, global warming, and poverty. Which makes him an anti-Pope to many

Sad, but true. Religion isn't very good on morality and the whole be your brother's keeper thing.

Dan8257 says: " So anyone left on this planet must be a butt-pillaging ballsweat demon."
Fell out of my chair laughing!

Good title too.

Well, the historical point of marriage was simply to protect a pregnant woman from being abandoned by a man. The deal was "this guy is responsible for the protection and support of this woman's forthcoming children" and "this woman pledges that the children this guy is supporting are really his."

It was not so much about love, and still is not in rural traditional societies. It's economic, providing mutual benefit to the husband, wife, and children though a contractual obligation. Heck, Jewish marriage still is literally a contract which both parties sign.

So who then is protected by gay marriage?

Not that I'm opposed. One of the arguments against gays has been that they live uncommitted lifestyles. If they want to publicly proclaim their commitment (and get the tax benefits!) then more power to them. But we are fucking with some subtle social structures that brought us down to the present day, and I think religious conservatives are afraid of potential unforeseen consequences in the long term.

the historical point

Life would be considerably simpler if everything had exactly one cause and one intended effect, or "the point." In reality, many couples (including same sex couples) have been getting married and staying married for reasons that have nothing to do with forthcoming pregnancy. If preparing for pregnancy were "the point," then nobody would be allowed to get married if they can't get pregnant, and all marriages would sunset after the kids turn 18. Instead, people get married and stay married for a variety of reasons. Marriage existed for millenia before the Vatican attempted to hijack it and turn it into a religious monopoly, but at least I give credit to the Vatican for preserving some sense of history; many Baptists seem to imagine the world was created less than 10k years ago and that Adam and Eve were married by Jesus (and their kids rode around on dinosaurs as depicted in the creationist theme park). The Irish vote for marriage equality was very good news, but the Vatican ungraciously sees it only as a "defeat' because by voting contrary to Vatican instructions the Irish Catholics declared their political independence from the child molesters and laundry overseers who had been abusing the Irish for too long.

One of the arguments against gays....

It's actually an argument against men, who are statistically more likely to commit adultery than women, though both are capable of it. A British DNA study of a town found 10% of the children were not the children of their "fathers". But yes, so-called "conservatives" (not really) have tried to twist that into an argument against gays, which is a bit like saying black people shouldn't be allowed in stores because a disproportionate % might try to steal something. Actual conservatives would point to a CBO study showing marriage equality would reduce (slightly) the federal deficit and a studies showing a significant reduction in medical spending among gay men. (Contrary to common mythology, medical spending is not guaranteed always to increase. Sometimes it can be reduced, and with better health, e.g. by addressing the root causes of health problems instead of throwing money at medicating them and calling that "benefits".)

So who then is protected by gay marriage?

Many gay couples have children, the most recent numbers I saw were in the millions, and the 2010 Census reported percentages comparable to heterosexual couples, but additional protectees include the separation of church and state, and the equal protection of the laws. The separation of church and state is why the Vatican declared "defeat," i.e. the unmarried guys in dresses were accustomed to being able to dictate the laws of Ireland and now the Irish have declared independence.

I think Patrick is the only person who understands both sides of the argument.

FortWayne says

the only person who understands

The fact he said something you agree with does not make him "the only person who understands." I understand your side of the argument, and that you're wrong.

curious2 says

and all marriages would sunset after the kids turn 18.

Wait a minute! Why hasn't this genius idea ever come up for a vote?

All this drama for what - 2 percent of the population that are attracted to the same sex?

The luxury we have living in the West where this can be considered one of the most important issues facing humanity in the 21st Century!

Isn't the State's only interest in encouraging heterosexual marriage is for procreation of the species and future tax payers? If kids aren't involved, I don't need the State to certify my love for my spouse. I can make arrangements to leave my spouse with my wealth if I kick the bucket before them,

So if all things are equal in terms of wages, education and future prospects between 2 couples - does the State adopt a child to a heterosexual or gay couple?

socal2 says

All this drama for what - 2 percent of the population that are attracted to the opposite sex?

All that drama is created by conservative bigots. If our state simply treated homosexuals exactly the same as heterosexuals there would be no drama, no gay pride parades, no history of lynching gays, no history of imprisoning gays, and gay marriage would have been the law of the land since inception and no one would even be thinking of gay rights, gay marriage, or gay culture. It would be no big deal.

Conservatives are the ones who make all this drama, attention, and debate necessary. When stupid, ignorant people do stupid, ignorant things, the rest of society has to take up arms against the stupidity. I look forward to the day when equal rights for all is a reality and we can stop spending our time answering stupid objections to things like
- gays can't reproduce so why get married
- if gays can marry each other then can people marry dogs
- what about polygamy

These are the same stupid objections to interracial marriages. And they were stupid objections in the 1960s and they are stupid today. Stupidity does not have a half-life.

fuck it...the only way to deal with this is to ban sex for everybody.
from now on, if you get the urge, hop over to dans house and jerk off with the orangutan... *

Dan8267 says

socal2 says

All this drama for what - 2 percent of the population that are attracted to the opposite sex?

All that drama is created by conservative bigots. If our state simply treated homosexuals exactly the same as heterosexuals there would be no drama, no gay pride parades, no history of lynching gays, no history of imprisoning gays, and gay marriage would have been the law of the land since inception and no one would even be thinking of gay rights, gay marriage, or gay culture. It would be no big deal.

Dan8267 says

All that drama is created by conservative bigots.

Most conservatives hold the same view that Obama, Hillary and Democrats had on GAY MARRIAGE all of 2 minutes ago. So kindly fuck off on your bigotry charge cause it just makes you look screechy and dumb. Many thinking people can be tolerant of gays but also support traditional marriage without being a bigot.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/aUkuEtcqzyA

As much as Gays and Progs think they can divorce procreation from marriage - it doesn't change basic biology and millenia of civilization. That is why you can't honestly answer the question I posed earlier as to whether it is better for children to be raised by straight or gay couples if all other things are equal.

socal2 says

As much as Gays and Progs think they can divorce procreation from marriage - it doesn't change basic biology and millenia of civilization. That is why you can't honestly answer the question I posed earlier as to whether it is better for children to be raised by straight or gay couples if all other things are equal.

How about arranged marriages? That's a whole lot more traditional than "Free Choice Marriage". Other things people weren't allowed to choose:

* Mixed religious marriages
* Mixed Class Marriages

In fact, mixed religious marriages were rare until about a half-century ago, all over the Western World inc. the USA

socal2 says

Many thinking people can be tolerant of gays but also support traditional marriage without being a bigot.

No it's impossible Dan and them said so.

They don't just want Gay marriages, they want to find the most religious people to refuse to bake them a cake so they sue the living pants off of them, and make a few bucks or gain some political feathers. Gay marriage is just a vehicle to force their disfunctional dystopian view on others. Probably has more to do with daddy didn't love them, more than they really give a good honest crank what you or I think about gay marriage. I just know damned well at the end of the day, these folks don't give a crap what anyone thinks.
But they are keen on legislating what we think.

thunderlips11 says

Other things people weren't allowed to choose:

* Mixed religious marriages

* Mixed Class Marriages

In fact, mixed religious marriages were rare until about a half-century ago, all over the Western World inc. the USA

I don't think the American government ever banned mixed religious or class marriages. It would certainly be news to my mixed religious marriage. One of our parents had issues for a little while, but the State never had an issue.

And Gays were never banned from marriage. They just needed to marry someone of the opposite sex.

CaptainShuddup says

They don't just want Gay marriages, they want to find the most religious people to refuse to bake them a cake so they sue the living pants off of them, and make a few bucks or gain some political feathers.

It's worse than that. Did you hear about the Canadian jewelers who gladly made wedding rings for a lesbian couple, but still hold the "bigoted" view about traditional marriage? Now the lesbians are all angry and demanding a refund for the rings because the jewelers hold the same view Obama and Hillary had 5 minutes ago.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/jewelry-store-sign-prompts-same-sex-couple-to-ask-for-refund-1.3077192

We will be MADE to care by the Totalitarian Progs.

anonymous says

It appears that is just what happened and in doing so became the foundation of the GOP and the Religious Right...

I'd rather have some gays in the GOP than all the rapists and pedophiles that are in the Democrat party. We can throw on killers if we count Ted Kennedy!

sbh says

Not drama......consideration......equal protection consideration.

There is tons of drama by a bunch of screechy drama queens desperate for any social issue to exploit because Obama's economic policies have failed.

sbh says

So much drama about less than one thousandth of a percent of the population of a non-US country. Who's sounding screechy and dumb now? Hmm?

There are more examples than that. People are getting sued and losing their businesses in the US for holding Obama and Hillary's 2012 views on gay marriage. This is the slippery slope that you Progs said could never happen.

There is no live and let live by the gay marriage supporters these days. They are the biggest bunch of sore winners I have ever seen and are likely going to overplay their hand. They better hope they don't identify the gay or trans-gendered gene and use it to screen for abortions. You will seed the Progs turn pro-life almost over night!

In the meantime, lets get back to dealing with another one of humanity's most pressing problems in getting rid of gender assignments all together! It is too "triggering" to have sex assigned bathrooms or any kind of gender norms.

SoftShell says

fuck it...the only way to deal with this is to ban sex for everybody.

We don't all want to live like CIC.

socal2 says

Most conservatives hold the same view that Obama, Hillary and Democrats had on GAY MARRIAGE all of 2 minutes ago.

We liberals have always been more advanced than Democrats or knock-dragging conservatives.

socal2 says

So kindly fuck off on your bigotry charge cause it just makes you look screechy and dumb.

Actually, that's exactly what you conservatives look like when you demonstrate your bigotry against gays and other minorities.

The only thing truthful in your posts is that the Democrats like Hilary and Obama are bandwagon jumpers now that support for gay rights has reached critical mass. This is no surprise as it's exactly what happened with civil rights for all races back in the 1960s.

However, to suggest that it's a wash because Democrats and Republicans are equally bad is utter bullshit. Republicans have outright opposed any progress on any social issue. They even backtrack on their alleged support of states rights when states started recognizing same-sex marriages.

And social conservatives, regardless of whether or not they are Republicans or vote, are simply moronic bigots as science has shown many times. Please feel free to challenge me on that. I love reposting all the evidence.

For the past 400 years, social conservatives have been on the wrong side of history. Every generation has shown that all previous generations of social conservatives have been out right evil in their ideas, their culture, and their behavior. From slavery to segregation to genocide to suppressing the female vote to lynching blacks and gays to using child labor in dangerous factories to shooting unarmed war protesters to rigging elections to gerrymandering voting districts to Jim Crow laws to starting wars on false pretenses to sabotaging the economy to revealing our undercover CIA agents and risking America getting nuked to performing lethal medical experiments on innocent civilians, conservatives have done it all.

If you conservatives want us to forget about all the evil you and your ancestors have done for the past 400 years, you need to stop doing that evil. In other words, you need to stop being conservatives. Until then, you get no respect and we liberals will point out your moral failings. You don't like history, stop repeating it.

anonymous says

socal2 says

"And Gays were never banned from marriage. They just needed to marry someone of the opposite sex.?"

It appears that is just what happened and in doing so became the foundation of the GOP and the Religious Right...

I've been looking at numbers to evaluate Dan's off-hand remark years ago that closet cases are half the GOP, and I think if you include their scared wives it's about right. In the 2014 midterm election, a total of around 80 million Americans voted, around half for the GOP, so that's a total of around 40 million GOP votes. Half the GOP vote total would be around 20 million voters, which is less than 10% of the total adult population. If you divide that equally into closet cases and scared wives, that's half the party. On PatNet, Forthood actually commented that he had needed government to tell him whether to choose a female spouse instead of a male, and he comments endlessly about his fear that his children will turn gay if they see even one gay couple because "monkey see = monkey do." (He knows the example of his own miserable marriage won't inspire them, and he dreads the day when they catch him at a truck stop toilet. I wonder if he would let them watch a documentary about coal miners, or anything on the evening "news".) Meanwhile, total voter turnout was less than 40%, because the Democrats campaigned on Obamneycare, which most Americans oppose, and the GOP campaigned on its Biblical closet case platform.

With so many newly minted multi-billionaires in search of ever greater trophies, I would really like to see a well funded independent party. Charles Koch ran against Ronald Reagan in 1980, and Ross Perot ran against Bill Clinton in 1992 and 1996, but neither spent enough to compete with the major parties. If Citizens United tempts somebody to campaign personally or finance an electable candidate, some good might yet come of it.

socal2 says

As much as Gays and Progs think they can divorce procreation from marriage - it doesn't change basic biology and millenia of civilization.

The secular institute of marriage is not about procreation, dumb ass. Nor is it about millennia of history. If it were,

Marriage under American law is a legal arrangement that all of the following groups have the right to.
1. Infertile couples.
2. Elderly couples in which the woman is menopausal.
3. Young couples who do not ever want to have a child.

Same-sex marriages are no different. In fact, a gay couple can conceive children. Lesbians can use in vitro fertilization‎. Gay men can use surrogate mothers. In the not-so-distant future, it will be easy to combing the DNA of two eggs or two sperm so that both members of the same-sex couple can be biological parents. So your reproduction argument is utter bullshit and thinly veils your bigotry.

Only a conservative would say something so unbelievably stupid and contrary to so much of everyday life as "unless you can reproduce with your partner, you shouldn't have the right to marry him or her". What a fucking stupid statement!

And why should taxation, survivor benefits, health care, an tens of thousands of other rights be tied to the genders of a couple?

The bottom line is that any opposition to same-sex marriage is opposition to the 14th Amendment, and you have to be an Unamerican scumbag to oppose the 14th Amendment.

Dan8267 says

Same-sex marriages are no different. In fact, a gay couple can conceive children. Lesbians can use in vitro fertilization‎. Gay men can use surrogate mothers. In the not-so-distant future, it will be easy to combing the DNA of two eggs or two sperm so that both members of the same-sex couple can be biological parents. So your reproduction argument is utter bullshit and thinly veils your bigotry.

Just because you can do something, doesn't mean it is preferable. Like I keep asking and you are too chicken to answer, should the State adopt children to a gay or straight couple if all things are equal between the two couples?

Wasn't long ago when Progs were saying that "one loving mother with State assistance" is good enough to raise children without a father. Now look at the dramatic increase in income inequality and destruction of the African American family with all these single mothers living on welfare and a life of poverty with no fathers around.

Nice job Progs! Let's keep tinkering with the very foundation of civilization, pretending there are no physical and psychological differences between the sexes and see how much more we can fuck things up and blame it on evil Corporations!

CaptainShuddup says

socal2 says

Many thinking people can be tolerant of gays but also support traditional marriage without being a bigot.

No it's impossible Dan and them said so.

That's right because it's exactly like saying, "many thinking people can be tolerant of African Americans but still support segregation and bans on interracial marriages".

CaptainShuddup says

They don't just want Gay marriages, they want to find the most religious people to refuse to bake them a cake so they sue the living pants off of them, and make a few bucks or gain some political feathers.

If you have a business license and have a storefront in a commercial zoned area, your business does not get to discriminate against customers because of bigotry. There is no difference between a business that refuses to service gay people and one that refuses to service blacks. And it's been long established that you can't do that.

Land is ultimately community property. There is limited spaces for businesses. Any storefront or bar that takes up space in a community, by necessity, crowds out competitors. Furthermore, the competitive nature of business also crowds out alternatives. For these reasons, it was made illegal for a bar, bakery, or other business to refuse to give service to any minority (women, blacks, the Irish, Jews, or gays).

Are you conservatives actually arguing that businesses that require business licenses to operating in a city or town should be allowed to discriminate against any group they want to? Should they be allowed to say "No JEWS or NIGGERS allowed"? You are either arguing that or your being a hypocrite for not opposing the same bigotry against gays.

CaptainShuddup says

Probably has more to do with daddy didn't love them, more than they really give a good honest crank what you or I think about gay marriage.

Sounds like your projecting.

You want to know why we liberals are so adamant about accepting systemic state discrimination against gays? It's quite simple. We are true Americans who believe in the principles are nation was allegedly founded upon. The principle that all persons are created equal with certain inalienable rights including the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Just because you conservative scum do not believe in American principles, doesn't mean that the rest of us don't.

I don't need to have a vested interest in any group to want the people in that group to have equality under law. Any true American believes in complete and absolute equality under law. It's the single most defining characteristic of our society. All of American history has been a series of reforms that did away with inequality and privileges under law. And if conservatives were even slightly patriotic, in the truest sense of the word, they would be rallying along side liberals for equality for all.

socal2 says

I'd rather have some gays in the GOP than all the rapists and pedophiles that are in the Democrat party. We can throw on killers if we count Ted Kennedy!

No, you are again thinking of Republicans and conservatives. [And pre-Southern-Strategy Dixicrates are conservative Republicans.]

Take for example, Strom Thurmond, the posterboy for conservatism, the guy who filibustered the Civil Rights Act. He's a known pedophile who raped a 15-year-old girl. Are you going to condone that?

In fact, conservatives have a very long history of rape and pedophilia. How many of those are you going to defend? And that list doesn't include the 300 years of raping child slaves that conservatives committed.

As for murder, Nixon and Bush come to mind as the biggest mass murderers in American history.

List of Republican Child Rapists, Adulterers, and Sex Offenders

1. Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd was arrested on suspicion of soliciting sex with an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
2. Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
3. Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.
4. Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.
5. Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.
6. Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
7. Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.
8. Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
9. Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
10. Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.
11. Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
12. Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.
13. Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
14. Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
15. Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
16. Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
17. Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
18. Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was charged with molesting his 9-year old step-daughter after including her in an anti-Gore television commercial.
19. Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
20. Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
21. Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
22. Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
23. Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
24. Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
25. Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
26. Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
27. Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline was placed under house arrest for child molestation and possession of child pornography.
28. Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
29. Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
30. Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
31. Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
32. Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
33. Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
34. Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
35. Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
36. Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
37. Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
38. Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
39. Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.
40. Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
41. Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
42. Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
43. Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
44. Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
45. Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
46. Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
47. Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
48. Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
49. Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
50. Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
51. Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.
52. Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into providing information about the anti-American insurgency.
53. Republican serial killer Ted Bundy was hired by the Republican Party
54. Republican activist Matthew Glavin, who preached family values, was caught masturbating in public and fondling an undercover park ranger
55. Republican Party Chairman Sam Walls, who is married, was urged to drop his candidacy for Congress when it was found he likes to dress up in women's clothing
56. Republican Congressman Edward Schrock resigned from Congress after he was caught searching for sex on a gay telephone service
57. Republican Mayor Jim West Republican voter Timothy McVeigh bombed Oklahoma City championed an anti-gay agenda, but was later found to be gay himself
58. Republican preacher Jimmy Swaggart preached fidelity, but cheated on his wife with a prostitute
59. Republican Congressman Bob Livingston was about to vote for impeaching President Clinton for sexual improprieties until it was disclosed he was an adulterer
60. Republican Congressman Henry Hyde denounced President Clinton's extramarital affair, but was later found to be an adulterer himself
61. Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
62. Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren,
63. has told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
64. Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
65. Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
66. Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
67. Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
68. Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
69. Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
70. Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girl.
71. Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
72. Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
73. Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
74. Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
75. Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
76. Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
77. Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
78. Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
79. Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
80. Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
81. Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
82. Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
83. Republican governor Arnold Schwarzenegger allegedly had sex with a 16 year old girl when he was 28.
84. Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
85. Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
86. Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
87. Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
88. Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
89. Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
90. Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
91. Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
92. Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
93. Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
94. Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
95. Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
96. Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.
97. Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
98. Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
99. Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
100. Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
101. Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
102. Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
103. Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
104. Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
105. Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
106. Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
107. Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
108. Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
109. Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
110. Republican Mayor John Gosek, 58, of 275 West 7th Street, Oswego, was arrested for the federal offense of "using a facility in inte-state commerce (a telephone) to knowingly attempt to persuade, induce, entice, and coerce an individual under the age of 18 years to engage in sexual activity for which he could be charged with criminal offenses, that is, rape in the third degree and criminal sexual act in the third degree" in violation of the New York State Penal Code.
111. Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
112. Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
113. Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
114. Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
115. Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
116. Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges.
117. Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
118. Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
119. Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a minor working as a congressional page.
120. Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
121. Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
122. Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with a juvenile and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
123. Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks, an advisor to a California assemblyman, was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
124. Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
125. Republican preacher Stephen White was arrested after allegedly offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
126. Republican talk show host Jon Matthews of Houston was indicted for indecency with a child, including exposing his genitals to a girl under the age of 17.
127. Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling confessed to molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
128. Republican Party leader Paul Ingram of Thurston County, Washington, pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
129. Republican St. Louis Election Board official Kevin Coan was arrested and charged with trying to buy sex from a 14-year-old girl whom he met on the Internet.
130. Republican politician Andrew Buhr, former committeeman for Hadley Township Missouri, was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
131. Republican politician Keith Westmoreland, a Tennessee state representative, was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to minors under 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
132. Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15 year old girl.
133. Republican legislator, Richard Gardner, a Nevada state representative, admitted to molesting his two daughters.
134. Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
135. Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
136. Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
137. Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
138. Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
139. Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation. Of course it's no contest! How could he even get a fair fight against those activist judges!
140. Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor. - That's the culture of life we all know and love!
141. Defense contractor, Mitchell Wade, admitted that he paid California Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham (republican) more than $1 million in bribes in exchange for millions more in government contracts.
142. Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his 9 yr old daughter.
143. Republican Mayor Philip Giordano serving a 37-year sentence for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
144. Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge sentenced to 3 years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl. I'm sure he had a good explanation.
145. Republican racist pedophile and esteemed US Senator Strom Thurmond fathered a chiled with a 15-year old black girl.
146. Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to sexual relations with a juvenile. Praise George!
147. Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having inappropriate relations with a 13-year-old girl.
148. Republican activist Lawrence E King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
149. Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
150. Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens found guilty of sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
151. Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
152. Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on 6counts of child sex crimes.
153. Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child. Look, he didn't actually do anything. He only TRIED! You can't fault a republican for trying!
154. Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
155. Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter. Prai$e the lord!
156. Republican governor Arnold Schwarzenegger allegedly had sex with a 16 year old girl when he was 28. I love this country!
157. Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar. Now I'm sure he can give us a good explanation for this.
158. Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped. Obviously a liberal conspiracy!
159. Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD. He was obviously trying to help this woman! Do you liberals no shame!Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography. Look! It was his own son. Geez you liberals are SICK!
160. Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media. He was trying to explain to her what NOT to do when in a difficult situation!
161. Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
162. Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl. She could have turned away.
163. Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her. Liberal jury of course.
164. Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison. Now how could anyone rape their daughter 6 times! Can you say Liberal psycologist!
165. Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl. Obviously set up by a liberal computer hacker. These hackers no NO SHAME!
166. Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
167. Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children). You see, actually he happened to be changing out of his bathing suit when these kids walked by.
168. Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.
169. Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child. He pleaded guilty only to keep his family out of the liberal media's spotlight.
170. Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl. She was eighTEEN. That's still a teenager!
171. Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters. He only had their interests in mind. Why don't you liberals see that!
172. Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl. No comment.
173. Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women. Philanthrapy at it's finest!
174. Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy. That boy was a liberal trying to corrupt his mind. He did the right thing.
175. Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison. He did the honorable thing and did his time.
176. Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000. Lies. Lies! All liberal lies!
177. Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession. Obviously set up by that liberal media!
178. Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet. Who said republicans were sexist!
179. The deputy press secretary for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security was arrested
180. Tuesday, April 04, 2006, for using the Internet to seduce what he thought was a teenage
181. girl, authorities said. Rep. Brian J. Doyle, 55, was arrested in Maryland where he lives
182. on charges of use of a computer to seduce a child and transmission of harmful material
183. to a minor. The charges were issued out of Polk County, Fla.
184. Republican anti-abortion activist Neal Horsley admitted to having sex with a mule.
185. A judge on Wednesday, 04-05-06, allowed a lawsuit to proceed against Jessica Cutler, the
186. former Senate aide who posted details of her sex life on the Internet. The case brought
187. by REPUBLICAN Sen. Mike DeWine's former counsel to the Senate Judiciary Committee,
188. Robert Steinbuch, alleges that Cutler engaged in an invasion of his privacy in 2004
189. by publishing sexually explicit facts about a relationship with Steinbuch.
190. REPUBLICAN Otis O'Neal Horsley (born 1944) is an American political figure of the far REPUBLICAN right.
191. He is the author of christiangallery.com, a website devoted to his advocacy of militant anti-abortion,
192. secessionist, and anti-gay views. Last night, May 09, 2005, anti-abortion extremist
193. Neal Horsley was a guest on The Alan Colmes Show, a FOX News radio program. The topic
194. was an interesting one - whether or not an internet service provider should allow Horsley
195. to post the names of abortion doctors on his website. Horsley does that as a way of
196. targeting them and one doctor has been killed. In the course of the interview, however,
197. Colmes asked Neal Horsley about his background, including a statement that he had admitted to
198. engaging in homosexual and bestiality sex, including having sex with a MULE!
199. Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison. If you do the crime, you do the time + 1.
200. Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter. He just wanted to keep an eye out for those girls...and his daughter. He even had pictures to prove it!
201. Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
202. Rev. C. Stephen White -- better known on Penn's campus as "Brother Stephen" -- will face
203. trial on charges of soliciting sex from a 14-year-old boy, according to the West Chester
204. District Attorney's office. At a preliminary hearing held Aug. 12, White pleaded not
205. guilty to charges of criminal solicitation, criminal attempt to lure a child into a motor
206. vehicle and corruption of minors. All charges will be held for court, according to West
207. Chester Assistant District Attorney Kimberly Callahan, who will prosecute the case.
208. White is married and has three sons and republican fundraiser in the area.
209. Republican Jack Burkmana reportedly has been caught allegedly offering to pay $1,000 for
210. sex with two homosexuals ... Republican operative Jack Burkmana former lobbyist for
211. "Family Research Council" The council and Mr. Burkmana support and donate money to the Bush
212. administration and the GOP.
213. (June 28, 2006)--A South Texas jury has found a 44-year-old REPUBLICAN political consultant guilty of
214. four counts involving the sexual molestation of children. The 44-year-old CARY LEE CRAMER was
215. convicted of one count of aggravated sexual assault of a child, two of indecency with a
216. child by contact and one of indecency with a child by exposure. Cramer, who now lives in
217. Tucson, Ariz., gained national attention during the 2000 presidential election.
218. His McAllen company created a TV ad accusing the Clinton-Gore administration of giving away
219. nuclear technology to China in exchange for campaign contributions. Cramer faces a maximum
220. of 149 years in prison for the four felony charges.
221. Republican Lou Beres denied sexual-molestation allegations when the Oregonian newspaper first reported them in October.
222. Beres acknowledged sexually touching a 16- or 17-year-old friend of his daughter in 1976 or 1977.
223. But a local Police Department report released as part of a lawsuit said Beres "readily admitted sexually touching" one girl when she was 13 or 14 years old.
224. The longtime leader of the Oregon Christian Coalition and staunch opponent of gay rights
225. admits in a newly released police report that he sexually touched three underage girls.
226. August 30, 2006 A Texas pastor accused of raping a church member after telling her she was possessed by a lesbian demon at his house last year has been indicted. Republican, Leonard Ray Owens, 63, who is free on $25,000 bail, is now awaiting trial on a charge of sexual assault, a second-degree felony punishable by two to 20 years in prison. He was arrested in November, 2005.
227. Police began investigating Owens last year after a 22-year-old woman reported that Owens raped her twice at his Fort Worth home. The woman told police that in July, several months after she began attending the Prayer House of Faith, she went to Owens' home for counseling following a miscarriage. Owens told her that a sex spirit and lesbian demon were inside her and needed to be cast out, police said. The pastor then asked her to lie on the floor and began yelling at her as if she were a demon, saying, "Loose her in the name of Jesus," according to an arrest warrant affidavit.
228. Christian bookstore owner, cop admit sex with boy
229. Pittsburgh, PA, August 30, 2006
230. A former college administrator, a former Christian bookstore owner and a former policeman admitted to sexual misconduct with a teenage boy.They were among five men arrested in March as part of an ongoing investigation of men who meet boys through Internet chat rooms, authorities said.William Gillin, 53, republican and Paul Skiles, 63, republican, both of Johnstown, pleaded guilty yesterday to corruption of minors, indecent assault and unlawful communications with minors. Mr. Gillin is the former alumni relations director at the University of Pittsburgh at Johnstown. Mr. Skiles owned the now-closed B&K Christian Bookstore in Richland Township.Some of the incidents occurred when the boy was 16, prosecutors said. He is now 17.
231. Donald Lukens, Republican Congressman, was found guilty of having sex with a minor - a girl he was accused of sleeping with since she was 13. Time Article
232. Pat McPherson, Douglas County Election Commissioner. Arrested for fondling a 17-year-old girl. Article
233. Jon Matthews, Republican talk show host in Houston, was indicted for indecency with a child, including exposing his genitals to a girl under the age of 17. Source: ABC News
234. Jeff Miller, (R-Cleveland), Senate Republican Caucus Chairman in Tennessee and the sponsor of Tennessee's Marriage Protection act, getting divorced (as of April 2005) because of an affair he was having with an office aid. Miller described the Tennessee Marriage Protection Act as a means of preserving the sanctity of marriage. He opposed an amendment, however, which stated that "Adultery is deemed to be a threat to the institution of marriage and contrary to public policy in Tennessee."
235. Jim Wesr, Spokane Mayor. Supported a bill, which failed, would have barred gays and lesbians from working in schools, day-care centers and some state agencies. Voted to bar the state from distributing pamphlets telling people how to protect themselves from AIDS. Proposed that "any touching of the sexual or other intimate parts of a person" among teens be criminalized. Had a sexual affair with an 18 year old boy.Source: Spokesman review
236. Keith Westmoreland, a Tennessee state representative (R), was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to minors under 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children). Tennesean Article
237. Stephen White, Republican preacher. Was arrested after allegedly offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him. Daily Pennsylvanian article | Daily yale News Article
238. Nicholas Morency, Republican anti-abortion activist, pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor The Dallas Morning News article.
239. Sue Myrick, Congresswoman (R-NC), describes herself as a "devout Christian." Committed adultery with a married man.
240. Bill O'Reilly Right-wing conservative talk show host on Fox News, sued for sexual harrassment by his producer.
241. Bob Packwood, Senator (R-Ore.), resigned in 1995 under a threat of public senate hearings related to 10 female ex-staffers accusing him of sexual harassment.
242. Jeffrey Patti, Republican Committee Chairman, was arrested for distributing what experts call "some of the most offensive material in the child pornography world" - a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped. Daily Record News Article
243. John Paulk, lied about prowling for gay sex while running a fundamentalist group to cure gays.
244. Brent Parker Utah State Representetive. Arrested for soliciting sex from an undercover officer posing as a male prostitute. KSL News Article |Deseret News Article
245. John Peterson, Congressman (R-Pa), accused of sexual harassment and creation of a hostile work environment by six women. Peterson has refused to admit a crime, saying only "I may have been an excessive hugger."
246. Harvey Pitt, SEC Chief under George W. Bush until he was forced to resign in 2002. Worked for New Frontier Media, a firm which distributed teen sex videos.
247. Mark Pazuhanich, Republican judge, pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation. Pocono Record article
248. George Roche III, carried on a 19 year affair with his son's wife, while serving as president of Hillsdale College, which "emphasizes the importance of the common moral truths that bind all Americans, while recognizing the importance of religion for the maintenance of a free society."
249. Beverly Russell, County Chairman of the Christian Coalition, sexually molested his step-daughter, Susan Smith, who later drowned her two children. Herald-Journal Article |Commentary on Newsweek Article
250. Jack Ryan, 2004 Republican nominee for US Senate from Illinois, pressured his wive, actress Jeri Ryan, to have sex with other men. Tricked her into visiting sex clubs, where he asked her to have sex with him while others watched.
251. Joe Scarborough, former Republican Congressman, currently a conservative talk show host. Resigned his congressional seat abruptly to spend more time with his family, amidst allegations of an affair. His intern, Lori Klausutis, was soon after found dead in his office. The medical examiner, who had his license revoked in Missouri for falsifying information in an autopsy report, and suspended in florida for six years, ruled the case an accident, after giving conflicting information about her injuries. He said he lied about them because "The last thing we wanted was 40 questions about a head injury."
252. Ed Schrock, two-term republican congressman, with a 92% approval rating from the Christian Coalition. Cosponsor of the Federal Marriage Amendment, consistently opposed gay rights. Married, with wife and kids. Withdrew his candidacy for a third term after tapes of him soliciting for gay sex were circulated.
253. Dr. Laura Schlessinger, right wing conservative radio host. Promotes family values, estranged from her mother, opposes birth control, has had her tubes tied, espouses saving oneself for marriage, admits to having had sex before she was married, opposes adultery, has committed adultery while she was married, and has slept with a married man, opposes divorce, is divorced and remarried, has posed for nude photos which are available online.
254. Arnold Schwarzenegger, Republican governor, had sex with a 16 year old when he was 28.
255. Jean Schmidt, OH-2, though not herself implicated, employed a campaign manager (Joe Braun) in her 2005 election who once wrote an article condemning gay men for running sex ad profiles, and who was then accused of running his own sex profile on Collarme, an S&M sex site. The profile called for "submissives" to wear only a collar and handcuffs and to have hot wax dripped on them. DKOS Diary
256. John Scmitz, right-wing republican congressman, who had had his committee chairship taken away from him in the California State Senate after issuing a press release attacking Jews, feminists and gays. Forced out of office in 1982 for having an adulterous affair and fathering two children out of wedlock with one of his students. He was caught because his baby was admitted to hospital for having hair tied so tightly around his penis that it was almost severed. His daughter, Mary Kay LeTourneau, was convicted of having an adulterous affair with one of her students, and giving birth to two of his children. Wikipedia article
257. Larry Jack Schwarz, Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, fired after child pornography was found in his possession. Rocky Mountain News article With his political career over, he went to work in the hard-core pornography industry for Platinum X Pictures, owned by his daughter, porn starlet Jewel De'Nyle (Stephany Schwarz). Wikipedia article
258. Jim Stelling, Seminole County Republican Party chairman who believes in "family values", as he told a judge. Filed a defamation lawsuit againt Nancy Goettman, a former county GOP executive committee member, for falsely claiming he had been married six times. Stelling has been married 5 times. Article
259. Don Sherwood, Republican member of the U.S. House of Representatives. Eventually admitted to an affar with a woman 30 years younger than him, after she accused him of physical abuse and attempting to choke her. Post-Gazette article
260. Tom Shortridge. Republican campaign consultant, was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl. LA Times article
261. Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr., Republican City Councilman, pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison. Sex Offender Registry page | Article
262. Craig J. Spence, Republican lobbyist, organized orgies with child prostitutes in the White House during the 1980s. Full page including Washington Times article Discovery Channel documentary
263. Jimmy Swaggart, televangelist, said during a sermon "I'm trying to find the correct name for it ... this utter absolute, asinine, idiotic stupidity of men marrying men. ... I've never seen a man in my life I wanted to marry. And I'm gonna be blunt and plain; if one ever looks at me like that, I'm gonna kill him and tell God he died." Had an affair with a prostitute.
264. David Swartz, Republican County Commissioner, pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison. Rocky Mountain News Article
265. Randall Terry, Right to Life activist, founder of Operation Rescue, involved in the Terri Schiavo protests. Once imprisoned for sending former President Bill Clinton an aborted fetus. His son Jamiel is gay; his daughter Tila had sex outside of marriage, became pregnant, had a miscarriage - she is no longer welcome in his home; his daughter Ebony had 2 children outside of wedlock and became Muslim. He has campaigned against infidelity and birth control, gays and unwed mothers. Terry himself was censured by his church after committing adultery.
266. Bill Thomas Republican congressman, had an affair with Deborah Steelman, a health care lobbyist who steered huge campaign gifts to Thomas' war chest.
267. Strom Thurmond, republican senator and racist, raped and impregnanted a 15-year old African American maid. (BBC Article)
268. Robin Vanderwall, Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate, director of Faith & Family Alliance, (a Christian Coalition spin off), former student of Pat Robertson's Regent Universtity, member of Ralph Reed's inner circle who funneled money to from lobbiest Jack Abromoff to Reed , convicted in Virginia for soliticing sex from a 13-year-old-boy and on four other counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet. Virginian-Pilot Article
269. J.C. Watts, Representative (R-Oklahoma), loud champion of "moral values." Has out-of-wedlock children.

Partial List of Democrat rapists, pedophiles and cheaters.

If we want to include all of the Liberal lobbyists and bundlers from Hollywood alone, the number will easily eclipse the list above.

- Anthony Weiner
- Eliot Spitzer (total hypocrite as he prosecuted others who engaged in prostitution)
- David Wu
- Kwame Fitzpatrick
- John Edwards
- Bill Clinton
- David Paterson
- Antonio Villaraigosa
- Marc Dann
- Paul Morrison
- Gary Condit
- Tim Mahoney
- Neil Goldschmidt (underage)
- Jim McGreevey
- Mel Reynolds (underage)
- Brock Adams (rape)
- Barney Frank (partner conducting gay prostitution ring in his house)
- Gary Hart
- Gerry Studs (underage dudes)
- Fred Richmond (underage dudes)
- Gavin Newsom
- Sam Adams (affair with 18 year old dude)

Dan, I think your list is a little dated. Mark Foley and his sexting of Congressional Pages, Larry Craig was arrested for Trolling (reduced to disorderly conduct) at the Airport.

Socal, 18 years is the age of majority everywhere; most of your additional Dems above engaged in standard heterosexual affairs.

Dan8267 says

As for murder, Nixon and Bush come to mind as the biggest mass murderers in American history.

Obama has Bush beat hands down. More Arabs, Christians, Yazidis and secularists have been killed in the Middle East in 6.5 years of Obama than 8 years of Bush.

EVERYONE told Obama what would happen if he pulled all troops out of Iraq. Let alone toppling Gadaffi without any plans to fill the void.

Obama knew the costs and even said in 2007 that preventing genocide is not a good enough reason to keep troops in Iraq.
http://articles.latimes.com/2007/jul/24/opinion/oe-goldberg24

I remember a lot of Kurds being massacred in the 80s, and Shi'ites in the 90s. Where was Regan, Bush, and the Republican Controlled Congress then?

thunderlips11 says

most of your additional Dems above engaged in standard heterosexual affairs.

That makes it OK then!

Republicans certainly aren't immune to sex scandals. But we don't elevate our scumbags to the highest offices of the Presidency like they did with JFK and Clinton. Shit they even ran John Edwards in 2004!

thunderlips11 says

I remember a lot of Kurds being massacred in the 80s, and Shi'ites in the 90s. Where was Regan, Bush, and the Republican Controlled Congress then?

Republicans didn't control Congress until 1994.

Besides, there were bigger concerns during the Cold War and couldn't right every wrong at once. Just like we looked past Stalin and the Communist atrocities to ally with them against the bigger perceived threat of the Nazis and Japanese during WWII.

Face it, Bush handed Obama a much more stable and hopeful Middle East than Obama is going to hand to his successor. Most of the hard work was already done. Obama just had to consolidate the gains and not fuck it up.

socal2 says

Just because you can do something, doesn't mean it is preferable.

You mean like go to war on false pretense, engage in slavery, gerrymander voting districts, cut social safety nets, pollute the Earth, go to church, and discriminate against arbitrary groups? Yes, I totally agree that just because you can do something does not mean you should. However, there is no legal reason to discriminate against same-sex marriage. None.

socal2 says

Like I keep asking and you are too chicken to answer

Honey, I'm not chicken of anything you have to say. I may be so repulsed by your writings I skim through them so that I don't throw up, but don't think for a second there is anything you impotent mind can possible think of that would even slightly challenge me. You're just too damn stupid to be a worthy opponent.

socal2 says

should the State adopt children to a gay or straight couple if all things are equal between the two couples

If all things are equal, then by definition, there is no advantage to having either couple adopt the child. But last I checked, there's no shortage of children that need adopting.

More than 250,000 children in the U.S. enter the foster care system every year. While more than half of these children will return to their parents, the remainder will stay in the system. Most of these children are living with foster families, but some also live in group facilities.

Each year more than 20,000 children age out of the foster care without being adopted. Today there are 102,000 children in foster care waiting to be adopted ranging in age from less than a year old to 21.

Now if you're asking are there any disadvantages to having two fathers (or mothers) as oppose to one parent of each gender, the answer is yes, but those disadvantages are utterly insignificant and pale in contrast to other factors. It's nice to have parents of both gender so that you potentially have a role model from each. Sons can ask their dads questions they wouldn't ask their mom, and daughters probably don't want to talk about periods with their dads. However, these challenges can be easily and trivially met by having an aunt or uncle or grandparent or even close friend who's the opposite gender of the parents. Jane can ask Aunt Rosie about periods instead of her two dads. Problem solved easily.

Now there are far more important factors that come into play with adoption. A child is way better off with wealthy parents than poorer ones. Well guess what, both gay and lesbian couples make more money than their straight counterparts. That means, on average, children are much better off with gay parents than straight one. Game, set, match, bitch.

If you honestly believed that the best interests of the child is what should determine who can adopt, then given this information, you would have to oppose straight adoption. The fact that you won't change your mind to this is indisputable proof that you are simply a hypocritical bigot who doesn't give a rat's ass about the children and is only using them as political cannon fodder.

Oh, and this data comes from Experian, one of the companies that does credit reporting. They only care about one thing: money.

Side note: I'm actually surprised that lesbian couples earn more than straight couples. I thought that women would choose to go into less paying jobs compared to men and so the wealth order would be gay male couples, straight couples, lesbian couples. But I was wrong about that. I have no idea why lesbian couples make more than straight couples. It's a surprising result and warrants further investigation.

I do have one conjecture, and it's only a conjecture. Openly gay men and lesbians, the ones that would marry and adopt, tend to be liberal and we all know that smart people tend to be liberal. Smart people also tend to earn more. Perhaps this is the correlation.

socal2 says

Wasn't long ago when Progs were saying that "one loving mother with State assistance" is good enough to raise children without a father.

That doesn't sound like the kind of statement a progressive would make. And given your inability to distinguish between progressives, liberals, leftists, socialists, communists, and witches, I sincerely doubt you are right about this.

In any case, placing foster children in the hands of gay and lesbian couples will reduce childhood poverty and the need for state assistance. So again, should the "no spending on social services" conservatives embrace gay adoption then?

socal2 says

Now look at the dramatic increase in income inequality and destruction of the African American family with all these single mothers living on welfare and a life of poverty with no fathers around.

Nice job Progs! Let's keep tinkering with the very foundation of civilization, pretending there are no physical and psychological differences between the sexes and see how much more we can fuck things up and blame it on evil Corporations!

Oh honey, the reason why so many African American families are headed by just the mother is that because of conservative's War on Drugs far too many black men are in prison. And the reason for the War on Drugs is the greed of corporations like
- big pharma who doesn't want competition from patent-free drugs
- big alcohol who doesn't want competition from other drugs
- the police unions
- the prison guard unions
- private prisons corporations

And they are all motivated by personal greed.

The Top Five Special Interest Groups Lobbying To Keep Marijuana Illegal

So yes, the blame does go to evil corporations, or more precisely, to evil fuckers who run corporations because corporations themselves can't be good or evil as they are just pieces of paper.

Keep opening your mouth, socal2. I'd love more ammunition.

socal2 says

Partial List of Democrat rapists, pedophiles and cheaters.

I see yours is way smaller than mine.

thunderlips11 says

Dan, I think your list is a little dated.

Well come on man, the list grows every day. We'd need a real time RSS feed and gigabit throughput to keep it up to date!