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Qatar and Saudi Arabia backed ISIS


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2015 Apr 18, 1:27pm   2,354 views  10 comments

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“Thank God for the Saudis and Prince Bandar,” John McCain told CNN’s Candy Crowley in January 2014. “Thank God for the Saudis and Prince Bandar, and for our Qatari friends,” the senator said once again a month later, at the Munich Security Conference.

McCain was praising Prince Bandar bin Sultan, then the head of Saudi Arabia’s intelligence services and a former ambassador to the United States, for supporting forces fighting Bashar al-Assad’s regime in Syria. McCain and Senator Lindsey Graham had previously met with Bandar to encourage the Saudis to arm Syrian rebel forces.

But shortly after McCain’s Munich comments, Saudi Arabia’s King Abdullah relieved Bandar of his Syrian covert-action portfolio, which was then transferred to Saudi Interior Minister Prince Mohammed bin Nayef. By mid-April, just two weeks after President Obama met with King Abdullah on March 28, Bandar had also been removed from his position as head of Saudi intelligence—according to official government statements, at “his own request.” Sources close to the royal court told me that, in fact, the king fired Bandar over his handling of the kingdom’s Syria policy and other simmering tensions, after initially refusing to accept Bandar’s offers to resign. (Bandar retains his title as secretary-general of the king’s National Security Council.)

The Free Syrian Army (FSA), the “moderate” armed opposition in the country, receives a lot of attention. But two of the most successful factions fighting Assad’s forces are Islamist extremist groups: Jabhat al-Nusra and the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), the latter of which is now amassing territory in Iraq and threatening to further destabilize the entire region. And that success is in part due to the support they have received from two Persian Gulf countries: Qatar and Saudi Arabia.

Qatar’s military and economic largesse has made its way to Jabhat al-Nusra, to the point that a senior Qatari official told me he can identify al-Nusra commanders by the blocks they control in various Syrian cities. But ISIS is another matter. As one senior Qatari official stated, “ISIS has been a Saudi project.”

ISIS, in fact, may have been a major part of Bandar’s covert-ops strategy in Syria. The Saudi government, for its part, has denied allegations, including claims made by Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, that it has directly supported ISIS. But there are also signs that the kingdom recently shifted its assistance—whether direct or indirect—away from extremist factions in Syria and toward more moderate opposition groups.

The United States, France, and Turkey have long sought to support the weak and disorganized FSA, and to secure commitments from Qatar and Saudi Arabia to do the same. When Mohammed bin Nayef took the Syrian file from Bandar in February, the Saudi government appeared to finally be endorsing this strategy. As The Washington Post’s David Ignatius wrote at the time, “Prince Mohammed’s new oversight role reflects the increasing concern in Saudi Arabia and other neighboring countries about al-Qaeda’s growing power within the Syrian opposition.”

The worry at the time, punctuated by a February meeting between U.S. National Security Adviser Susan Rice and the intelligence chiefs of Turkey, Qatar, Jordan, and others in the region, was that ISIS and al-Qaeda-affiliated Jabhat al-Nusra had emerged as the preeminent rebel forces in Syria. The governments who took part reportedly committed to cut off ISIS and Jabhat al-Nusra, and support the FSA instead. But while official support from Qatar and Saudi Arabia appears to have dried up, non-governmental military and financial support may still be flowing from these countries to Islamist groups.

Senior White House officials have refused to discuss the question of any particular Saudi officials aiding ISIS and have not commented on Bandar’s departure. But they have emphasized that Saudi Arabia is now both supporting moderate Syrian rebels and helping coordinate regional policies to deal with an ascendant ISIS threat.


http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/06/isis-saudi-arabia-iraq-syria-bandar/373181/

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1   bob2356   2015 Apr 18, 2:50pm  

We should have attacked saudi arabia, not iraq.

2   resistance   2015 Apr 18, 2:53pm  

bob2356 says

We should have attacked saudi arabia, not iraq.

of course, but that is the thing which must never be said in the american press.

3   justme   2015 Apr 18, 8:14pm  

Not a joke: Prince Bandar used to be called "Bandar Bush" inside the Bush dynasty. Google it.

4   justme   2015 Apr 18, 8:16pm  

So, does that mean Saudia Arabia is going to take the spot left open by Cuba on the "state sponsors of terrorism" list?

5   bob2356   2015 Apr 18, 8:37pm  


bob2356 says

We should have attacked saudi arabia, not iraq.

of course, but that is the thing which must never be said in the american press.

That's why I get very little information from american press. From fox to the gray lady the reporting is a joke. Just regurgitation of AP articles with lots of spin. AP has been on the downhill for a long time. UPI is pretty much dead since the 90's. Look for reuters byline if you want better reporting.

6   resistance   2015 Apr 18, 9:15pm  

justme says

So, does that mean Saudia Arabia is going to take the spot left open by Cuba on the "state sponsors of terrorism" list?

no, they are just trying to spread the religion of peace.

but seriously, the saudis are arguably a much stronger influence on our government than even israel is, because we make very little money from israel, maybe a little on weapons sales, but the whole US oil industry has huge financial motives to refine and sell saudi oil. hell, we are all in on it too, as long as we don't want to pay more for gas.

http://www.fillyourtankwithfreedom.com/2013/08/saudi-influence-on-us-government.html

7   Strategist   2015 Apr 18, 9:22pm  

bob2356 says

We should have attacked saudi arabia, not iraq.

We should have nuked them all.

8   Strategist   2015 Apr 18, 9:23pm  


no, they are just trying to spread the religion of peace.

I can hardly wait to join the religion of peace.

9   Patrick   2023 Oct 23, 5:53pm  

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/why-isnt-israel-more-focused-on-the


Why isn't Israel more focused on the Hamas leaders in Qatar?

Hamas committed crimes against humanity - not Jews, humanity - on Oct. 7. Why are its top officials living in luxury in Qatar's skyscrapers and villas? ...

As it prepares to invade the Gaza Strip, home to the Hamas fighters who slaughtered over 1,400 Israeli civilians, Israel seems to have forgotten its claim on Qatar, home to the men behind that slaughter.

In a conflict that is both necessary and has no good answers, focusing pressure on Qatar and attacking Hamas’s leaders there directly may be Israel’s cleanest short-term play, giving it the best hope of holding the moral high ground.


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Valid point.

The elites who are allowing or organizing these attacks and wars are the ones who must be killed.
10   richwicks   2023 Oct 23, 6:16pm  

bob2356 says

We should have attacked saudi arabia, not iraq.




@bob2356 - Why? The US did 9/11. Saudi Arabia and Israel just helped.

Our government creates the terrorists they PRETEND to fight. Don't you realize this yet? How obvious does it have to get. Why do you think the US has a good relationship with Saudi Arabia even though all the hijackers on 9/11 except for one was Saudi? ISIS was fighting against Assad in Syria, you think WE aren't funding them?

We should have overthrown this fucking government decades ago. The problem is, that people don't realize what a fucking government we have.

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