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Where to put your cash? A house or a stock - CNBC


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2014 Dec 8, 2:49am   3,359 views  10 comments

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http://www.cnbc.com/id/102249202?trknav=homestack:topnews:1

Even as the stock market soars to record highs, federal regulators are announcing new, cheaper ways for cash-strapped borrowers to buy a home. With the catastrophic housing crash of the last decade still glaring through the rear view mirror, the government is again pushing home ownership as the best way to build wealth, but is it?

"It would perhaps be smarter, if wealth accumulation is your goal, to rent and put money in the stock market, which has historically shown much higher returns than the housing market," said Nobel Prize-winning economist Robert Shiller at a Standard and Poor's conference last week.

#housing

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1   Analyzer   2014 Dec 8, 3:15am  

What investment has beat the stock market over the long run?

2   anotheraccount   2014 Dec 8, 3:31am  

Analyzer says

What investment has beat the stock market over the long run?

For most people the best thing to do is to buy a house first. Then invest.

3   Blurtman   2014 Dec 8, 3:55am  

Analyzer says

What investment has beat the stock market over the long run?

Selling bogus paper does quite well, historically. Also creating money out of thin air.

And it is probably not cash, per se, but digital credits.

4   Analyzer   2014 Dec 8, 4:35am  

Call it Crazy says

Analyzer says



What investment has beat the stock market over the long run?


a house in the SFBA?

Better than the Google IPO??

5   Strategist   2014 Dec 8, 5:43am  

Analyzer says

What investment has beat the stock market over the long run?

Nothing , unless...... you buy your own home with little down, and the payments are comparable to rent, the return on your down over 30 years will even beat the stock market.
The leverage will make all the difference.

6   mell   2014 Dec 8, 5:45am  

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1fssv7/i_am_james_altucher_founder_of_20_companies_17_of

You said you blew all your money on "expensive toys, trips, and bad ideas" What was the WORST idea?
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[–]jamesaltucher[S] 598 points 1 year ago
1) Buying a house. People always forget: a.) a house is an illiquid investment so you cant get your money back when you need it most b) there's millions of hidden costs when you buy a house c) the bank owns your house. not you. When you sell your soul to a bank, you reap what you sow. d) "choosing yourself" requires freedom. the white picket fence becomes a prison bar.

7   tatupu70   2014 Dec 8, 7:32am  

Call it Crazy says

Very few people actually factor that in to their overall house costs. They just write it off to the "feel good" factor of owning...

I see this all the time on here-how the hell do you (or anyone else on here) know what other people factor in to their purchase?

8   Strategist   2014 Dec 8, 7:39am  

Call it Crazy says

mell says

a house is an illiquid investment so you cant get your money back when you need it most

That's the part that really sucks.

It's an ATM machine. Ask anyone.

Call it Crazy says

mell says

there's millions of hidden costs when you buy a house

Very few people actually factor that in to their overall house costs. They just write it off to the "feel good" factor of owning...

Millions? Wow. Where did the zeroes come from?

Call it Crazy says

mell says

the bank owns your house. not you.

But, I'd rather have that then dealing with a landlord that owns it.

The landlord owns your ass. He can boot yours out at will.

Call it Crazy says

mell says

When you sell your soul to a bank, you reap what you sow.

When you sell your soul to a wife, you reap what you sow.... Hmmm....

That's when the house becomes hers and only hers.

Call it Crazy says

mell says

the white picket fence becomes a prison bar.

Not if you buy in the SFBA... That's money, baby!!!

If Alcatraz changed its zoning to residential, the billionaires would not want to live anywhere else.

9   tatupu70   2014 Dec 8, 9:07am  

Call it Crazy says

If you were aware, you would see it in their posts when they JUST compare their rent payment to the mortgage payment but don't consider any other costs of "ownership" and think they're doing an "apples to apples" comparison just to the payments!

It's a rough guide, 1st approximation. They also don't list property tax, income tax benefits, future rent increases, etc. Doesn't mean they don't factor it in....

10   bob2356   2014 Dec 8, 1:42pm  

sbh says

But you live in New Jersey, so it's hard to say how that differs from living in a landfill.

There are parts of NJ that aren't a landfill? Say it ain;t so.

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