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Rin's corroboration with a female ex-classmate


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2014 Sep 16, 3:24am   56,027 views  218 comments

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I had a chat with an old acquaintance from high school. She was one of the few girls who was in the advanced chemistry section and did extremely well on the Olympiads. Unlike her female counterpart in that course, who'd later become a snotty premed at Columbia, she was down to earth and basically, a nice person, and rather attractive. She'd gone onto college (not Ivy league), dated an engineering type, and they'd gotten married upon graduation. A decade and a half later, they're still together and quite happy.

I'd asked her if she advocates this whole settling down and relationship thing to others. Her response was basically *no* and that's because she'd met her current husband in the flow of their lives. She wasn't on the *hunt* (as her gal pals put it) and she'd met someone organically, without a bunch of miscues and half-truths. They were first friends; then they dated, and afterwards, decided that they'd spend their lives together. It was always a clear channel of communication. The ppl she'd met, after college and especially in the workforce, were not all that genuine and she could tell that ppl more or less, lied to each other, more often than not. If she weren't already settled with the right guy by then, she may have avoided dating altogether, just to keep away from the games. Today, even though she's got a few acquaintances who're still available, she wouldn't recommend any of them for me to date, because essentially, they'd dumped the "nice engineer", earlier on in life, and were more or less, trying to salvage their mismanaged life situations but still dating the bad guys or the ones who can't commit, good or bad.

We also had a lengthy discussion on Turtledove and defending blood relatives over other relationships. She's half Irish-American and said that the fact that the prominent Bulger family didn't formally disown mobster/mass murderer Whitey Bulger, not only casted doubt about their own complicity, since it was already rumored that Bill Bulger (former president of UMass and the state legislature), had helped Whitey flee from the FBI in Boston, but it also reflected poorly on Irish-Americans in general. Sure, the ethnic stereotypes about drunken brawlers had ended during her dad's generation, however, what remained was this notion of clannish tribalism where it's ok to secretly give money to the IRA, to kill/maim innocent English ppl. Thus, she despises members of her dad's ethnicity who'd supported the IRA and at the same time, doesn't like the glib notion that it's ok to hurt an Englishman, Russian, German, Asian but don't mess with the Irish. In her opinion, those A-holes should move back to Ireland and hand over their American passports.

Now, do I regret not having pursued this person back in HS? My only answer to that is that one can't sit around and dream about inventing a time machine. We live in the present and move into the future. With that said, ok, perhaps I could have pursued her back then but you know what, I was dealing with a lot of stuff at home. Remember my sister? One of the reasons why my friend is still my friend is that I didn't bring her into a nuclease where my sister could have sabotaged our friendship. Trust me on this one, no one from the sis' graduating class speaks to her today. She driven 'em all away. Ok, should I have then pursued her during college? Well, our schools were many hours apart. It was destined that she'd meet someone on her campus and myself, on my campus. So there you have it; one guy won the coin toss and other guy didn't.

Am a currently looking for a woman, with the above personality? And once again, I believe that that's living life, looking at a rear view mirror. I've moved on. Now, why can't members of mainstream society accept this?

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180   Rin   2014 Sep 22, 2:38am  

Peter P says

People need to get real. Exploitation, as a form of arbitrage, improves humanity.

That's the problem, ppl don't get real. I remember this one New Age gal, who was bo*nking a Qigong instructor tell me, 'You know, he could have gotten me pregnant?'

My response was, 'Why did you bo*nk him w/o protection if you didn't want to get pregnant?'

Her answer, 'You know, all that Qi, he thought he could have his way with me.'

My eyes rolled.

Peter P says

dating someone who believes in Sex Magick?

Bunch of Wiccans or New Age whackos. See the above story.

181   Rin   2014 Sep 22, 4:06am  

Reality says

There is no need to make those travel arrangements or dealing with the hassle of travel or sleeping in someone else' bed.

On this side note, even as of a couple of years ago, I could have bought a nice condo in Montreal center city easily at half of the price of an equivalent location in Boston. If I were a Manhattan-ite, earning in excess of $1M/yr, I would have parked my first bonus into that MTL flat and then, gotten myself a French-Canadian Sugar Baby up north. This is a great setup as she'd be discreet and that it's known in Quebecois culture, that gentlemen of means take care of the younger ladies. BTW, I was offered this by a French-Canadian but I didn't need a long term arrangement so I'd turned her down.

The flight between NYC and MTL is one hour. If I were really in need ... I'd even do it mid-week with a return flight at 6AM to make for my meetings in the city.

On the contrary, in the USA, if/when this gal's parents find out, they may attempt to get a false rape allegation going, seeing that it's creepy for a 60-something to be with a 19 year old, and possibly even sue Princeton or Columbia Univ to get some sort of settlement going between the three parties.

Ok, if I absolutely, positively, had to be in Manhattan, I'd simply book her on the MTL-NYC shuttle and have my limo pick her up at the airport, either Newark or LaGuardia. No monies will be exchanged on US soil.

182   Peter P   2014 Sep 22, 4:11am  

Rin says

In the USA, if/when this gal's parents find out, they may attempt to get a false rape allegation going, seeing that it's creepy for a 60-something to be with a 19 year old, and possibly even sue Princeton or Columbia Univ to get some sort of settlement going between the three parties.

It depends. The only leverage parents have on an adult child is money. That could be overcome. Any sugar daddy worths his salt would first attempt to dilute the subject's other support systems.

(Sorry, I have been writing a novel. Sometimes I may be in-character when I comment here. So if you think I am extra-evil sometimes...)

183   Rin   2014 Sep 22, 4:19am  

Peter P says

Rin says

In the USA, if/when this gal's parents find out, they may attempt to get a false rape allegation going, seeing that it's creepy for a 60-something to be with a 19 year old, and possibly even sue Princeton or Columbia Univ to get some sort of settlement going between the three parties.

It depends. The only leverage parents have on an adult child is money. That could be overcome. Any sugar daddy worths his salt would first attempt to dilute the subject's competitive support systems.

(Sorry, I have been writing a novel. Sometimes I may be in-character when I comment here.)

The thing is that false rape charges, remember Kobe Bryant at the hotel in Colorado, tend to be scandalous and have been known to hurt ppl's business and reputation.

And in America, we have that type of hypocritical society. If a Sugar Baby in MTL even thought about it, she'd be laughed at, as it would be completely obvious to the system there that it was extortion, as bo*nking is a normal thing, esp when it's a Sugar Daddy arrangement. No one will believe her.

184   New Renter   2014 Sep 22, 4:23am  

Rin says

Peter P says

dating someone who believes in Sex Magick?

Bunch of Wiccans or New Age whackos. See the above story.

Oh I dunno, Sex Magik, The Gathering could be a nice way to break the monotony of monogamy all at once.

Rin says

No monies will be exchanged on US soil.

Sure until she screams how she was trafficked with false promises. By the time the dust settles the damage will have been done.

185   Rin   2014 Sep 22, 4:33am  

New Renter says

Rin says

Peter P says

dating someone who believes in Sex Magick?

Bunch of Wiccans or New Age whackos. See the above story.

Oh I dunno, Sex Magik, The Gathering could be a nice way to break the monotony of monogamy all at once.

I do know that Sex Magic is practiced and offered up in Toronto.

186   Rin   2014 Sep 22, 4:34am  

New Renter says

Rin says

No monies will be exchanged on US soil.

Sure until she screams how she was trafficked with false promises. By the time the dust settles the damage will have been done.

That's why one needs to book a roundtrip but for the most part, it's better just to fly up there oneself, as it's only an hour away.

187   Rin   2014 Sep 22, 4:35am  

BTW, I do not bo*nk on American soil. That's my credo.

188   Peter P   2014 Sep 22, 4:55am  

Rin says

The thing is that false rape charges, remember Kobe Bryant at the hotel in Colorado, tend to be scandalous and have been known to hurt ppl's business and reputation.

Ah, I do remember that.

But in my mind, "Kobe B" auto-completes to "Kobe Beef." It takes me a while to recall the basketball player.

189   Rin   2014 Sep 22, 5:10am  

Peter P says

Rin says

The thing is that false rape charges, remember Kobe Bryant at the hotel in Colorado, tend to be scandalous and have been known to hurt ppl's business and reputation.

Ah, I do remember that.

But in my mind, "Kobe B" auto-completes to "Kobe Beef." It takes me a while to recall the basketball player.

The moment that incident occurred, everyone around me assumed that he was guilty but I saw that it was BS. And of course, she immediately calmed up, after getting a million out of the deal. How convenient. That's not a person looking for justice and a public apology but a scam artist.

Kobe had lost his Coca-Cola, McDonald, & Nutella deals, as a result of a false rape charge. That was worth more than his NBA salary.

190   Peter P   2014 Sep 22, 5:18am  

Years ago Larry Ellison was falsely accused of sexual harassment. That girl picked the wrong target. She ended up doing jail time.

We need heroes like Larry Ellison. More companies should have a backbone like Oracle does.

191   Rin   2014 Sep 22, 5:26am  

Peter P says

We need heroes like Larry Ellison.

Larry's a bonafide billionaire. He's got more resources than the typical $1M-10M/yr banker or sports player.

I'm sure that every gal at Oracle, who he'd once dated, was asked to sign a release form by his lawyers. Then, by building this paper trail dossier, in the future, his hounds of hell attorneys were able to dog her efforts during the deposition, resulting in her claims being proven wrong.

192   Peter P   2014 Sep 22, 5:28am  

Rin says

Larry's a bonafide billionaire. He's got more resources than the typical $1-10M/yr banker or sports player.

Worse yet, sport teams and their sponsors tend to be extremely image-conscious.

193   Rin   2014 Sep 22, 5:32am  

Peter P says

Rin says

Larry's a bonafide billionaire. He's got more resources than the typical $1-10M/yr banker or sports player.

Worse yet, sport teams and their sponsors tend to be extremely image-conscious.

All of us are.

I mean if a person in my sector was managing an account of value, and a public false rape charge was vocalized/filed, the partners would immediately take him off the account.

Normally, I think they handle these things with a "sabbatical", instead of a down and dirty termination but when that person returns, assuming that the incident doesn't go from the deposition state to a full trial, what are his chances of getting back the clients which were taken from him? He may have lost 2-4 years of his career.

194   Peter P   2014 Sep 22, 5:37am  

Rin says

I mean if a person in my sector was managing an account of value, and a public false rape charge was vocalized/filed, the partners would immediately take him off the account.

Well, such person can be a legal risk because he may not be able to perform his fiduciary duties.

Whenever legal, a sensible partner should consider taking anyone going through a divorce off the trading floor. You cannot tolerate shit in that kind of environment.

195   Rin   2014 Sep 22, 5:39am  

Peter P says

Whenever legal, a sensible partner should consider taking anyone going through a divorce off the trading floor. You cannot tolerate shit in that kind of environment.

Well, then half the ppl will be on sabbatical one day. I think allegations of murder, rape, fraud, etc, are a lot different than breaking up with one's spouse.

196   Peter P   2014 Sep 22, 5:41am  

Rin says

Well, then half the ppl will be on sabbatical one day. I think allegations of murder, rape, fraud, etc, are a lot different than breaking up with one's spouse.

It is not an image issue. More of a psychological one. Shit like that fucks with your intuition.

197   Peter P   2014 Sep 22, 5:45am  

Or perhaps certain companies should more vigorously defend their employees against sexual harassment allegations. They should even aggressively prosecute false accusations. Having a deep pocket is a liability AND an asset. They should use it more wisely.

198   Rin   2014 Sep 22, 5:52am  

Peter P says

Rin says

Well, then half the ppl will be on sabbatical one day. I think allegations of murder, rape, fraud, etc, are a lot different than breaking up with one's spouse.

It is not an image issue. More of a psychological one. Shit like that fucks with your intuition.

I think we're converging upon the issue here and that's that women are more trouble than they're worth.

If it takes a billionaire, super alpha male Larry Ellison to successfully vanquish a faux harassment claim, then what's a guy who earns a regular salary suppose to do, besides part with half his savings in divorce court?

In contrast to the above, I've compartmentalized them.

There's no bo*nking in the USA. At most, I take 'em locally for activities like fine dining, dancing, and seeing plays/musicals so that I'm able to live a cultured life without society's gaydar detector going off.

And for all other activities: rock climbing, martial arts, basketball, rock concerts, it's only with other male friends.

199   Peter P   2014 Sep 22, 5:54am  

Rin says

And for all other activities: rock climbing, martial arts, basketball, rock concerts, it's only with other male friends.

I do like to work with a muse, even just a platonic one. Women can be great friends too.

200   Rin   2014 Sep 22, 5:58am  

Peter P says

Rin says

And for all other activities: rock climbing, martial arts, basketball, rock concerts, it's only with other male friends.

I do like to work with a muse, even just a platonic one. Women can be great friends too.

A good one I knew was a lesbian. And thus, I have nothing to worry about, around her, as she's not at all physically interested in me but is a fun person in terms of friendship.

With hetero women, on the other hand, I have to keep things crisp so that that play/musical, doesn't mean another meetup within a short time. This is tricky, as time goes by because unlike back in my 20s, many unattached women in their 30s are looking for hooks into a guy, esp if he works in the financial services sector.

201   Peter P   2014 Sep 22, 6:47am  

If I am to find a platonic muse, any advice for me?

My wife is my soulmate, but a spouse cannot serve be a muse.

202   Rin   2014 Sep 22, 6:59am  

Peter P says

If I am to find a platonic muse, any advice for me?

If I'm not mistaken ... a muse is typically a person who uses a self-referencing style of wordplay, which stimulates the other party's ideas.

If so, then check out this gal in Australia, who runs a youtube channel, talking to herself about all kinds of non sequiturs ...

http://www.youtube.com/user/communitychannel

I suspect that she may take you up on your idea, or perhaps, even come up with a brief video about it.

203   Peter P   2014 Sep 22, 7:06am  

Rin says

If I'm not mistaken ... a muse is typically a person who uses a self-referencing style of wordplay, which stimulates the other party's ideas.

To me, a muse is like a biofeedback machine for creativity. There has to be at least mental and verbal interactions.

204   Rin   2014 Sep 22, 11:18am  

Peter P says

To me, a muse is like a biofeedback machine for creativity. There has to be at least mental and verbal interactions.

Unfortunately, I'd never met a woman like that in real life. And this includes those who're educated and so-forth, who overuse terms like *eclectic*, in describing themselves.

The muses I'd known were guys, whom I could bounce ideas with.

205   New Renter   2014 Sep 22, 2:01pm  

Rin says

many unattached women in their 30s are looking for hooks into a guy, esp if he works in the financial services sector.

So don't tell them your in the financial services.

Tell them you're a microbio post-doc and try not to choke on the dust they kick up as they scram for the door.

206   Peter P   2014 Sep 22, 2:13pm  

New Renter says

So don't tell them your in the financial services.

Better yet, tell them you studied Philosophical Theology. :-)

207   Y   2014 Sep 22, 2:18pm  

http://www.youtube.com/embed/JuA0Xm2cy1s

Rin says

I think we're converging upon the issue here and that's that women are more trouble than they're worth.

208   Rin   2014 Sep 23, 7:22am  

New Renter says

Tell them you're a microbio post-doc and try not to choke on the dust they kick up as they scram for the door.

Good idea, however, since I do need to wear nice clothes for work, and that my car is always washed, maintained, & clean, it's a little hard to play poor, though I do pass for middle middle-class, not upper middle-towards-lower rich, which is my current trajectory.

In any case, the only reason for women companions in America, for me, is fine dining and dancing. It's strange that an ordinary heterosexual male, needs a *beard* in mainstream America, to be acceptable and normal. It would be better to be gay in this society.

209   New Renter   2014 Sep 23, 8:03am  

Rin says

New Renter says

Tell them you're a microbio post-doc and try not to choke on the dust they kick up as they scram for the door.

Good idea, however, since I do need to wear nice clothes for work, and that my car is always washed, maintained, & clean, it's a little hard to play poor, though I do pass for middle middle-class, not upper middle-towards-lower rich, which is my current trajectory.

In any case, the only reason for women companions in America, for me, is fine dining and dancing. It's strange that an ordinary heterosexual male, needs a *beard* in mainstream America, to be acceptable and normal. It would be better to be gay in this society.

Well the other option is to be frank about your extracirriculat activities and ask if she would like to go dutch on a three way carnal pleasure cruse, Montreal style.

Who knows, you might dfind your soulmate after all ;)

210   Peter P   2014 Sep 23, 8:28am  

New Renter says

Well the other option is to be frank about your extracirriculat activities and ask if she would like to go dutch on a three way carnal pleasure cruse, Montreal style.

FFM or FMF? How do these things work anyway? I think threesomes were designed for 2 males and 1 female.

211   Rin   2014 Sep 23, 8:32am  

Peter P says

New Renter says

Well the other option is to be frank about your extracirriculat activities and ask if she would like to go dutch on a three way carnal pleasure cruse, Montreal style.

FFM or FMF? How do these things work anyway? I think threesomes were designed for 2 males and 1 female.

Up in Montreal, a lot of providers work with couples. They tend to reject the two guys on one gal model.

New Renter says

Well the other option is to be frank about your extracirriculat activities and ask if she would like to go dutch on a three way carnal pleasure cruse, Montreal style.

Who knows, you might dfind your soulmate after all ;)

I'll try that on someone who doesn't know ppl I already know.

212   Peter P   2014 Sep 23, 8:35am  

Rin says

Up in Montreal, a lot of providers work with couples.

Then the female must be at least bi-curious then. FMF sounds like punishment (not the right kind) to the man.

213   New Renter   2014 Sep 23, 8:38am  

Peter P says

FFM or FMF? How do these things work anyway? I think threesomes were designed for 2 males and 1 female.

Well now we know what kind of movies Peter prefers.
Rin says

Up in Montreal, a lot of providers work with couples. They tend to reject the two guys on one gal model.

Great! No excuses then.

Rin says

I'll try that on someone who doesn't know ppl I already know.

Report back when you do.

214   New Renter   2014 Sep 23, 8:39am  

Peter P says

Rin says

Up in Montreal, a lot of providers work with couples.

Then the female must be at least bi-curious then. FMF sounds like punishment (not the right kind) to the man.

Maybe you'd prefer MMM?

215   Peter P   2014 Sep 23, 8:43am  

New Renter says

Well now we know what kind of movies Peter prefers.

I just like to write about them. :-)

I prefer to see women cracking jokes.

216   Oilwelldoctor   2014 Sep 24, 8:18am  

A Chinese doctor I met in my youth told me men were not meant to be with just one woman. At the time I was happily married and disagreed but as I grew older I began to understand he was right.

217   Rin   2014 Sep 24, 8:24am  

Oilwelldoctor says

A Chinese doctor I met in my youth told me men were not meant to be with just one woman. At the time I was happily married and disagreed but as I grew older I began to understand he was right.

Good to see you again! How's Angeles City's Northern campus?

218   Rin   2014 Sep 24, 9:28am  

New Renter says

Rin says

I'll try that on someone who doesn't know ppl I already know.

Report back when you do.

Ok, just tried it today.

She said, "You're crazy! How can you even think that way?!"

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