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At this point it doesn't matter what they do, they'll never see another penny of mine.
At this point it doesn't matter what they do, they'll never see another penny of mine.
yep, make crap overpriced software using foreign labor, make sure alternatives are not market viable including FREE alternative. Gotta love microsoft.
Microsoft wants immigration reform to bring in foreign workers
They just laid off thousands and thousands of workers.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyclay/2014/07/20/microsoft-layoffs-also-impact-thousands-of-contractors/
Why not hire the people they laid off back?
New Deal America: Company temporarily lays off in a slump, rehires workers a few months later, often pays half their wages for a time.
Great Immoderation Free Traitor America: Company lays of thousands of workers, also cuts employment via local contractors, then insists on getting visas to import countless foreigners just a few weeks later.
ya this is new thunderlips?
how many times have I said on here that they are gutting the american labor force. It's working for many reasons one is enough people dont consider themselves to be working people, instead they are chicken little capitalists aka Patnet retards.
Well yeah.
Most Americans don't understand what Middle Class means.
To be Middle Class, it means own enough *PRODUCTIVE ASSETS* that you can live at or somewhat above the poverty level WITHOUT working for a living and WITHOUT Unemployment benefits.
If you need to work to pay your essential housing, heating, etc. bills, you are not Middle Class. If you can't live indefinitely without working, however poorly, you ain't Middle Class.
To be middle class, you must be independent of wage employment by others.
Most Americans wouldn't become middle class until they turned 65.
Americans are mostly working class, they could not survive without employer derived income for any decent length of time.
but it's in the United States where most of the company's innovation takes place
Ok, that's it, Microsoft and innovation are an oxymoron. Worker bee at MS equals Ballmer's b*tch and nothing else. Sure, there's a new chief in town but as Roger Daltrey once said, "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss"
To be middle class, you must be independent of wage employment by others.
I thought that that was the lower rich? Much of the middle class was always a wage slave, even during the good olde days.
We should worry about 98% of job loss not 2% in IT.
In general when there is a manufacturing company, of 5000 people, there are about 50 IT employees. If we bring back Manufacturing from China and Mexico we will have tons of new jobs.
Obviously IT folks are chatting online and complaining so it feels like all IT jobs are going but truly its a lagging indicator.
IT jobs are going after Manufacturing jobs left. There are 11,000 companies who moved to china. Most of manufacturing people are less internet savee and don't complain online as much as IT.
Microsoft wants immigration reform to bring in foreign workers
By Matt Markovich Published: Sep 14, 2012 at 4:30 PM PDT Last Updated: Sep 14, 2012 at 5:25 PM PDT
I thought that that was the lower rich? Much of the middle class was always a wage slave, even during the good olde days.
I thought it was about the means of production.
If you hang out your own shingle (lawyer, doctor, dentist), or own productive assets (could be ice cream machines, being a landlord, garage and mechanic tools, whatever) you're middle class. I suppose you could also live off dividends, interest, etc.
If you are utterly dependent on wage/salary employment, you're not middle class or rich, but working class. Even if you're 25 and have $50,000 in an IRA and drive a beamer, even if you own a home free and clear, you ain't middle class because you can't survive without working for somebody else - if you don't own the means of your own production.
If you are utterly dependent on wage/salary employment, you're not middle class or rich, but working class.
By that definition I'd say that the top 1% have a good stab at being non-dependent on wage/employment sooner or later if they don't live a too lavish lifestyle. If you make smart strategic investments, you can maybe pull it off as a top 5%er in your 40s. If you have no kids (wife), then likely sooner. Looking bleak ;)
Microsoft wants immigration reform to bring in foreign workers
By Matt Markovich Published: Sep 14, 2012 at 4:30 PM PDT Last Updated: Sep 14, 2012 at 5:25 PM PDT
Good point. This subject is almost two years old, why is it being posted here now?
Apple hires lots of Indians. One third? Why so many?
http://www.opptrends.com/2014/07/one-third-of-apple-inc-aapl-engineers-are-indian-report/
Apple Inc. (NASDAQ:AAPL) has quickly climbed the ladder of success and Indian engineers have played an important role in taking it to the heights much coveted by many tech companies, according to a report from the Times of India. As per the latest estimates, engineers from India make one-third of the total engineering staff-strength of the $171 billion company and IT vendors from India handle a large proportion of the company’s enterprise software, service and support work, which is also growing rapidly.
Isn't that funny. This is one area where repubs and dems seem to agree in a bipartisan fashion and yet politicians of all stripes support offshoring even more jobs...
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Microsoft-wants-immigration-reform-to-bring-in-foreign-workers-169845136.html
Microsoft wants immigration reform to bring in foreign workers
SEATTLE -- Several high-tech companies, including Microsoft, say there's a brain drain in America.
They're worried about a shortage of qualified high-tech workers, and now they're asking Congress for help.
Microsoft alone employs 45,000 people in the United States and tens of thousands more worldwide. Officials from Microsoft and a host of other powerful companies say America isn't producing enough homegrown math and science experts and current laws prevent them from recruiting the best of those experts from overseas.
Microsoft owns 120 satellite offices around the world, but it's in the United States where most of the company's innovation takes place. Despite that, company officials say there's a brain drain in this country.