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At least he didn't try to scare her with climate change tall tales, or tell her how great the Federal Reserve is.
I am still having trouble understanding why this is illegal.
Everything is illegal. What part of that don't you understand?
The fair's last day was yesterday, so property values must have increased by $100,000 starting today....
Fair definitely has a bit of a subculture feel to it - both for employees and from the customers - seems like plenty of hard drugs and booze that added up through years of existence.
It appears he was soliciting 18+ women.
Is that illegal? How will they make it stick?
Instinct tells me he really wants young girls who just claim to be 18. That way he can have a defense.
If they frame him I'll be glad
When will the government stop oppressing job creators who are only trying to bring opportunity to the downtrodden?
a card that says "Big Pimpin Inc. Be a Star." The card also offered a signing bonus for an 18th birthday contract.
The evidence is right on the card, 18th birthday. Thus, there's no soliciting of a minor here.
That's like saying that when you're 18, you can join the Army on your own volition. Is that the army soliciting a minor, by telling him when his adult options are?
It appears he was soliciting 18+ women.
Is that illegal? How will they make it stick?
Instinct tells me he really wants young girls who just claim to be 18. That way he can have a defense.
If they frame him I'll be glad
Sorry libs. I don't believe in fairness and justice for scumbags.
Pandering. Illegal but seldom enforced.
The Alameda County Fair IS a meat market, guess he got confused.
At the Alameda Fair concerts (for the free on the beach concerts in Santa Cruz as well), the musicians are soliciting groupies and collecting keys/phone numbers right from the stage, what's the difference.
They said he handed Justice a card that says "Big Pimpin Inc. Be a Star." The card also offered a signing bonus for an 18th birthday contract.
"He like asked if I was 18 and I was like no I'm 16, and he kind of thought about it, and he was like call me when you turn 18," said Justice.
Mom's just jealous that she was passed over for a mother/daughter team.
“He said I’d be a good porn star, that makes me just feel sick,†said Justice.
Don't worry honey, soon you'll be too old and unattractive to be noticed by these people. Just ask your mom.
That's like saying that when you're 18, you can join the Army on your own volition. Is that the army soliciting a minor, by telling him when his adult options are?
Hmmm, highly paid porn star or cannon fodder.
Choices choices...
Seriously if you name your daughter "Justice" you're just preparing her for the porn industry.
The Alameda County Fair IS a meat market, guess he got confused.
What? I thought the fair was organized for educational purposes such as checking out the reptiles and black widows!
That's like saying that when you're 18, you can join the Army on your own volition. Is that the army soliciting a minor, by telling him when his adult options are?
Hmmm, highly paid porn star or cannon fodder.
Choices choices...
Seriously if you name your daughter "Justice" you're just preparing her for the porn industry.
Nah, porn doesn't pay. It's better to be a highly paid escort and then, there's also no digital history of the activity.
Nah, porn doesn't pay. It's better to be a highly paid escort and then, there's also no digital history of the activity.
No reason the young lady can't do both if the porn advertises her escort service(s).
And as to the digital record who cares? Celebrities put out sex tapes all the time just to enhance their appeal.
Nah, porn doesn't pay. It's better to be a highly paid escort and then, there's also no digital history of the activity.
No reason the young lady can't do both if the porn advertises her escort service(s).
And as to the digital record who cares? Celebrities put out sex tapes all the time just to enhance their appeal.
I hear strippers and pole dancers make $180,000 per year part time. Many are students.
Um, he checked their age, so what the hell crime was committed? Sounds like he should sue the hell out of the state for false arrest and violation of free speech. It's legal to wait until a person is 18 before doing any nude modeling, and that's exactly what he did.
Whether or not you are offended by what a person says is irrelevant. If saying anything that some person finds offensive is illegal, then you'd have to arrest all the Christians in this country because I find their religion and superstitions to be offensive. I find prayer to be offensive, so if we're arresting people for inadvertently offending people, round up all the people who say prayers even in the privacy of their own home.
Pandering. Illegal but seldom enforced.
http://definitions.uslegal.com/p/pandering/
Recruiting young women for the porn industry is not the same as recruiting women as prostitutes. If it were Ronald Reagan and John Wayne would be actual war heroes.
I hear strippers and pole dancers make $180,000 per year part time. Many are students.
They showed the girls on 20/20 a couple of weeks ago. IMO, anybody who paid those girls to strip were getting ripped off.
Does the Alameda County Fair attract a disproportionate amount of attractive women?
Only if you consider tranny types attractive.
zzyzzx says
Does the Alameda County Fair attract a disproportionate amount of attractive women?
I am still having trouble understanding why this is illegal.
No you're right it shouldn't be. And it shouldn't be illegal for Fathers to track these scumbags down and beat them to death with a baseball bat either.
Or for all of the Men at the fair to have grabbed that guy and thrown him in the turkey fryer.
It's all just good ole summer time fun!
I am still having trouble understanding why this is illegal.
No you're right it shouldn't be. And it shouldn't be illegal for Fathers to track these scumbags down and beat them to death with a baseball bat either.
Or for all of the Men at the fair to have grabbed that guy and thrown him in the turkey fryer.
It's all just good ole summer time fun!
Had the guy kidnapped the girl and forced her under threat of violence to perform in a porn movie I'd agree with you, I might even take a couple of swings myself.
But that's not what happened
The man simply offered a chance for the young woman to enter into a legal, highly lucrative career that requires nothing more than her God given gifts and a certain moral flexibility. She said no thanks and that was it. No need for violence.
No you're right it shouldn't be. And it shouldn't be illegal for Fathers to track these scumbags down and beat them to death with a baseball bat either.
Or for all of the Men at the fair to have grabbed that guy and thrown him in the turkey fryer.
And then the mothers, fathers, brothers, cousins of these men can revenge murder the murderers and their family, thus setting up a Hatfield/McCoy feud that will span states and decades. Good job.
One person's "scumbag" is another person's beloved child, and chances are those family members will view you as "scumbags" attacking their family and react to you the exact same way to are reacting to the people you don't like. Remember, most Americans are just like you; they think their family is infinitely more important than yours.
The definition of pedophilia should be based on biology, not culture. It should not change at the whim of the populace.
So based on biology, what should the American definition of pedophilia be?
a certain moral flexibility
That presupposes there is anything immoral about pornography or sexual experience. I have yet to hear any rational justification for such an assumption.
Yes, there are practical consequences and trade-offs between pursuing short-term and long-term sexual relations. But they are practical and emotional consequences, not moral ones.
No one has ever even proposes a reasonable reason why consenting adult prostitution is immoral in any way, shape, or form. Again, one must distinguish between consequences in the realm of practical relationships and emotional connections versus actual immoral behavior.
Of course, most people are just too intellectually lazy to even think about what "immoral behavior" actually means in the first place. So it's not surprising they throw the term around as loosely as Miley Cyrus throws her clothes when she sees a construction site.
And then the mothers, fathers, brothers, cousins of these men can revenge murder the murderers and their family, thus setting up a Hatfield/McCoy feud that will span states and decades.
Blood feuds are very conservatarian: no liberal courts or prisons, so no job killing taxes.
That's why Somalia and Sierra Leone enjoy a standard of economic productivity which is envy of the world!
Wait until the thought police catch you dreaming of the moment from your youth, when you lost your virginity to a 14 yr old gal, on your 14th birthday. If you become aroused and pleasure yourself to the memory, you will be locked away in a private prison with all the pot smokers, and forced to assemble office furniture for 0.67 cents a day, of which the usgov is contractually obligated to purchase at 10x mark ups, to replace similar, like new, office furniture they purchased just twelve months prior.
Rightfully so
And all those that profit
So it makes no sense to chastise young teens for wanting sex or being sexual beings while pretending that humans are in their sexual prime between 40 and 70. That's just bullshit.
Yeech!
Short of manipulating the human genome, there is nothing you can do to keep teenagers asexual and seniors sexual. Now if we did tweak the genome to delay puberty until age 30, we could satisfy our culture's arbitrary desire to make people have no sex in their teens and more sex 30 to 70, but there is a price. Instead of supporting your kids for 18 to 22 years, you have to support them for 40 years. Are you prepared to pay that price to keep your daughters from having sex in their teens?
I disagree. There are plenty of drugs warning of loss of sexual desire - propecia, antidepresents and chemo come to mind:
http://www.drugwatch.com/propecia/side-effects/
http://depression.about.com/od/sexualdysfunction/a/sexdysfunction.htm
http://chemocare.com/chemotherapy/side-effects/loss-of-libido.aspx#.U7w0vECAM6k
Plenty of drugs (like viagra and propecia) are sold SPECIFICALLY for thier side effects. Viagra was originally a heart medication:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/27/health/viagra-anniversary-timeline/index.html
Propecia was developed to treat (and still is used to) enlarged prostates:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finasteride
This could be a whole new market for pharma companies! Drugs to suppress your child developing libido until they are "fully developed adults" say late 30s. That will let them focus on the important things in life like working themselves to death at a crappy job to raise money for a house and/or playing sports with the dream of going pro. No more teen pregnancy, no more hormonally challenged teenage boys causing trouble. It'll be the 1950s ultra conservatives always dreamed of!
Blood feuds are very conservatarian
Yes, it's a defining element of conservative culture. They have a tribal, Stone Age mentality. Must kill all neighbors before they kill me.
So based on biology, what should the American definition of pedophilia be?
Hmm... In the days of completely shaven nether-regions, this may not work.
Yes, it's a defining element of conservative culture. They have a tribal, Stone Age mentality. Must kill all neighbors before they kill me.
If you use any metal beyond bronze, own a wheel, or write on anything but wet clay, you are a RINO!
So based on biology, what should the American definition of pedophilia be?
If someone is old enough to be tried as an adult for murder and be subject to the death penalty, that person is old enough to consent to sex.
It makes no sense to say the state can kill a person because he/she is old enough to commit a capital offense but that person is not old enough to consent to sex.
So you can pretend that adulthood doesn't really start until 30, but your body
performs its reproductive cycles between 11 and 28, and then rapidly diminishes
It would be ironic if all the intelligent people who are delaying marriage/having kids in order to obtain degrees and establish their careers in the end will end up outbred by those who don't go to college and have 3 kids by the age of 24.
It would be ironic if all the intelligent people who are delaying marriage/having kids in order to obtain degrees and establish their careers in the end will end up outbred by those who don't go to college and have 3 kids by the age of 24.
Biology and evolution states, IMO, if you are old enough to get pregnant, you are old enough to have sex. Even if it's an old man, because he can get you pregnant. We must, however, remember, that biology dictates we live in societies for our survival, and our society dictates that pedophilia, as defined by us is just not acceptable.
Also in the old days the average lifespan of a person was just 25 years. If you don't start having babies as a teenager we would end up extinct.
So by that definition post-menopausal women are too old and/or icky for sex.
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http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/crime-law/man-arrested-soliciting-girls-porn-industry-alamed/ngZm3/
PLEASANTON, Calif. —
A man was arrested at the Alameda County Fair for soliciting young girls for the porn industry.
Sheriff's deputies arrested 34-year-old Aaron Gimbert Sunday after undercover officers say he passed out business cards to teenagers.
KTVU spoke with the mother and daughter who reported the solicitation to authorities.
While Carrie Blake turned to get water with her son Saturday, a man approached her 16-year-old daughter.
They said he handed Justice a card that says "Big Pimpin Inc. Be a Star." The card also offered a signing bonus for an 18th birthday contract.
"He like asked if I was 18 and I was like no I'm 16, and he kind of thought about it, and he was like call me when you turn 18," said Justice.
The county's sexual assault felony enforcement team investigated the alleged situation. They saw Gimbert hand out several more cards and he's now in custody, according to authorities with the Alameda County Sheriff's Office.
Justice said Gimbert was wearing a fair employee shirt. Fair management says he's not a full time fair employee, which are given background checks.
“He said I’d be a good porn star, that makes me just feel sick,†said Justice.
KTVU called the number listed on the business card and reached a voicemail recording for BPI Incorporated.
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