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The prosecution is backfiring on them.

Creepy ass cracker.

I'm white, and I rather like that description of Zimmerman in that context.

Louie CK: "oh, you shouldn't have called me cracker"

http://www.youtube.com/embed/TG4f9zR5yzY

marcus says

I'm white, and I rather like that description of Zimmerman in that context.

I find it offensive. But you sure are a fine example of that double standard liberal bias.

FortWayne says

But you sure are a fine example of that double standard liberal bias.

I would find it offensive if I was called a cracker. A cracker is a white dude who thinks blacks are inferior. Gee, I wonder whether whites get called cracker in the south more than they do in the north ? And if so, I can't imagine why.

If you accept my definition of cracker as what was meant by Martin (ie a white guy who thingks blacks are inferior), then it could be argued that Martin was out of line.

Because technically, Zimmerman is not white.

FortWayne says

If liberals only were as upset about racial slurs toward whites as they are toward blacks people might take them seriously. Good old media double standard.

If Martin had chased and killed Zimmerman, I'd be quite upset and calling for him to be charged with murder. It's hard to get upset at the victim.

I'm the biggest liberal on this site, and like all true liberals, I'm against Affirmative Action. I think you're confusing leftist with liberals as many on the right do.

marcus says

I would find it offensive if I was called a cracker. A cracker is a white dude who thinks blacks are inferior.

From the testimony Treyvon referred to all white people as crackers. I live in a neighborhood where we have a few misguided looser kids like that too. From day one they insult white people, and act like victims of society.

And he wasn't born that way, that mentality... that comes from nurture. That's his parents fault. Deadbeat welfare cases tend to raise future deadbeat welfare cases, like apples, most don't fall far from their tree.

Treyvons parents need to get off their ass and accept responsibility. This is all their fault. Their lifestyle brought this on.

FortWayne says

Treyvons parents need to get off their ass and accept responsibility. This is all their fault. Their lifestyle brought this on.

Yes, when Obama made a judgment about a perceived racial dispute, he once again jumped to the wrong conclusion when he said, "The boy could have been my son." Me thinks not. He was just basing that statement on the color of the young man's skin and nothing else. If that's not racism, I don't know what it is.

marcus says

FortWayne says

But you sure are a fine example of that double standard liberal bias.

I would find it offensive if I was called a cracker. A cracker is a white dude who thinks blacks are inferior. Gee, I wonder whether whites get called cracker in the south more than they do in the north ? And if so, I can't imagine why.

If you accept my definition of cracker as what was meant by Martin (ie a white guy who thingks blacks are inferior), then it could be argued that Martin was out of line.

Because technically, Zimmerman is not white.

Were those scumbag Boston terrorists white? They certainly were Caucasian.

MsBennet says

FortWayne says

Treyvons parents need to get off their ass and accept responsibility. This is all their fault. Their lifestyle brought this on.

Yes, when Obama made a judgment about a perceived racial dispute, he once again jumped to the wrong conclusion when he said, "The boy could have been my son." Me thinks not. He was just basing that statement on the color of the young man's skin and nothing else. If that's not racism, I don't know what it is.

Huh??

FortWayne says

looser kids

What's a looser kid ?

FortWayne says

Treyvons parents need to get off their ass and accept responsibility. This is all their fault. Their lifestyle brought this on.

Wow.

Cracker - poor white Southerner. Possible derivation: The dude who cracked the whip over the slaves.

Fuck the cracker!

FortWayne says

And he wasn't born that way, that mentality... that comes from nurture. That's his parents fault. Deadbeat welfare cases tend to raise future deadbeat welfare cases, like apples, most don't fall far from their tree.

So far Jesse Jackson & Co have come a long way for their own good and created their own legacy, but most black folks havent gotten much in return. Have not been able to take destiny into their own hands to better themselves. For those who have been away from JJ&Co they worked to be successful, "Cracker" isnt in their vocabulary.

thomaswong.1986 says

So far Jesse Jackson & Co have come a long way for their own good and created their own legacy, but most black folks havent gotten much in return. Have not been able to take destiny into their own hands to better themselves. For those who have been away from JJ&Co they worked to be successful, "Cracker" isnt in their vocabulary.

Well at least it's obvious you aren't a stupid racist.

Straw Man says

Zim is Hispanic. And we don't know whether he "thinks blacks are inferior" - there is zero evidence to support such claim.

Oh okay. WE just know THAT FOR SOME REASON, Zimmerman thought he looked suspicious and needed to be followed, and stopped by the police. He was going to keep an eye on him until police got there, and who knows whether he couldn't control his wanna be cop self from doing more.

But all of that had absolutely nothing to do with his being black. That's just the liberal media again, trying to bring race into it.

Let me guess.

Yeah, but there were stories of black kids doing robberies in the area. If there had been stories of blond girls doing robberies, and he was suspicious of a blond girl, ......blah blah blah....

Whatever. A person can't really be helped to understand their own idiocy.

FortWayne says

I find it offensive.

Oh, so you're a member of the whiny PC-police, huh?

marcus says

FortWayne says

looser kids

What's a looser kid ?

A kid who isn't as tight.

MsBennet says

Me thinks not

LOL! Um, the word is "methinks", not "me thinks".

From Wiki: Another theory holds that slave foremen in the antebellum South used bullwhips to discipline African slaves, with such use of the whip being described as "cracking the whip". The white foremen who cracked these whips thus became known as "crackers".

FortWayne says

Treyvons parents need to get off their ass and accept responsibility. This is all their fault. Their lifestyle brought this on.

Now Now Wayne, come on...

You know damn well that only White parents are responsible for the kids who grow up to emulate Woo Girls and Thugs.

I just talked to the jurors on the Zimmerman trial & they told me their decision would be based on comments they read on Patnet.

I don't like wasting much time on this silly topic of the whole zimmerman/martin mess, but one thing I notice is peoples reaction to it seem to be purely political.

If you're a turd fer brains dem like marcus, you make comments like "I wish I was on the jury, id find him guilty!"

Conversely, every right winged nutjob is aye ok with the idea that blacks should be able to be gunned down in the streets on a whim, as simple as your type don't belong in my neighborhood

POLITICIZE EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME, YO!

John Bailo says

serial killer

Huh? Who else has he killed?

John Bailo says

Ethnicity is irrelevant when you are dealing with a Stalk-n-Slay serial killer like Zimmerman.

CaptainShuddup says

FortWayne says

Treyvons parents need to get off their ass and accept responsibility. This is all their fault. Their lifestyle brought this on.

Now Now Wayne, come on...

You know damn well that only White parents are responsible for the kids who grow up to emulate Woo Girls and Thugs.

You are right, what was I thinking.

People only hear what they want to hear anyway...

errc says

POLITICIZE EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME, YO!

Yes, I find it sickening. The media plays into it as well, getting ACLU types to always speak on Martins side and conservative gun control types on Zimmerman's in the commentary.

The issue of this case is what constitutes self defense. Pretty clear that Zimmerman tailed the kid, harassed him somehow, was getting his ass beat and then shot him like a little bitch.

The prosecution screwed this up by going for murder 1. They're never going to get that. Zimmerman will walk and there will be riots. They should have just gone for manslaughter, which they could probably get if they could convince the jury that Martin wasn't the instigator.

Straw Man says

Yes, for the reason clearly stated: recent burglaries in the neighborhood. Confirmed in court by prosecutions' witnesses during cross-examination, btw.

So you think it's right if someone is the same race as someone who committed burglaries, that they be stalked and detained by someone who isn't even a cop ?

marcus says

Straw Man says

Yes, for the reason clearly stated: recent burglaries in the neighborhood. Confirmed in court by prosecutions' witnesses during cross-examination, btw.

So you think it's right if someone is the same race as someone who committed burglaries, that they be stalked and detained by someone who isn't even a cop ?

So what you're saying is, you'd like to leave the racial profiling to those oh so competent and trustworthy, policepeople. That should turn out well

marcus says

Straw Man says

Yes, for the reason clearly stated: recent burglaries in the neighborhood. Confirmed in court by prosecutions' witnesses during cross-examination, btw.

So you think it's right if someone is the same race as someone who committed burglaries, that they be stalked and detained by someone who isn't even a cop ?

That's the whole point of neighborhood watch. There are always certain types of people who look suspicious who commit a lot of petty crime. There is nothing wrong with profiling. All normal people do it, it's part of evolution... you don't make the same mistake twice.

jerrc says

"If you're a turd fer brains dem like marcus, you make comments like "I wish I was on the jury, id find him guilty!"

This is what I see when I read a thread, with ignore functionality off (other icognito window in this case).

Errc's emotion is telling. He's displayed his kneejerk hostility and pot smoking enlightenment enough to deserve being on ignore. But here he goes again.

The fascinating thing is my opinion isn't political at all, but obviously his opinion is:

" turd fer brains dem like marcus"

Who makes everything political ?

I said that I would like to be on the jury, in response to people who were predicting Zimmerman walks. Obviously I couldn't be on the jury without lying, that I already have somewhat of an opinion. Based on what I know (and obviously that could change a lot if I were on the jury), but yes, based on what I know (which is limited) Zimmerman should do time for killing Trayvon Martin.

This is not political at all. Unless you're such a moron that you think not having an anti black kid mentality somehow makes me a turd for brains democrat.

Errc you are a world class moron.

Peoples opinion about whether Zimmerman should have to do time for this, fall in to 2 categories.

#1)Those who think that Zimmerman's testimony is basically worthless, and it's just unfortunate for him that he got himself in a situation where he felt he needed to shoot and murder a child. (basically just bad luck for him if somehow his story is all true and Martin deserved to be killed that night).

or

#2)Those who think Zimmerman's story is all we've got, and if by chance it's all lies, then that's just the way the cookie crumbled for Martin, bad luck for him if it went down the way Zimmerman says it did, and just too bad if it didn't go the way zimmerman say it did. Just bad luck all around for Martin, that he's not here to tell his story, and we can not hold GZ responsible.

IT is wrong to start with a guilty unless proven innocent position, but in this case we do know that GZ shot and killed TM. And we know that if he had left him alone that night, he would still be alive.

That's enough for me to lean in the direction I do(towrd #1), and it has nothing to do with the fact that I'm in a union.

robertoaribas says

errc says

marcus says

Straw Man says

Yes, for the reason clearly stated: recent burglaries in the neighborhood. Confirmed in court by prosecutions' witnesses during cross-examination, btw.

So you think it's right if someone is the same race as someone who committed burglaries, that they be stalked and detained by someone who isn't even a cop ?

So what you're saying is, you'd like to leave the racial profiling to those oh so competent and trustworthy, policepeople. That should turn out well

NO, you obviously fail at logic. If he says he doesn't think non cops should racially profile, that DOES NOT IMPLY that he thinks cops should.

Well then ma'am, what is the purpose for ending the thought with

"By someone who isn't even a cop"