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rootvg
2012 May 4, 2:27pm
I used to sound like a Pittsburgh native because of the family connection and then not so much after moving away from there.
Have you ever heard the WDVE routine about a fictional second-hand clothing store named "Pants n' at" and Donnie Iris? :-D
No, sorry.
rootvg
2012 May 4, 2:29pm
it's not the United States of San Francisco.
It is were I live.
Now get the hell off my lawn.
No problem. If you want to live in a politically correct bubble, so be it.
Just don't expect that sphere of influence to extend beyond the bridge.
rootvg
2012 May 4, 2:32pm
it's not the United States of San Francisco.
It is were I live.
Now get the hell off my lawn.
I'm not on your lawn and I'm not going to be.
We don't live in the United States of San Francisco!
You can't get it done, now or EVER!
East bay, violent crime, bad schools, terrible commutes and a feeling of "are we even in the USA?"
yes, lets have bubble 2.0 in the hills where we can get a good whiff of the sweage dump near McCarthy Ranch.
buying a house is a luxury
What? A mold infested asbestos laden piece of 1950's dry rotted junk which is sub-ducting over landfill at 1200 sq ft on a 4000 sq ft lot with no garage is luxury, yes sir ree!
California is garbage. And the housing stock is trash. And it cant be rebuilt due to zoning moronacy and the fact that the land alone will have the morons inside paying the thing off for 40 years.
Bay Area, the most aggressively anti middle class dump in the country. Lots of money, but the opportunity is for the landed gentry and the rentier class. You have to love the most "liberal" area of the country is the one with the most brutal anti middle class disposition and the worst wealth disparity and the worst still extant red-lining. (Bad schools in redline areas and good schools in the sanctioned areas)
bmwman91
2012 May 4, 4:19pm
East bay, violent crime, bad schools, terrible commutes and a feeling of "are we even in the USA?"
yes, lets have bubble 2.0 in the hills where we can get a good whiff of the sweage dump near McCarthy Ranch.
LOL
Now now, the East Bay is really not all like that. It lacks the peninsula's posh douchbaggery and forested hills, but it isn't exactly a cesspool. I rather like Fremont...lots of great trails up in the hills to jog on, although I'll need a hat since it is all grassland!
rooemoore
2012 May 4, 6:22pm
rowemoore,
There is no such thing as "homophobia." That word is a contrived, purely political term.
dunnross
2012 May 4, 9:56pm
Now now, the East Bay is really not all like that. It lacks the peninsula's posh douchbaggery and forested hills, but it isn't exactly a cesspool. I rather like Fremont...lots of great trails up in the hills to jog on, although I'll need a hat since it is all grassland!
I think most parts of Las Vegas have more charm than Fremont.
rootvg
2012 May 5, 5:32am
rowemoore,
There is no such thing as "homophobia." That word is a contrived, purely political term.
The entire homosexual rights agenda is political. The phenomenon itself is a mental disorder and was classified as such by the APA until 1973 when the APA itself was threatened with being sued out of existence.
What other "lifestyle" is characterized by constant emotional instability, anger and childishness? If a two year old acted like that, he'd get punished. If a queer guy or big fat lezzie does it, you give them a government job.
This will sound horrible but I think what we need is another war...a REAL war, a shooting war in which our country and civilization are truly in the balance. If we suddenly have to bring that into focus, we'll get rid of all these distractions. If you're trouble, we'll throw your ass in jail or put you on the front line and let the enemy take care of the problem for us. No politically correct bullshit, no excuses...because there's no time. You straighten up OR ELSE. We did stuff like that before and we might have to do it again.
rootvg
2012 May 5, 6:19am
East bay, violent crime, bad schools, terrible commutes and a feeling of "are we even in the USA?"
yes, lets have bubble 2.0 in the hills where we can get a good whiff of the sweage dump near McCarthy Ranch.
Alamo, Danville and San Ramon aren't like that, not even close.
Dublin and Pleasanton are becoming very Asian these days but they're still nice places to live if you aren't as sensitive to that sort of thing.
What other "lifestyle" is characterized by constant emotional instability, anger and childishness? If a two year old acted like that, he'd get punished. If a queer guy or big fat lezzie does it, you give them a government job.
Don't feed the adolescent hate rant trolls. This used to be a great RE blog. It will be again when this type of hate dribble, which has NOTHING to do with RE, is marginalized.
rootvg
2012 May 5, 9:33am
What other "lifestyle" is characterized by constant emotional instability, anger and childishness? If a two year old acted like that, he'd get punished. If a queer guy or big fat lezzie does it, you give them a government job.
Don't feed the adolescent hate rant trolls. This used to be a great RE blog. It will be again when this type of hate dribble, which has NOTHING to do with RE, is marginalized.
I'm not going anywhere.
I'm gonna be RIGHT HERE.
freak80
2012 May 5, 11:58am
There's a big difference between genuine hatred and mere disapproval.
Why did the whole "gay" thing even become a political issue? If I remember right, this whole fight was started by demands for gay "marriage" and not by the "traditional values" folks.
If it weren't for this issue, Kerry probably would have won in 2004 and we wouldn't have had 4 more years of Bush's inept leadership.
Bigsby
2012 May 5, 12:19pm
The entire homosexual rights agenda is political. The phenomenon itself is a mental disorder and was classified as such by the APA until 1973 when the APA itself was threatened with being sued out of existence.
What other "lifestyle" is characterized by constant emotional instability, anger and childishness? If a two year old acted like that, he'd get punished. If a queer guy or big fat lezzie does it, you give them a government job.
This will sound horrible but I think what we need is another war...a REAL war, a shooting war in which our country and civilization are truly in the balance. If we suddenly have to bring that into focus, we'll get rid of all these distractions. If you're trouble, we'll throw your ass in jail or put you on the front line and let the enemy take care of the problem for us. No politically correct bullshit, no excuses...because there's no time. You straighten up OR ELSE. We did stuff like that before and we might have to do it again.
You really are a pathetic homophobic and racist low-life.
Bigsby
2012 May 5, 12:21pm
What other "lifestyle" is characterized by constant emotional instability, anger and childishness? If a two year old acted like that, he'd get punished. If a queer guy or big fat lezzie does it, you give them a government job.
Don't feed the adolescent hate rant trolls. This used to be a great RE blog. It will be again when this type of hate dribble, which has NOTHING to do with RE, is marginalized.
I'm not going anywhere.
I'm gonna be RIGHT HERE.
Yes, and clearly proud of your utter stupidity.
rootvg
2012 May 5, 12:29pm
There's a big difference between genuine hatred and mere disapproval.
Why did the whole "gay" thing even become a political issue? If I remember right, this whole fight was started by demands for gay "marriage" and not by the "traditional values" folks.
If it weren't for this issue, Kerry probably would have won in 2004 and we wouldn't have had 4 more years of Bush's inept leadership.
Ohio put a gay marriage question on the ballot in 2004 and all the old people turned out, just as they have a Right To Work law on the ballot this year and expect a similar turnout. Had that not happened, John Kerry would have won. We know it for a fact.
My point is and will continue to be that homosexuals will NEVER be happy. Today they want to legalize homosexual marriage. Tomorrow they'll want to force churches to accept them and mainline clergy to perform the services. The day after that they'll want it taught as "normal" to schoolchildren, and we've already seen that in California because Sac is controlled by the liberals and gays are increasingly influential in the Democratic party because they donate large sums of money to liberal causes. They seek to corrupt every single traditional values institution we have and it's based on anger. ALL OF IT.
It's a disorder. It was always a disorder...the orientation and the accompanying emotional instability and the anger and the lack of focus and the childishness and on and on and on. That's why it took years before they were eligible for security clearances.
They're NOT stable. They will never be stable.
Bigsby
2012 May 5, 12:31pm
Bigsby, that's just name-calling.
It's called facts. He is a racist and a homophobe. Name-calling has nothing to do with it, and if you don't see that, then what can I say? It's about time people on this forum, Patrick namely, dealt with him. His posts are utterly unacceptable.
Bigsby
2012 May 5, 12:33pm
It's a disorder. It was always a disorder...the orientation and the accompanying emotional instability and the anger and the lack of focus and the childishness and on and on and on. That's why it took years before they were eligible for security clearances.
They're NOT stable. They will never be stable.
Complete and utter bollocks.
rootvg
2012 May 5, 12:40pm
Bigsby, that's just name-calling.
Do you realize that if one of them held a pilot's license and went divergent on all three axes like that in front of an FAA Authorized Medical Examiner, the FAA would pull his medical? Why? Because it indicates a lack of emotional stability especially under stress. It means there's something wrong and they shouldn't be trusted behind the yoke of an aircraft.
Personally, I wouldn't let them drive...for the same reason.
rootvg
2012 May 5, 12:44pm
He is a racist and a homophobe
The above is a prime example of name-calling.
The more he goes off like that, the more he proves my point.
If he shuts up and stops behaving like a child, he might begin to have a point.
freak80
2012 May 5, 12:44pm
Tomorrow they'll want to force churches to accept them and mainline clergy to perform the services. The day after that they'll want it taught as "normal" to schoolchildren
Aren't they already doing this?
freak80
2012 May 5, 12:51pm
The more he goes off like that, the more he proves my point.
That's kind of what I was thinking, yes.
Why can't we just go back to the way it was before 2004 when there was genuine "tolerance" of homosexual behavior w/o the attempts to force others to accept it? There's a big difference between tolerating something and accepting/promoting it.
Bigsby
2012 May 5, 12:51pm
He is a racist and a homophobe
The above is a prime example of name-calling.
It isn't name-calling to state that a racist and a homophobe is a racist and a homophobe. Perhaps you need to focus a little bit more on what root is saying rather than responding like that. Unless of course, you share his moronic views.
Bigsby
2012 May 5, 12:55pm
He is a racist and a homophobe
The above is a prime example of name-calling.
The more he goes off like that, the more he proves my point.
If he shuts up and stops behaving like a child, he might begin to have a point.
Go off like what? I stated what you clearly are. You have made some outrageous statements on here. Not just once or twice, but again and again. And your crap is getting more and more brazen as time goes by. You need to take a good hard look at yourself.
rootvg
2012 May 5, 12:55pm
Tomorrow they'll want to force churches to accept them and mainline clergy to perform the services. The day after that they'll want it taught as "normal" to schoolchildren
Aren't they already doing this?
I haven't heard of a situation where they've actually been successful in forcing Christian clergy to perform gay marriages against their will...yet. I know they're working on it.
The Methodists and Episcopalians are already accepting gay clergy. The Methodists fought it and lost. The Episcopalians were always more liberal and have been doing it for awhile. The Episcopal church in America and the Anglicans in Canada and Church of England are all basically the same. At least one of the officiating clergymen at the last royal wedding was homosexual. Things are different over there.
I heard somewhere that the next target was the Lutherans but knowing what I know about those people, I'd say it'll be a very long time before they succeed there. The WELS Lutherans I know here are some of the most politically and social conservative people I know anywhere. We got invited to one of their weddings over in Sacramento and it was like a scene from of Deliverance. *I* felt like the liberal and among those people I probably was.
What's the difference between an Episcopalian and a Catholic? Fifty grand a year!
Bigsby
2012 May 5, 12:57pm
racist and a homophobe
his moronic views
Yawn. There you go again.
Yes, well done. If these are the only responses you are going to make to his clearly racist and homophobic bullshit, then that speaks volumes for your attitude.
freak80
2012 May 5, 1:03pm
The WELS Lutherans I know here are some of the most politically and social conservative people I know anywhere. We got invited to one of their weddings over in Sacramento and it was like a scene from of Deliverance. *I* felt like the liberal and among those people I probably was.
I believe it. I personally think the WELS and LCMS people are crazy. They both believe the earth is only 6-10 thousand years old and believe any less-than-literal interpretation of the early chapters of Genesis is an outright attack on Christianity. Unfortunately it looks like the more "liberal" ELCA is becoming just another subsidiary of the "Church of Oprah"
rootvg
2012 May 5, 1:03pm
The more he goes off like that, the more he proves my point.
That's kind of what I was thinking, yes.
Why can't we just go back to the way it was before 2004 when there was genuine "tolerance" of homosexual behavior w/o the attempts to force others to accept it? There's a big difference between tolerating something and accepting/promoting it.
It goes back before that. I was part of one of those conservative student newspapers in the eighties and we published something (can't remember what, it's been too many years) that stirred up one of the local queer activists on campus. I heard later on from someone in the dorms that he had made physical threats against me but it was a conservative school (still is today, in some ways even more so) and I had friends in high places so he agreed to go back into his hole and I agreed to quit beating him whenever his head popped up which it no longer did. Last I heard, he's a social worker somewhere in the midwest.
rootvg
2012 May 5, 1:07pm
The WELS Lutherans I know here are some of the most politically and social conservative people I know anywhere. We got invited to one of their weddings over in Sacramento and it was like a scene from of Deliverance. *I* felt like the liberal and among those people I probably was.
I believe it. I personally think the WELS and LCMS people are crazy. They both believe the earth is only 6-10 thousand years old and believe any less-than-literal interpretation of the early chapters of Genesis is an outright attack on Christianity. Unfortunately it looks like the more "liberal" ELCA is becoming just another subsidiary of the "Church of Oprah"
I have to admit, they were some of THE nicest people I had ever met. The one guy was a languages grad student at Berkeley and I offered to take him for an airplane ride after I got my license, which isn't exactly cheap. He was a nice guy and I wanted to get to know him and his wife but no dice. I was a little too wild and crazy for them.
freak80
2012 May 5, 1:07pm
Yes, well done. If these are the only responses you are going to make to his clearly racist and homophobic bullshit, then that speaks volumes for your attitude.
First: the subject of race never came up. At all. Zero, zilch, nada.
Second: I really don't detect an extreme fear of homosexual behavior in rootvg's comments, just disapproval of attempts to force its acceptance on the unwilling.
Third: why do you care what rootvg thinks? He/She is just a stranger on the internet. So am I. Live and let live.
rootvg
2012 May 5, 1:13pm
Yes, well done. If these are the only responses you are going to make to his clearly racist and homophobic bullshit, then that speaks volumes for your attitude.
First: the subject of race never came up. At all. Zero, zilch, nada.
Second: I really don't detect an extreme fear of homosexual behavior in rootvg's comments, just disapproval of attempts to force it's acceptance on the unwilling.
Third: why do you care what rootvg thinks? He/She is just a stranger on the internet. So am I. Live and let live.
Do you remember what I said about the lack of emotional stability, the lack of control and focus? Do you remember what I said about them going instantly divergent on all three axes the second they hear something that doesn't quite hit them right?
Right there it is...for the whole world to see. That's not normal. No one in my family does that. No one in my wife's family does that. No one I've ever flown with does that. No instructor or medical examiner I've ever known does that. The guy who tutored me for my written, has taught flying for fifty years and writes books for the flying community does not do that...
...but THEY DO. There's something wrong and they want US to accept their particular brand of pathological behavior as "normal" when it clearly isn't.
Are we really going to let them tell us that two and two are five?
Bigsby
2012 May 5, 1:15pm
Yes, well done. If these are the only responses you are going to make to his clearly racist and homophobic bullshit, then that speaks volumes for your attitude.
First: the subject of race never came up. At all. Zero, zilch, nada.
Second: I really don't detect an extreme fear of homosexual behavior in rootvg's comments, just disapproval of attempts to force it's acceptance on the unwilling.
Third: why do you care what rootvg thinks? He/She is just a stranger on the internet. So am I. Live and let live.
Rootvg posts racist comments about Asians all the time. Are your eyes that closed?
And as for your other comments, you are joking, right? Homosexuality is a mental disorder etc.. etc.. His comments are blatantly homophobic.
And why exactly should it be live and let live with such comments. They deserve a response. A blunt response. They have no place here. If he wants to make them, then he should bugger off to a right-wing forum or some such where he's sure to find plenty of like-minded souls. This is a RE forum, not a place for him to air his bigoted views.
Bigsby
2012 May 5, 1:18pm
Do you remember what I said about the lack of emotional stability, the lack of control and focus? Do you remember what I said about them going instantly divergent on all three axes the second they hear something that doesn't quite hit them right?
Right there it is...for the whole world to see. That's not normal. No one in my family does that. No one in my wife's family does that. No one I've ever flown with does that. No instructor or medical examiner I've ever known does that. The guy who tutored me for my written, has taught flying for fifty years and writes books for the flying community does not do that...
...but THEY DO. There's something wrong and they want US to accept their particular brand of pathological behavior as "normal" when it clearly isn't.
Are we really going to let them tell us that two and two are five?
You see, there you go. Your bigoted views automatically lead you to that kind of response. I'm not gay. I've been married for 10 years. That doesn't mean I can't see you for what you are.
freak80
2012 May 5, 1:52pm
Most of rootvg's comments about Asians have been positive, have they not? Like saying Asian immigrants in the US place a very high value on education, for example.
As for the assertion that homosexual behavior is a disorder, the APA said the same thing until the whole "gay movement" began. I'm not a psychologist so I really can't say which view is "correct."
rootvg
2012 May 5, 1:55pm
Most of rootvg's comments about Asians have been positive, have they not? Like saying Asian immigrants in the US place a very high value on education, for example.
As for the assertion that homosexual behavior is a disorder, the APA said the same thing until the whole "gay movement" began. I'm not a psychologist so I really can't say which view is "correct."
The psychologist will determine what's correct and what isn't on the basis of who's paying the bill and who is or isn't threatening to sue them out of existence. That's what the changes in DSM III were all about.
freak80
2012 May 5, 1:58pm
The psychologist will determine what's correct and what isn't on the basis of who's paying the bill and who is or isn't threatening to sue them out of existence.
lol. Probably true.
Psychologist: "So how does that make you feel?"
Patient: "Are you talking about the bill or the condition I came to see you about?"
freak80
2012 May 5, 2:00pm
That seems to be what contemporary America is all about: money = truth.
Truth, justice, values, religion, etc are sold to the highest bidder.
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