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56   leo707   2012 Apr 19, 7:17am  

wthrfrk80 says

leoj707 says

Why do you continue to choose to live your life?

I've been asking myself that question a lot lately.

Well, OK then your comments make more sense.

Death, pain, suffering are all part of life. I accept that and as much as it may add additional pain to my life I accept that my children are going to have to experience them as well.

In spite of this life is a beautiful thing…

Love, happiness, hope are all also a part of life.

Humans could build a better world that limits suffering and increases joy. We seem to be currently choosing to go another route. Hopefully the people that I add to the mix help to nudge humanity in a better direction.

57   RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks   2012 Apr 19, 7:20am  

LOL @ the buyer remorse in this thread.

58   freak80   2012 Apr 19, 7:24am  

leoj707 says

Well, OK then your comments make more sense.

What do you mean by that?

59   leo707   2012 Apr 19, 7:33am  

wthrfrk80 says

What do you mean by that?

I mean that it is unsurprising that a person who is questioning whether they should choose to go on living would reason that the inevitability of death is the reason new life should not start.

60   Vicente   2012 Apr 19, 7:39am  

bmwman91 says

$10k, cash, for anyone on welfare that goes in for voluntary sterilization. Inmates that are serving time for non-violent crimes are also eligible. The benefits won't arrive for 12-20 years, but they surely will.

Why be so specific? This is America, we are supposed to be egalitarian. Offer it to anyone. If you are going to discriminate IMO you'd have to include huge bonus for OctoMom or Kardashians, and particularly bigger fish like white collar criminals who cause much more damage than some pothead. But I don't see the point in that.

You are a college kid who wants to make tuition and are sure you never want children? Fine, here's your money thanks for removing your contribution to the gene pool.

61   freak80   2012 Apr 19, 8:13am  

leoj707 says

the inevitability of death is the reason new life should not start.

It certainly isn't the only reason.

62   everything   2012 Apr 19, 8:49am  

Both kids and the girl to go along are kinda expensive all by themselves. They call it the two income trap.

63   clambo   2012 Apr 19, 8:55am  

Kids bring intangible benefits to their parents if the kids turn out into nice adults. This of course it the hope of all parents.
A guy has to be stable, successful, make a great living and be fearless in the face of divorce, financial ruin, and all the rest of it. It takes a certain kind of bravery that many no longer have.
The several times I was about to marry some job change or other circumstance put the kibosh on it.
I've even dated a couple of girls in Mexico who actually did NOT want children because they had been forced to care for a couple of very young siblings so they were done with "parenting". Generally it's rare there that an adult has no children. I would be asked "Why don't you have any?" often.
As you age you'll meet many women who have kids already of various ages, and you can get into that milieu if you desire to. They're possibly going to be almost as loyal to you as their biological fathers if you are generous,etc.
My friend worries constantly about his adult children, as does my older brother. He often says he must work forever because of his kids.
Another friend of mine moved to a very undesireable state for a job simply so he could keep paying his adult children's tuition and grad school. He was actually well off enough to retire early.
Those who do not have children will maybe say they are happy to have the money instead, but probably it's only a rationalization.

64   freak80   2012 Apr 19, 9:05am  

leoj707 says

Love, happiness, hope are all also a part of life.

For some people. Certainly not for everyone.

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