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Kevin says

The Romney/Ryan plan to 'fix' entitlements was to let old people die.

Do you have a way to NOT let old people die? Have you defeated old age? I thought tax and death are the only certainties in life.

Peter P says

Kevin says

The Romney/Ryan plan to 'fix' entitlements was to let old people die.

Do you have a way to NOT let old people die? Have you defeated old age? I thought tax and death are the only certainties in life.

I'm all for people over the age of 65 dying. Starting with MIttens.

I am a huge supporter of universal healthcare, but end-of-life care needs to be looked at. Perhaps individuals past a certain age should pay for such care out-of-pocket?

Kevin says

The Romney/Ryan plan to 'fix' entitlements was to let old people die.

Lie and propaganda. They wanted to keep the current programs for people over 55 years old and make substantial changes for younger people. I know I'm paying to SS which I never see when I retire or it won't look like it suppose to. It is a complete waist of my money and money of my employer.

Obamaphones?

Try Bushphones.

The program started about 10 years ago under W. TracFone Wireless, out of Miami, Fla, runs the program which provides one hour (usually) a month free phone service for needy people. Not paid for or supported by taxpayer dollars!

Peter P says

I am a huge supporter of universal healthcare, but end-of-life care needs to be looked at. Perhaps individuals past a certain age should pay for such care out-of-pocket?

Families don't want to pull that plug on granny. It shouldn't be a decision made by the government either.

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says

Romney was simply not conservative enough and needed to get back to old fashioned values, say, by declaring himself pharaoh and demanding that Obama be thrown into a volcano and driving around the country and jerking off into grain silos. Then people would understand his commitment to traditional values.

They say he was 'a moderate' republican or RINO. He still believed in the bigger government than libertarians or conservatives. Progressives called them flip-flopper. I think he was rather pragmatist, than ideologue. Some say he was 'Mr. Fix-it" too much. I don't know, he was fine to me. I prefer CEO type over any lawyer or 'community organizer'.

GraooGra says

121212 says

Bush got a larger percentage of the Mormon vote!

Did you see the election day figures? or you don't like math?

It doesn't matter. Hillary is going to be an unimpressive dinosaur 4 years from now.

Oh my, did you see the GOP 2012 primaries. Or perhaps the 2008 GOP primaries.

John McCain was how old?
Mitt Romney is how old?
Newt, Herman, Ron Paul, HOW OLD?

You should quit while your taking it from behind GraooGra , as usual.

GraooGra says

Lie and propaganda. They wanted to keep the current programs for people over 55 years old and make substantial changes for younger people. I know I'm paying to SS which I never see when I retire or it won't look like it suppose to. It is a complete waist of my money and money of my employer.

Lies and propaganda from whom? The Republicans.

I take it you disagree with the NUN's on the road?

Of course you do.

Actually everyone would have been affected by Ryans BULLSHIT Voucher program and a defunding of Medicare.GraooGra says

SS, It is a complete waist of my money and money of my employer.

Maybe you would prefer Bush to have privatized SSl in 2006 and have lost it all in the 2008 crash. Remember that!

What a short memory fools have. It must make it easier voting for these idiots.GraooGra says

Families don't want to pull that plug on granny. It shouldn't be a decision made by the government either.

And neither should trans vaginal ultra sounds or banning abortions with bullshit regulations created to close abortion clinics but that didn't stop your party doing it 1100 times.

GraooGra says

I think he was rather pragmatist, than ideologue.

OH MY GOD!! Your a moron!

Romney, A pragmatist. an Ideologue? LMFAO!!Your joking!

You picked two words Romney wouldn't use for himself.

What parallel universe do you exist in?

Corporations are people my friend.

Romney, Im Pro Choice and Pro Life depending on which election I am running in.
(hows that for ideology)

I'm for Gays "until" I run in a Republican race!

Pragmatist, PLEASE!

You make yourself look pathetic with these obviously failed arguments.

GraooGra says

Progressives called them flip-flopper

He was , he is, He's DONE!

GraooGra says

. Some say he was 'Mr. Fix-it" too much. I don't know, he was fine to me. I prefer CEO type over any lawyer or 'community organizer'.

Your an idiot and the public could see straight through the lies. He never fixes shit! At no point in the election did anyone think what you are posting!

Delusional fool.

GraooGra says

I prefer CEO type over any lawyer or 'community organizer'.

Why? There is no evidence he was a business man or CEO type, he showed ZERO business skills during the debate.

He couldn't run fast enough away from his failed leadership at Bain.

He may have made money but do you care HOW?

I guess you don't, you see the public knew and Romney didn't even rebut the argument that he was a CORPORATE RAIDER!

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says

Romney was simply not conservative

Bullshit, he wasn't centrist enough! He didn't tact to the middle.

What was the last election Romney won?

GraooGra says

You are really orwellian. Destroyer of 'Pensions and jobs', sorry pensions are thing of the past, unsustainable and reorganizing corporations so they are economically sound sometimes requries reorganizing and letting some employees go.

Do you work for Bain or the Kochs! or in a parallel universe?

GraooGra says

try just to kick the can down

Who? You fuckers keep doing this, fuck you!

GraooGra says

Romney/Ryan at least have had some program to fix these entitlements, cut spending

Get over it, thy lost and the were AWFUL!
Obama won , his plan is better and the people voted for him.
Ryans plan was FUCK the middle class and poor and give millionaires $180K taccut while letting the people starve and the sick die!

That your idea of a plan!

No wonder your failed parties will never see the inside of the White house for 20yrs.

GraooGra says

Some say he was 'Mr. Fix-it" too much

Who, nobody, that's who! Wow your still carrying this from the election.
You still have no answers! You idiot.

GraooGra says

Again, it doesn't matter. Truth is the truth. People 'cannot handle the truth' just yet.

It does matter, if you continue with your failed ideas you will have no say at the grown up table. You have no chance of the White House for a decade.
Your ideas are failures. You have no leadership, you have no clue,

I know the truth, do you?

The elites crashed the economy, after blowing it up. The government bailed them out and they made more money than ever while refusing to hire. The government had to step in and help the poor and middle class so they wouldn't collapse under the weight of the failed property market, they continue to help the unemployed and underemployed.

Your side wants to end this support while taking more and more CORPORATE WELFARE EACH AND EVERY YEAR! Your party couldn't get a vote on any BULLSHIT IDEAS. Firstly they have ZERO balanced approach, its extremism at its worst., you have no idea of any other fixes, that would include the poor and middle class all you have to offer is just end support for the poor and middle class!

and you want to fuck the poor and middle class!

Well FUCK YOU!

You lost the election. That's what it was about.

Your side needs to stop taking hostages and get some leaders!

The problem with Republicans is that no one can believe them. Take Tea Party Queen Sarah Palin-small govt champion and lover of freedom and representive of all things Americans. In her half term as Governor, she raised taxes on corporations and gave out free cash to every Alaskan-just for being an Alaskan.

Or Paul Ryan, small govt hero-slayer of big gubmnt. He has voted for pretty much every big gubmnt program known to man-No child left behind, Medicare expansion, the 700 billion TARP, auto bailout etc. etc.

To me , if I were a pure conservative, I would never accept these critters as my representative. It is not a he said, he said-it is on record. Why continue to accept these charlatans as conservative champions???

lostand confused says

To me , if I were a pure conservative, I would never accept these critters as my representative.

What happens to the country if the tea party takes the house leadership?

121212 says

lostand confused says

To me , if I were a pure conservative, I would never accept these critters as my representative.

What happens to the country if the tea party takes the house leadership?

That would be scary. They consistently backed idjits. For example Sarah Palin, Paul Ryan, Chritine O'Donnell(of I am not a witch fame), Todd Akin and other such crazies. They seem to be swayed by rhetoric and not reality.

How you can accept Palin, the woman who raised taxes on big corporations and gave out free cash to the masses-I think that is socialism??- as the chief of the Tea Party is beyond me. But it seems they believe words speak louder than actions. Not the other way around and this creates a fertile ground for smooth talking chamelons-which could be very dangerous if elected in large numbers.

lostand confused says

hat would be scary. They consistently backed idjits. For example Sarah Palin, Paul Ryan, Chritine O'Donnell(of I am not a witch fame), Todd Akin and other such crazies. They seem to be swayed by rhetoric and not reality.

There are 40 or so of them in the House! They seem to be led by Rookie Rand Paul!

I honestly don't think they have a leader outside of the Koch Brothers tell them to do.

121212 says

GraooGra says

try just to kick the can down

Who? You fuckers keep doing this, fuck you!

There is no point of discussion with you. You only repeat talking points of leftists like a parrot. You are unstable. Get lost.