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The Republicans will massacre each other after Mitt Romney loses


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2012 Sep 29, 8:14am   18,096 views  49 comments

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http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danhodges/100183156/the-republicans-will-massacre-each-other-after-mitt-romney-loses/

This week it was announced that Mormon supporters of Mitt Romney are promoting a day of mass fasting and prayer to seek divine help for the Republican candidate in the upcoming Presidential debates. He’ll need it

Dan Hodges is a Blairite cuckoo in the Miliband nest. He has worked for the Labour Party, the GMB trade union and managed numerous independent political campaigns. He writes about Labour with tribal loyalty and without reservation.

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29   JohnLaw   2012 Sep 30, 9:09am  

CaptainShuddup says

Conservatives have/had the financial sector and religion.

I think the financial sector has captured both parties (Robert Rubin, Barney Frank, Christopher Dodd). Lets face it, they could not have pulled off the biggest heist in the history of the world without complete control of the government. As for religion, I think its mixed. Most mainstream religions are split. Its only the religious right that has taken root in some conservative circles. A lot of conservatives are not comfortable with their influence. The area you didn't mention is the military industrial complex. That seems to be both parties gig. The neocons are the worst war mongers but it seems that everyone loves a good war.

30   JohnLaw   2012 Sep 30, 9:13am  


So then you and the billionaires would be on the same footing? No, you wouldn't.

There are already limits on the amounts of individual contributions, I'm not advocating eliminating them. Also, I just wanted to clarify one point about a "democracy". We were founded as a Republic, not a democracy. I think that is an important distinction.

http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/contriblimits.shtml

31   marcus   2012 Oct 1, 1:10am  

JohnLaw says

lso, I just wanted to clarify one point about a "democracy". We were founded as a Republic, not a democracy.

The two are not mutually exclusive. The US is supposed to be a republic that is a democracy. You know, "of the people, by the people, for the people."

Things have moved steadily even more toward: by the rich and the corporations for the rich and the corporations.

32   37108605   2012 Oct 1, 3:28am  

Politicofact says

Reader says

Ceffer says

When Obama loses the reins of power, the facade will crumble because the media machine that protects him now will be free to "expose" him with impunity for the falsehoods that they knew all along.

You mean like the way the "LEFT or RIGHT MEDIA" exposed George Bush's 8yrs of misery? I don't think so.

You see , your wrong.

As you clearly have a belief, also understand and accept that there are people who do not believe with you. We too have a belief that we will follow ruthlessly and faithlessly to our graves.

33   Politicofact   2012 Oct 1, 3:33am  

Your parties beliefs are consistently based in fiction

THE ONLY BELIEF YOU HAVE IS THAT YOU ARE RIGHT!

34   37108605   2012 Oct 1, 3:34am  

Politicofact says

Your parties beliefs are consistently based in fiction

THE ONLY BELIEF YOU HAVE IS THAT YOU ARE RIGHT!

You are to me a sad piece of work.

35   Politicofact   2012 Oct 1, 3:36am  

Reader says

Politicofact says

Your parties beliefs are consistently based in fiction

THE ONLY BELIEF YOU HAVE IS THAT YOU ARE RIGHT!

You are to me a sad piece of work.

Reader

TROLL

36   Politicofact   2012 Oct 1, 3:37am  

You cannot even perceive your own cognitive dissidence

37   Politicofact   2012 Oct 1, 3:39am  

Why is this post full of TROLLS

38   leo707   2012 Oct 1, 3:47am  

JohnLaw says

Marcus, the use of ad hominen attacks clearly betrays your complete lack of intellect.

If you say so...

JohnLaw says

useful idiots like Politicofact

JohnLaw says

you PoliticoCommie.

39   Politicofact   2012 Oct 1, 3:48am  

leo707 Get lost TROLL

40   leo707   2012 Oct 1, 3:56am  

Politicofact says

Mormon supporters of Mitt Romney are promoting a day of mass fasting and prayer to seek divine help for the Republican candidate in the upcoming Presidential debates.

This is actually great news for Obama.

I am sure that these Mormons have been praying all along for a Romney win, but now trying to organize mass prayer smacks of desperation. When desperate people are praying that means that they have run out of actually useful ways of affecting the situation. In this case it probably means that Romney's Mormon money well is running dry.

It is also amusing that they did not consider that fact that news on mass amounts of Mormons praying for a candidate to win will probably turn off many voters.

41   leo707   2012 Oct 1, 3:58am  

Politicofact says

leo707 Get lost TROLL

And pray tell how do you see me as trolling you?

I am all ears and eagerly await your reply.

42   Politicofact   2012 Oct 1, 4:00am  

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/jesus-could-be-their-cand_b_1927406.html

Jesus Could Be Their Candidate and the Republicans Would Still Lose

43   curious2   2012 Oct 1, 4:46am  

leo707 says

I am sure that these Mormons have been praying all along for a Romney win, but now trying to organize mass prayer smacks of desperation. When desperate people are praying that means that they have run out of actually useful ways of affecting the situation. In this case it probably means that Romney's Mormon money well is running dry.

Some of their motivations may be complex. Romney's own money is not tapped out, and Thomas Monson controls literally billions of $ directly, plus probably billions of $ indirectly. From their perspective, this campaign may be about positioning Romney's cult to poach followers from "less demanding faiths," part of a larger pattern worldwide. Sure Romney would probably like to be President, so he can bully people all over the world, but the next few years are going to be difficult anyway so his cult may be better off being able to lead interfaith prayer sessions and saying that "none of these bad things would have happened if Romney had won." If they lose the election, they can blame their favorite villains, whether "the liberal media" or illegal aliens impersonating voters. Right now, they are forming bonds in the trenches, probably lifelong bonds, so that they will be welcomed into the world of American religious fundamentalism. It is very much like the Onion article, except it isn't a joke.

44   Tenpoundbass   2012 Oct 1, 5:00am  

Reader says

You are to me a sad piece of work.

I assume you mean the Tampa Times news organization that he is here to represent.

http://www.politifact.com/
http://www.tampabay.com

leo707 says

And pray tell how do you see me as trolling you?

I am all ears and eagerly await your reply.

That idiot is just shooting and taking potshots at everyone. He's doing the Liberal Lords work and anyone that questions his authority is obviously a heretic and a prime candidate to be tossed off the Liberal sacrificial fiscal cliff.

45   leo707   2012 Oct 1, 5:03am  

curious2 says

Romney's own money is not tapped out, and Thomas Monson controls literally billions of $ directly, plus probably billions of $ indirectly.

True, true, but I was referring to the Mormons who would be dipping into their kids college funds to help make the next US president a Mormon.

curious2 says

From their perspective, this campaign may be about positioning Romney's cult to poach followers from "less demanding faiths," part of a larger pattern worldwide.

For most Mormons I think that it all boils down to an increasing appearance of legitimacy in the eyes of others. Of course this in turn would result in easier recruitment.

curious2 says

...his cult may be better off being able to lead interfaith prayer sessions.... Right now, they are forming bonds in the trenches, probably lifelong bonds, so that they will be welcomed into the world of American religious fundamentalism.

Early on in the primary process Mormons were encouraged to "reach out" (attend a Catholic Mass, etc.) to people in other faiths in an effort to appear "normal."

Mormon scripture directly calls other faiths abominations and their leaders corrupt, so outreach is going to be difficult. However, it would not be unprecedented for the Mormon prophet to do something like declare that other faiths are no longer abominations, and even just re-release the Pearl of Great Price with the offending text changed or missing.

46   leo707   2012 Oct 1, 5:05am  

CaptainShuddup says

He's doing the Liberal Lords work and anyone that questions his authority is obviously a heretic and a prime candidate to be tossed off the Liberal sacrificial fiscal cliff.

Yeah, but I did not even question his/her *er* "authority."

CaptainShuddup says

That idiot is just shooting and taking potshots at everyone.

Seems so.

47   Politicofact   2012 Oct 1, 5:22am  

Mitt Romney's Real Agenda its all about BUSH!

If you want to understand Romney's game plan, just look at what Republicans have been doing in Congress

The GOP legislation awaiting Romney's signature isn't simply a return to the era of George W. Bush. From abortion rights and gun laws to tax giveaways and energy policy, it's far worse. Measures that have already sailed through the Republican House would roll back clean-air protections, gut both Medicare and Medicaid, lavish trillions in tax cuts on billionaires while raising taxes on the poor, and slash everything from college aid to veteran benefits. In fact, the tenets of Ryan Republicanism are so extreme that they even offend the pioneers of trickle-down economics. "Ryan takes out the ax and goes after programs for the poor – which is the last thing you ought to cut," says David Stockman, who served as Ronald Reagan's budget director. "It's ideology run amok."

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/mitt-romneys-real-agenda-20120928#ixzz284oZ5Kql

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/mitt-romneys-real-agenda-20120928#ixzz284oShuuB

48   JohnLaw   2012 Oct 1, 7:31am  

marcus says

The two are not mutually exclusive. The US is supposed to be a republic that is a democracy. You know, "of the people, by the people, for the people."

They are mutually exclusive. A Republic is guided by the rule of law, a democracy rule of the mob.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/KFXuGIpsdE0

49   Nobody   2012 Oct 2, 6:24am  

What is this still "if"? Those of you who are still pondering the possibility of Romney becoming a president; here is the news. He is not going to be one. It is a done deal, thank you very much.

Or you are just milking it, cause there isn't really much to talk about Rombey's campaign.

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