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freak80 says

Atheist fanatics and religious fanatics. Cut from the same cloth.

In the same way that peace fanatics and war fanatics are cut from the same cloth.

Yep, cut from the same cloth.

Welp that settles it, there's an internet meme pictorial to illustrate the point. Thread closed.

CaptainShuddup says

Welp that settles it, there's an internet meme pictorial to illustrate the point. Thread closed.

There's plenty of photographic and video evidence that shows religious inspired violence. If you like, I could post gigabytes of it.

There is no evidence ever of violence committed in the name of atheism. 'Nuff said.

God is a dead man, we like dead things, we kill everything we eat, we all gonna die someday, it's a natural phenomena, may as well surround your pitiful little temporary place here on earth with it

Dan said, "There is no evidence ever of violence committed in the name of atheism. 'Nuff said."

I'm calling bullshiz on that. Some of the worst crimes against humanity this past century were committed by atheists against people with faith.
Stalin had his purges, tens of millions sent to Siberia to die because they wanted to keep their faith rather than accept the party line.
Mao was famous for his "cultural revolution" where all traces of Christian faith were eliminated along with any other religious symbols or practitioners not allowed by his atheist government.

The horrors of atheism are well demonstrated. It's a religion, same as any other, but tends to be more fanatic with little to no checks on what its adherents will do to advance their cause.
It's no accident that atheists are regarded with more suspicion than child molesters. I consider child molesters the lowest form of human, but I guess not everyone agrees.

Quigley says

I'm calling bullshiz on that. Some of the worst crimes against humanity this past century were committed by atheists against people with faith.
Stalin had his purges, tens of millions sent to Siberia to die because they wanted to keep their faith rather than accept the party line.
Mao was famous for

Of course you do. Idiots always call bullshit when I say that atheism hasn't been the cause of mass deaths, and the fools always use the same examples of Stalin and Mao. So I have to repeat the same counter-argument a thousand times because the religious never learn from their mistakes.

As I stated in this thread...

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Every time atheists show that history is full of examples of religion being used to justify evil and that Christian history in particular has no gaps between its acts of evil, the religious always try to point to Communism as the one and only example of atheists doing bad things.

Yes, I will concede that atheists can do evil. No crap. Statistically, they are far less likely. Furthermore, Stalin and Mao did not do evil because they are atheists, but rather because they are dictators. To argue that Stalin was evil because he was an atheist makes as much sense as arguing that Stalin and Hitler were evil because they both had mustaches. Gee, I guess Charlie Chaplin and Tom Selleck must also be evil bastards.

You can tell he's evil by the mustache.

However, the Spanish Inquisition, the Holocaust, the Crusades, the destruction of the Library of Alexandria, the murder of Hypatia, and everything else I mentioned was directly and intrinsically motivated by religion. That's the difference.

Stalin was coincidentally an atheist and would have been a fucking asshole even if he was Christian. The motherfuckers in the Inquisition tortured people directly because of their religion. Totally different. To attempt to imply that Communism is evidence that atheism is bad is disingenuous. To attempt to imply that the Spanish Inquisition is evidence that religion is bad is not.

Yet, I'll have to listen to this false argument again and again for ever because it's the only ammunition the religious have against atheism.

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Next time some fool uses the Stalin/Mao argument, I'm posting bottomless pictures of Tom Selleck. Don't think I'm bluffing. I will. I will totally show you his magnum private eye if anyone ever makes that lame ass argument again.

Your posts are ridiculous, your arguments nonsensical. It's my personal assumption that militant atheists like yourself are that way because they have deep seated sexual issues and feel like God is mad at them over it. The threats to post pictures of man ass just confirm my long-held belief. I suggest therapy to confront anger issues and confused suppositions that are keeping you in a prison of resentment. You've been hurt by people, probably religious people even. But holding onto resentment is like drinking poison and hoping your enemies die of it. Got to learn to let go of the past . . .

Quigley says

The threats to post pictures of man ass just confirm my long-held belief.

If you read the post, it was an offer to post a frontal nude, but in your mind everything confirms your long-held beliefs.

Quigley says

The horrors of atheism are well demonstrated. It's a religion, same as any other, but tends to be more fanatic with little to no checks on what its adherents will do to advance their cause.

This statement is a bit silly.

Assuming that atheism has been the driving force behind said horrors, there is nothing that was done by Stalin or Mao that has not also been done by believers -- of any flavor -- to advance religious causes. The "checks" allegedly put in place by religion have not worked.

curious2 says

If you read the post, it was an offer to post a frontal nude, but in your mind everything confirms your long-held beliefs.

You'll also notice how he equates homosexuality with psychological disorder. That's another way that religion fucks up people's minds and makes them become evil.

Cloud says

Hey Danny, have you ever read anything you've written here on Patrick about Americans, the 99% of the population who are believers?

It's 99% now, is it? More Cloud 'facts' I presume.

CaptainShuddup says

What's wrong with just silently protesting Jesus?

What's wrong with loudly protesting dumb people taking Goat Roaster myths seriously? And mocking those who try to intellectualize and apologize for Goat Roaster myths?

If we need a national mythology, why not Betty Crocker, the Jolly Green Giant, and the Burger King? I can't imagine Saint Betty of Astonishing Pancake Syrup saying she has come to set Father against Son, etc. The Jolly Green Giant can encourage and threaten kids who won't eat their veggies, etc. We can all wash ourselves in Holy Calgone Water. Manny, Moe, and Jack can be the gods of travel, etc. etc. etc.

Quigley says

Your posts are ridiculous, your arguments nonsensical. It's my personal assumption that militant atheists like yourself are that way because they have deep seated sexual issues and feel like God is mad at them over it. The threats to post pictures of man ass just confirm my long-held belief. I suggest therapy to confront anger issues and confused suppositions that are keeping you in a prison of resentment. You've been hurt by people, probably religious people even. But holding onto resentment is like drinking poison and hoping your enemies die of it. Got to learn to let go of the past . . .

Actually, the Original Post explains it: Your deep seated feelings have been rejected.

The shit you say above is the type of shit a spurned woman says about the dude who dumped or rejected her.

"Gotta be something wrong with him sexually."
"Serious Issues"
"Angry at the World"
"Secret evil hearted bastard"

In fact, read Isaiah. THAT book is classic spurned lover. "Thou Israelites are like whores, cheating on me with other lovers." and words to that effect.

Dan, thanks for that rejection video, it's spot on.

leo707 says

Assuming that atheism has been the driving force behind said horrors, there is nothing that was done by Stalin or Mao that has not also been done by believers -- of any flavor -- to advance religious causes. The "checks" allegedly put in place by religion have not worked.

Word. And the fact that people in prison are more religious than the general population doesn't help. Or that everyday we hear about a kid being abused, and it's usually a pastor or priest (and, rumors are flying in Brooklyn, Rabbis).

One question that needs to be asked: Why are so many religious authorities abusers or abuser apologists?
http://patrick.net/?p=1215926

You guys are the Jerry Farwell tent revival of Atheists.

Here's the modern Liberal rewrite of Lennon's Imagine...

Imagine there's no Morons
It's kinda easy if you try, but then it's not.
Because there are morons, and that just tears me up.
You may say that I'm a zealot, but that's just a cop out.
Imagine if we didn't have anything to stand for...
No morals to constrain us, blame the 1% for our failures.
No white middle aged Christians to vote out our heroes.
You may say that I've been watching to much Bill Mahr,
but I'm not the only one.
Hope that someday everyone will be a Liberal, and the world can go to hell as one...

Hell is for Children reprieve...

Because Hell...
Hell!
Hell is for Liberals...

I forgot the righteous guitar solo...

(Insert face melting freak out here)

CaptainShuddup says

Here's the modern Liberal rewrite of Lennon's Imagine...

Wasn't the original version Liberal enough for you, Capt'n?

Cloud says

You are hated because of who you are

Picture of the real Cloud

Cloud says

a small man who has said all Catholic woman are sluts

I see you're still stalking me, loser. Like you are fooling anyone with those lies. Anyone can see how you blantantly lie by reading All Trolls Are Sluts.

Cloud says

he still lives in his parent's basement where he watches porn because the red car isn't working as intended.

1. Just because I rented one of your mom's videos doesn't make me a porn addict.
2. I don't live in the same state as my parents, nonetheless in their basement.
3. There are no basements in Florida, you idiot.
4. My red sports car works perfectly, unlike your penis.
5. I paid my own way through college and have been debt free for fifteen years and make a far nicer living than any loser like you could.
6. You hateful petulance shows exactly why religion, and in particular Christianity, is evil. I attack bad ideas. You attack people. OK, I also attack people when they are complete fucking assholes like you, but even my patience has limits.

Keep up the posts. You make a far better case against your religion than I ever could.

Bigsby says

It's 99% now, is it? More Cloud 'facts' I presume.

Cloud is incapable of getting any facts right. Even a cursory Google search reveals

And if you consider that many people claim to be religious just because of social and political pressure, it's probably a much more agnostic/atheist world.

But even forgetting that, monotheists barely make up half the world's population.

Not that popularity means truth. If anything, the more influence religion has on the world, the greater the need to oppose it.

thunderlips11 says

Actually, the Original Post explains it: Your deep seated feelings have been rejected.

The shit you say above is the type of shit a spurned woman says about the dude who dumped or rejected her.

"Gotta be something wrong with him sexually."
"Serious Issues"
"Angry at the World"
"Secret evil hearted bastard"

In fact, read Isaiah. THAT book is classic spurned lover. "Thou Israelites are like whores, cheating on me with other lovers." and words to that effect.

Dan, thanks for that rejection video, it's spot on.

Yep. Cloud is upset that I called him a slut and sexually rejected him. I was the first adult he ever tried to romantically pursue. Guess it's back to the pedovan for Cloud.

thunderlips11 says

Why are so many religious authorities abusers or abuser apologists?

All Catholic priests are sluts?

Oh no, more ammo for the troll Cloud to take out of context.

thunderlips11 says

Wasn't the original version Liberal enough for you, Capt'n?

That was different era when Liberals respected people.
In the whole song, Lennon never once was condescending, or thought religious people are idiots.

You guys don't really wish for a world with out religion because of the tower babble confusion and conflict. You just want more manageable voter base.

Imagine that!

CaptainShuddup says

You guys are the Jerry Farwell tent revival of Atheists.

Jerry Falwell Quotes

Atheist Quotes

Yeah, totally the same.

CaptainShuddup says

I forgot the righteous guitar solo...

http://www.youtube.com/embed/p7P9j7jwvJQ

Dan8267 says

Atheist Quotes

"When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized that the Lord does not work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me." The attribution says Emo Philips, presumably in jest, but I think Mitt Romney said it and meant it.

CaptainShuddup says

That was different era when Liberals respected people.

1. Hippies aren't liberals.
2. Hippies had no respect for the man or anyone over 30.

CaptainShuddup says

In the whole song, Lennon never once was condescending, or thought religious people are idiots.

1. Most people on the planet are idiots, and those who say otherwise are part of that majority.
2. Pointing out the absurdity of religious doctrine is not an attack on the religious but the religion.
3. There is nothing wrong with attacking those religious who are idiots and are causing irreparable harm to the world. Case in point: G.W. Bush. Remember he said, "God told me to invade Iraq." and then a million people died. Such people should be attacked verbally to prevent others from following their psychopathic ways.
4. Unfortunately, a third of the people in this country support such psychopaths. Hundreds of millions of Middle Eastern men and women also are brainwashed by religion into being violent and dangerous. There is plenty of legitimate reason to oppose religion. Throughout history religion has motivate people to do great evil.

CaptainShuddup says

You guys don't really wish for a world with out religion because of the tower babble confusion and conflict. You just want more manageable voter base.

I certainly don't want people voting for the next Bush because of religion. And I certainly don't want someone who hears an imaginary voice in their head telling them what to do to have his finger on the button.

All it takes is some nutjob president hearing "god" telling him to start a nuclear war and it's game over man.

Dan8267 says

CaptainShuddup says

That was different era when Liberals respected people.

1. Hippies aren't liberals.
2. Hippies had no respect for the man or anyone over 30.

Imagine came out in the 80's, the Hippies morphed into Yuppies by then. There's no damn Hippies with a Manhattan condo on Central park.

Dan8267 says

I certainly don't want people voting for the next Bush because of religion

OK thanks for your honesty, next.

After the religious nut jobs we can run the Country and Western singers out of town on a pole. They can't be trusted either in this agenda of yours.

CaptainShuddup says

Imagine came out in the 80's, the Hippies morphed into Yuppies by then. There's no damn Hippies with a Manhattan condo on Central park.

Most hippies did, true. John Lennon, the king of the hippies, didn't.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/F2ZwJiK0fJ0

CaptainShuddup says

Dan8267 says

I certainly don't want people voting for the next Bush because of religion

OK thanks for your honesty, next.

It's not just honesty. It's a damn good reason to be wary of electing anyone who is religious to the Oval office.

Religion is not rational. Believing in superstitions is delusional. Why would you want anyone who has these characteristics to hold the nuclear codes? We do background checks for jobs. If a job involves having access to nuclear weapons, the background check should include making sure the person doesn't believe in imaginary people with superpowers.

CaptainShuddup says

After the religious nut jobs we can run the Country and Western singers out of town on a pole. They can't be trusted either in this agenda of yours.

I didn't know Taylor Swift committed genocide, tortured Jews until they converted, or flew airplanes into skyscrapers.

Oh, by the way, I listen to Kiss Country south Florida's country music station regularly, and Taylor Swift is my idea of the perfect woman. Guess I don't fit the Straw Man outfit you made for me.

Dan8267 says

Oh, by the way, I listen to Kiss Country

Is it that you like the music, or is an excuse to don the boots and hat?
There's no way in hell you're listening to the words.

Kiss Country plays Delilah in the evenings, and she has a cool program, very spiritual.

But, Kiss Country does not play enough Waylon, Merle, Willy, George Jones, Marty Robbins, Coe, Lefty, Cash, Straight, Loretta, Tammy, or Moe Bandy. In my opinion.

The best new talent is Jamey Johnson.

CaptainShuddup says

Is it that you like the music, or is an excuse to don the boots and hat?

You got me. Here's a shot of me with my posse.

CaptainShuddup says

There's no way in hell you're listening to the words.

Isn't every country songs are about drinking after you wife left you and stole your truck and your dog ran away, or your dog left you and stole your wife and your truck ran away?

If you want deep lyrics, listen to old Simon and Garfunkel songs.

That said, I like

http://www.youtube.com/embed/y7A-Vq2CslM

http://www.youtube.com/embed/asxrMSVrJ08

http://www.youtube.com/embed/FuuBjOaFODs
The generic rebellion song. Insert cause here.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/MnQcExGaEvk

And although, I might not admit it in public...
http://www.youtube.com/embed/byQIPdHMpjc

And pure generous...
http://www.youtube.com/embed/lf4__-xWq8w

CaptainShuddup says

Imagine came out in the 80's, the Hippies morphed into Yuppies by then. There's no damn Hippies with a Manhattan condo on Central park.

Captain, Captain, I think you need to check your facts. Again.

I think once can afford clean new clothes, you're no longer a hippie.
Even if you choose to live a dishevel appearance.
At that point you're just a rich slob, with long hair.

CaptainShuddup says

I think once can afford clean new clothes, you're no longer a hippie.

Even if you choose to live a dishevel appearance.

At that point you're just a rich slob, with long hair.

You are confusing hippies with wookies.

CaptainShuddup says

I think once can afford clean new clothes, you're no longer a hippie.

Even if you choose to live a dishevel appearance.

At that point you're just a rich slob, with long hair.

Remind us all again when Imagine was released.

Bigsby says

Remind us all again when Imagine was released.

CaptainShuddup says

Imagine came out in the 80's

Well, it was release in the 1980s. That is a fact.

It is also a fact that the the release in the 80s was not the first release. I think the question here is when was the first release.

leo707 says

Well, it was release in the 1980s. That is a fact.

It is also a fact that the the release in the 80s was not the first release. I think the question here is when was the first release.

Obviously the time it CAME OUT is rather a long way off where Captain thinks it is, but there's no surprise in that.

Bigsby says

Obviously the time it CAME OUT is rather a long way off where Captain thinks it is, but there's no surprise in that.

Ah, haha, yeah.

You will never catch me accusing Shaddup of being too through with the fact checking of his/her posts. On second thought, of doing any fact checking.

leo707 says

You will never catch me accusing Shaddup of being too through with the fact checking of his/her posts. On second thought, of doing any fact checking.

First of all, the Republican Party is "not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact checkers". I don't know why you have a problem with that. The Republican Party is about wining in a fictional world, you know like Middle Earth from Lord of the Rings. And Obama is Lord Sauron.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/1ot9JtiHhiU

Please note that the original video is creepier, but I'm going to post it anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/DbYtqAWDF2U

In any case, when Imagine was released is irrelevant. Captain's point was that all the hippies became yuppies and the album Imagine reflects the yuppy lifestyle rather than hippie lifestyle. Given what John Lennon looked like and how he lived at the time, I think that Captain's point is pretty much wrong regardless of when the album was released.

I stand corrected, Imagine was released in 1971.
I was thinking it was on double fantasy.
Dan8267 says

Given what John Lennon looked like and how he lived at the time, I think that Captain's point is pretty much wrong regardless of when the album was released.

No it's just diminished.