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America The Beautiful


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2008 May 27, 6:53am   19,615 views  96 comments

by Peter P   ➕follow (2)   💰tip   ignore  

Coming back from Europe, I have realized that America still has hope. In fact, I believe we will be in good shape if we tread carefully. We are actually quite fortunate:

  • Homes are comparatively affordable in this country
  • Most people are not condemned to public transportation here
  • Tax rate is relatively low for moderate-income families on this side of the pond

Homes in Paris and London are still hopelessly expensive for most families. Even with high prices, many homes lack basic necessities such as air-conditioning or multiple bathrooms.

Why would someone choose to be stranded with rowdy youths or drunkards every day in subway trains?

Most European countries think that social engineering is the answer to all problems. I think they are absolutely wrong, unless they think frequent strikes are part of the productivity miracle. With sky-high tax rates, are than reasons (other than escalation of commitment) why productive people still want to stay there?

(Of course, there are exceptions. For example, Switzerland is still clean, efficient, and beautiful. Incidentally, it has some of the best tax policies in Europe.)

Anyway, it is nice to know that we will do fine.

- Peter P

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69   Peter P   2008 May 29, 4:52am  

Perhaps we are proud to be selfish.

With Free Market, self-serving individuals collectively produce the greatest good for all. This is paradoxical yet reasonable.

70   Peter P   2008 May 29, 5:58am  

Consumption is not wrong. Besides, Nature does not care about equality. It just operates.

What you said did not bother me a bit. Humanity has been a tragedy from day one.

71   Peter P   2008 May 29, 6:07am  

And don't lecture us on world hunger.

Environmentalism is just a form of "I've got mine so screw you" to developing countries.

72   SQT15   2008 May 29, 7:15am  

Why all the hate toward Peter P? You don't have to agree with him, but why the insults? Peter's never rude and he isn't a troll. He's been a regular here longer than anyone and he's never been anything but a gentleman.

He has a lot of valid points to make. Personally, I think insults are the last resort of someone who doesn't have a real argument.

73   TooMuchMoneyForNothing   2008 May 29, 7:48am  

A must read on this topic about the Conservative Nanny State of the U.S.

http://tinyurl.com/3onn3o

74   Peter P   2008 May 29, 8:17am  

SQT, thanks for your support. How are you doing lately?

75   Peter P   2008 May 29, 8:24am  

There are several types of conservatives. I have no doubt that some believe in the Nanny State.

I wonder what TOB is doing about world hunger.

76   Peter P   2008 May 29, 8:25am  

Bap has always been an ally. :) Thanks!

Sriram too!

77   Peter P   2008 May 29, 8:28am  

Yep, if we had sticked with what we *needed*, we would still be cavemen.

Humanity is about wants, not needs. We must grow beyond ourselves. That is our motivation to exist.

78   PermaRenter   2008 May 29, 8:32am  

Long Live The Original Bankster ....

79   SQT15   2008 May 29, 8:46am  

Hey Peter

Doing good.

I definitely get were you're going with your post. I've lived outside the U.S. and I am grateful for how good we have it here. As far as world hunger, obesity and all the other issues that TOB brings up, they're not exactly exclusive to the U.S. Obesity rates are skyrocketing all over the world. I don't think it's a U.S. problem, but rather a problem among any country that has more than it needs. The U.S., without getting into any politics, gives big when giving aid to foreign countries.

I think U.S. bashing is just plain fashionable among some groups. I think it's a waste of time and energy. The fact is, most people I know who do the bashing do not give money and time to charities the way they should. My parents were always big ones to complain about U.S. policy but were incredibly selfish and look where they ended up. The best people I know don't complain. They do what they need to do to make the world a better place by putting their money where their mouth is.

80   Peter P   2008 May 29, 8:49am  

They do what they need to do to make the world a better place by putting their money where their mouth is.

I agree.

For example, multinationals are often vilified as exploiters. However, they do bring commercial opportunities to developing nations. It may look horrible to pay third world laborers only a few bucks a day, but it is inhumane to deny those people the chance to gain productive employment.

81   GammaRaze   2008 May 29, 9:15am  

I often hear people in the USA tell me how Nike or some company like that only pays its laborers in the third a few dollars a day but in most of the third world, that is good money.

Morons like the OB would rather have the poor people in third world countries starve from unemployment than have the voluntary choice of working for a company of their choice. This is their idea of compassion.

To understand how much TOB really cares about the "poor" countries, just go through the archives and read what he has written about India.

He is just a whiny loser troll.

82   Peter P   2008 May 29, 9:18am  

Morons like the OB would rather have the poor people in third world countries starve from unemployment than have the voluntary choice of working for a company of their choice.

So he can say that we let people in third world countries starve.

India and China have chosen to embrace the market. Just look at their miracles. :)

83   GammaRaze   2008 May 29, 10:01am  

Peter P, I have personally lived through the transformation in India from a soc1alist country (it was added to the country's name in the 60s!) towards a more open market in the early 90s. It is still far from being a free market but I could see the difference with even those changes.

India is reaping huge rewards now for even the minimal changes it made towards the free market. Without the free market, there is no real prosperity or freedom.

Unlike many of the ranting lunatics, I have actually lived through the different systems. I have actually lived in multiple countries. Which is why I am confident that I know what I am talking about.

Which is also why I don't have to resort to tossing out random baseless droppings from my brain and avoid answering when someone asks me to backup my own assertions, unlike TOB.

Race has very little to do with it, although TOB's lonely brain cell would like to simplify things by dividing thought along those lines.

84   GammaRaze   2008 May 29, 1:22pm  

Don't pull random links out of your ass, TOB. It is a country of a billion people. It is far from perfect because, well, it is full of people and people are far from perfect.

Your opinion about India aint worth jack $hit TOB because I'll bet you've never been there and know nothing about it and in your stupid head, that somehow makes you an expert on that country? F off.

Hey, whatever happened to not answering me because you don't respect me? I guess that only applies when I ask you to backup your own baseless assertions. When you see an opportunity to puke out nonsense, you can't resist replying to people you don't respect. LOL.

You are a waste of perfectly good oxygen.

85   moo_divine   2008 May 29, 8:28pm  

Breathtaking stupidity.

Perfect example of the mentality induced by a myopic, self-obsessed and ego-centric cultural system. Mouthing empty husksterisms as if universal platitudes and wisdom. Typically American. Understands so little of the his own society and the nature of other societies that it makes one gag. I would manage this mind probably has a college degree, too.

The richness of European culture and landscape (being a dual citizen of the EU and the US) can not be quantified in any simple set of measures. Compared to the US which is essentially, and largely, an ecological and human disaster systematically transforming what was once a magnificent world into a shithole primarily to serve profit. The absurd and deranged notion that the mindless pursuit of self-interest produces the greatest good is self-serving crap....look around you...this mentality has created a nightmare within the built environment, within society as well as within your head.

The true measure of a culture is the quality of its people and Americans, for the most part, are losers in this realm. Obsessed with power symbols and status, gizmos and trinkets, entertainments and fat intake, they generally no nothing about living since their whole existence is essential that of a caged animals obeying all the social engineering that institutions like the RAND Corporation develop on behalf of Madison Avenue. Its funny, most every European I know that visits here sees Americans as largely very conformist, superficial and uninteresting. As for freedoms, they typical laugh as it is quite clear that America is one of the least free places on earth. Its just that the poor dumb slobs are told they are free a thousand times a day from the propaganda ministries that they have come believe wage slavery, debt peonage and consumption means freedom. HaHaHaHa.... No one else does. if our ill-fated pioneer ancestors who lacked college degrees and the internet understood those things to be the antithesis of freedom. The poorest Africans, on the whole, know more about life and the nature of it that the 'best' educated slugs in this land.

What a joke. A bad one at that.

86   SQT15   2008 May 30, 12:01am  

More America bashing.

How original.

I'm sure you feel very fashionable right now. Very chic. Very superior.

87   Peter P   2008 May 30, 12:37am  

One thing TOB was right about me. I need to lose weight...

88   Peter P   2008 May 30, 12:39am  

As for freedoms, they typical laugh as it is quite clear that America is one of the least free places on earth.

Much of Europe does not even cherish the freedom of speech. Americans (except the far left) tend to accept (or at least tolerate) dissident opinions. Enough said.

89   Peter P   2008 May 30, 12:43am  

The notion that humanity can ruin our planet is arrogant at best. Earth can absolutely shrug and move on. We are tiny.

90   Peter P   2008 May 30, 5:41am  

The fact is that the environment has been constantly changing since the beginning of time. We, as a species, must learn to adapt. There is absolutely, positively no way we can resist natural changes.

Climate change? Of course. Alert me when the climate stops changing.

91   Peter P   2008 May 30, 12:39pm  

It is entirely possible that smug people may sponsor scientific researches.

92   Lost Cause   2008 Jun 2, 8:52am  

My heart breaks.

93   Bork   2008 Jun 4, 3:18am  

And I thought this blog had reached its lowest point with the emergence of GC person. How mistaken I was ...

94   Peter P   2008 Jun 4, 10:12am  

Huh?

95   GallopingCheetah   2008 Jun 5, 4:13pm  

Please, leave GC alone. GC is a charming man. GC may take your woman for a ride.

Geeezus, the only time I came to read this blog after a long hiatus is this puke.

Some european states are good, although I've found that many western Europeans want to marry and come to America. Be careful. Use caution.

Tell me something about monasteries. I'm planning my exit.

96   monkframe   2008 Jun 15, 2:47pm  

"Homes are comparatively affordable in this country
Most people are not condemned to public transportation here
Tax rate is relatively low for moderate-income families on this side of the pond"

I think Peter P. is putting us on.
A blog on which home ownership is derided as being unaffordable at this time?
Condemned to public transport when gasoline is killing the economy and many people's budgets?

Come on now, 'fess up, it's a put-on, right?

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