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If you are a NINJA...


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2007 Mar 19, 1:58pm   8,178 views  94 comments

by Peter P   ➕follow (2)   💰tip   ignore  

... what do you have to lose?

Will you be loyal to your master (i.e. the house and its true owner, aka the bank)?

Will you do whatever necessary to survive (i.e. avoiding foreclosure)?

Who are your enemies (JBRs, MSM, etc)?

Are Japanese kitchen knives any good?

#housing

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23   astrid   2007 Mar 20, 1:29am  

I thought ninjas are just hired assassins, in this case, we can only assume NINJAs are out to kill our economy.

Q: Were NINJAs hired by Al Qaeda to kill our wrong God/Godless economy?

24   astrid   2007 Mar 20, 1:34am  

Japanese knives are very light and very sharp. The downside is that they tend to be more fragile and may be harder to sharpen. You'll need at least a Chinese made cleaver (high carbon steel please) around to do the heavy work.

Anyone here own Kyocera ceramic vegetable peeler? Amazon has some for under $20, which seems like a good deal if they stay sharp for very long.

25   Bruce   2007 Mar 20, 1:37am  

astrid:

I think you must be right.

We could ask Quentin Tarantino... ;o)

26   DinOR   2007 Mar 20, 1:45am  

Btw, my wife recently chose the "J.A Henckels" 13 piece knife set for her 15 year company gift. They arrived last Friday and we noticed several "blems". The block had "short shots" in the coating and you could see the seams where it was splined together. The handles didn't feel all that solid and then we noticed the dreaded "Made in China" label.

What a great 15 year gift! (What kind of message are they sending?) Uh... we'd out-source your job if we could but haven't figured out a way yet? Pffft, we boxed it back up and she called yesterday for the return shipping label. (I think she opted for the ladies Movado watch).

27   astrid   2007 Mar 20, 1:50am  

Silly DinOR, it's not too late to return that and get her a nice set of Globals for not much more.

28   astrid   2007 Mar 20, 1:56am  

Oh, nevermind...silly Company.

DinOR could still get her Globals or Nenoxes or if he really wants to splurge...

http://www.japanesechefsknife.com/KDSeries.html#WIDTH:%20368px;%20HEIGHT:%20258px

29   Peter P   2007 Mar 20, 2:01am  

Anyone here own Kyocera ceramic vegetable peeler? Amazon has some for under $20, which seems like a good deal if they stay sharp for very long.

My only problem is that it looks more like a toy than a knife.

A dangerous item should look more dangerous than it is, not the other way around.

30   Randy H   2007 Mar 20, 2:06am  

NINJA loans would be useful for people who earn incomes without ever having a job. Not necessarily black market folks (like drug dealers and prostitutes), but gray market people, like those avoiding collection on judicial judgments -- especially from marital dissolution. It's not that hard to "earn income" meaning "have things paid for" with a small businesses or two and a collaborator you can really trust, like a sibling.

31   Peter P   2007 Mar 20, 2:16am  

RE: gray market people

I am sure they come without warranty.

32   FormerAptBroker   2007 Mar 20, 2:20am  

Randy H Says:

> FAB http://valleywag.com/
> If you want to become an invited commenter there
> I’ll see if I can get you a password.

Thanks for the offer, but I waste enough time making fun of FBs on this site that I don’t have the time to make fun of companies that allow people to chat with cats (or pay real money for “sex” with cartoon hookers) on another site…

33   Bruce   2007 Mar 20, 2:20am  

Randy H:

Agreed.

Still, I wonder what part money laundering played in big coastal towns' RE bubbles. And if they'll exit. Why would they?

34   MtViewRenter   2007 Mar 20, 2:21am  

Astrid,

Holy crap. $300-$1,000 for 1 knife? Does it cook your food for you and give you a massage after dinner too?

35   astrid   2007 Mar 20, 2:23am  

"Holy crap. $300-$1,000 for 1 knife? Does it cook your food for you and give you a massage after dinner too? "

I can't afford them myself so I don't know.

Though I would warn you against accepting massages from kitchen knives. That's probably not safe.

36   DinOR   2007 Mar 20, 2:27am  

astrid,

"Now THAT's a knife!"

Actually her choices were limited to any item listed in their 4 page catalog. Normally I try not judge product quality by it's country of origin. I have a Malaysian made Fender Strat copy that I play a HELL of a lot more than my U.S made 1974 Strat so none of that really bothers me. Then again, I don't work for Fender (TM)!

37   astrid   2007 Mar 20, 2:40am  

I always recommend cold hard cash in place of gifts, unless I'm giving to somebody who can't tell a Cutco from a Nenox, then I buy them a set of Analon and know that'll be the best knife they ever own.

38   Peter P   2007 Mar 20, 3:00am  

I always recommend cold hard cash in place of gifts, unless I’m giving to somebody who can’t tell a Cutco from a Nenox, then I buy them a set of Analon and know that’ll be the best knife they ever own.

We almost printed the PayPal Accepted logo on our wedding invitations.

39   DinOR   2007 Mar 20, 3:07am  

"We "almost" printed the Pay Pal Accepted logo on our wedding invitations"

Brilliant!

40   Peter P   2007 Mar 20, 3:16am  

Brilliant!

Too bad we didn't. The result: many wine glasses. We do not even drink.

41   Peter P   2007 Mar 20, 3:21am  

I don’t give wedding gifts. It’s called tough love.

I always give devaluing greenbacks.

42   DinOR   2007 Mar 20, 3:26am  

I can't say it's a direct result of NINJA Loans but now when you go to C/L for formerly "hot" markets (like Phoenix and LV) most of the RE postings are "Save your home from foreclosure" and "We buy distressed properties". And of course the inevitable "How to profit from.... distressed/foreclosed etc. etc."

Wow. What a difference from just a few months ago.

43   Peter P   2007 Mar 20, 3:28am  

Perhaps in 2012 C/L will have postings like "Save Yourselves From Hell". ;)

44   Peter P   2007 Mar 20, 3:28am  

For now they should just read "Save Yourselves From HEL".

45   e   2007 Mar 20, 3:35am  

Does anyone have a contact for housingtracker.net?

I really can't believe the stats published yesterday.

http://www.housingtracker.net/askingprices/metro/California/SanJose-Sunnyvale-SantaClara/

That's got to be a bug. It's got to be.

46   DinOR   2007 Mar 20, 3:39am  

Has anyone previously suggested minting "REIC Dollars"? I mean since the REIC has basically been printing their own currency over the last several years why not let them have it? Would it be possible to insulate the broader economy from the debacle of their choosing by having RE transact in a separate (but unequal) currency?

Since most RE is easily 4 to 5 times what it should be priced at we can start them off at... 5 "REIC's" to the dollar? They're backed by the ABX and your full faith and credit in overpriced POS, but can not be exchanged for anything other than pergraniteel. That way these lame bastards can, buy! sell! trade! themselves to death without dragging the rest of us down?

How different is it really from Randy H's fantasy world over at Second Life? Why were these people ever allowed to exchange their REIC dollars for real dollars?

Just a thought.

47   DinOR   2007 Mar 20, 3:42am  

Uh... that didn't come out right. Should read "the fantasy world Randy H exposed" at Second Life.

48   Peter P   2007 Mar 20, 3:42am  

I really can’t believe the stats published yesterday.

Why does that bother you? Everything points to a spring bounce. Save yourselves from being priced out! :)

One thing: I suppose inventory data is immediate while median price data is lagged by at least a month. Don't you see an anomaly?

Inventory drop should precede CONTRACT price increase, right?

When I got a C in Calculus, I was so sure the data must be wrong...

49   FormerAptBroker   2007 Mar 20, 3:42am  

Bruce Says:

> I wonder what part money laundering played in big
> coastal towns’ RE bubbles. And if they’ll exit.
> Why would they?

I was just talking to a kid I grew up with about our plans for Historic Weekend at the end of the summer and he mentioned something that I had never really thought of before.

Much if the “appreciation” in Bay Area homes over the past few years was due to the massive amount of capX that flippers put in to the homes.

Classic Car buyers and sellers keep track of “restoration” cost (so the guy that owns an old unrestored Camaro will not ask $30K just because some restored Camaros sold for $30K)

In the past it was not possible to “flip” a home and make any money (people used to fix up homes after they bought them and sell when they were worn out), but over the past few years the people with older crappy unrenovated homes are asking as much as the “area comps” that may have been ripped down to the studs and have all new electrical, plumbing and fixtures…

50   DinOR   2007 Mar 20, 3:47am  

FAB,

Sound as Barrett-Jackson Dollar!

51   e   2007 Mar 20, 3:50am  

Why does that bother you? Everything points to a spring bounce. Save yourselves from being priced out! :)

I thought the definition of spring bounce was that a heap of properties would come on the market, depressing the median prices.

52   e   2007 Mar 20, 3:51am  

but over the past few years the people with older crappy unrenovated homes are asking as much as the “area comps”

Oh, you mean like this one?

http://www.burbed.com/2007/03/20/1mil-open-house-house-not-included/

53   lunarpark   2007 Mar 20, 3:52am  

eburbed - There are two housing tracker sites. The other site shows an increase:

http://www.housingtracker.net/old_housingtracker/location/California/SanJose/

The numbers on this site are more consistent with my own, which show YOY:

2006 - 3666
2007 - 4324

54   DinOR   2007 Mar 20, 3:55am  

eburbed,

The Portland Metro area has seen an EIGHTY % increase in listings over Feb '06. What makes that laughable is that like no other population on THIS planet Portlanders are at the core of DIY crowd. (Meaning we've always had an active FSBO market). Factor that in and you've got an exploding inventory.

55   Glen   2007 Mar 20, 3:56am  

I can’t say it’s a direct result of NINJA Loans but now when you go to C/L for formerly “hot” markets (like Phoenix and LV) most of the RE postings are “Save your home from foreclosure” and “We buy distressed properties”. And of course the inevitable “How to profit from…. distressed/foreclosed etc. etc.”

Those "formerly 'hot' markets" are now just hot. Phoenix and LV are miserable places. I can't imagine wanting to live in one of those blazing infernos--especially with global warming on the horizon. These markets are still way overpriced. I would much rather live in Detroit. At least Detroit has a native fresh water supply and liveable weather (winter in Detroit is more liveable than summer in Phoenix, IMO). Houses in Detroit are $30k - $100K. In Phoenix and LV, most homes are still over $200K. That's a long way to fall.

56   DinOR   2007 Mar 20, 3:59am  

@ eburbed,

They were talking R E I C dollars!

57   Randy H   2007 Mar 20, 4:00am  

The Case Shiller Index for Phoenix shows there's still *a lot* of pain yet to come there. San Francisco is notably _lower_ than Phoenix on the CSI, which makes sense when you consider the relative percentage bubble-prices versus historical trendline.

58   speedingpullet   2007 Mar 20, 4:02am  

mmmmm....Globals....[drools]

59   e   2007 Mar 20, 4:04am  

eburbed - There are two housing tracker sites. The other site shows an increase:

But that page says that it's the old page, and that the new page has better data.

60   Randy H   2007 Mar 20, 4:09am  

On creating a separate currency for REIC, we'll call them REIC dollars (R$):

You cannot do this by law in the US. It is illegal to mint and distribute a currency within the US (or most other nations for that matter).

"But wait a minute!" you say. How do these giant computer games that call themselves "virtual worlds" with bajillions of "residents" get away with it? How does Second Life get away printing Linden dollars (L$)?

The answer is not that complex:

a) No one has stopped them yet because its something new, and still relatively small. There aren't really bajillions of players, just a couple hundred thousand, even if there were bajillions of looky loos.

b) No one reads the License Agreement or Terms of Service agreement when they install the game. Just like you don't when you install MS Word. I mean, there's like dozens of pages and the font is really tiny.

c) If they did read the legalese they'd realize that they don't even own their L$. The game makers owns all the L$. They just let the players use it "as if" they owned it, and promise to always be nice and not steal their hard earned L$.

There's all kinds of sordid details on my blog. But most here won't really care. If the REIC tried to mint R$, they'd need to trick everyone with legal agreements they wouldn't read. That's actually probably possible. And lots of dumb people would believe the benevolent NAR would always be good guys and not steal their R$, and let them use their R$ "as if" it were real.

But the flaw is too many people actually give a shit about real real estate (versus "virtual" cartoon real estate). So as soon as the first guy lost some R$, even due to his own stupidity, he'd be interviewing trail lawyers to determine which he's going to award the prize of suing the shit out of the REIC.

61   lunarpark   2007 Mar 20, 4:09am  

Obviously the new page does not have better data since it's not even close to my own numbers, which I trust more than some random site on the internet.

62   DinOR   2007 Mar 20, 4:17am  

"we'll call them REIC Dollars (R$)"

And why...NOT!

Backed 100% by cubic zirconia, they have the look, feel and smell of REAL money!

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