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Karloff says

RayAmerica says

The stated policy of management was to "let them go and do not confront them."

What is the point of checking receipts at the door then? Just to keep track of how many people stole things?

Smoke and mirrors. Mostly it’s to try and convince others not to steal.

The whole concept right now is completely retarded. You can’t have a civilization without some sort of enforcement mechanism. Once fully implemented, as head set said, the laws will again be enforced. It’s exactly how nefarious the Democrats in California are. Those Democrats pushing all of this really just want their seat at the fat pig table once the changes are made. The mouth breathing morons that vote for them don’t realize they are voting for their own doom and the happy faggots want to celebrate men giving the ol in n out to another man’s rectum and don’t realize how truly fucked they will be under the new regime.

Patrick says

That comment was definitely a personal insult.

How? I criticized the behavior of one who trivialized theft, albeit a bit strong. When one brags about stealing, I do not think it is inappropriate to tell him he may want to check his integrity.

Onvacation says

Can employees steal without being fired now?

Right. Can politicians....businesses steal without consequences now? The shite starts at the stop and flows down.

CA raised the grand theft limit to $950 a while back. And now they passed a bill making it illegal for employer to require employees to confront thieves/shoplifters.

For their safety, I don’t think employees should do this anyway and I don’t think it was happening much.

With shoplifting there was always grey area… if I walk out with these, will someone confront me. What risk am I taking by trying to walk out with his iPhone charger?

But with this bill, isn’t it open season? $950 and it’s illegal to try and stop me?

For the record, I don’t give much of a shit about corporations and their profits. However, I’m seeing a lot more shit locked up in stores and store theft is all over nextdoor with people saying that so and so just walked right out without paying.

Thoughts?

BayArea says

Thoughts?

There has always existed a rather thin line that separates our society from the law-abiding to the lawless. That line has now been officially crossed by the lawless, along with those politicians that support them, and the results will be continual chaos.

BigSky says

Not at all. At that age I was a total delinquent that stole frequently, but I will admit that those were the acts of a thief. But as an adult I changed my behavior. The issue is not that you were only 17, it is that today you consider the activity you did then as not really stealing, and even today you said you pilfer gas from your wife's employer. Kid's make mistakes, which is why it was my policy was never to prosecute anyone under 18 for shoplifting or pilfering. A adult should have matured to the point of having integrity.

You straightened your shit out, because of the ramifications of your actions. Had their not been any consequences, you would be a bigger thief today.
Consequences are the greatest ager of all.

BayArea says

CA raised the grand theft limit to $950 a while back. And now they passed a bill making it illegal for employer to require employees to confront thieves/shoplifters.

For their safety, I don’t think employees should do this anyway and I don’t think it was happening much.

With shoplifting there was always grey area… if I walk out with these, will someone confront me. What risk am I taking by trying to walk out with his iPhone charger?

But with this bill, isn’t it open season? $950 and it’s illegal to try and stop me?

For the record, I don’t give much of a shit about corporations and their profits. However, I’m seeing a lot more shit locked up in stores and store theft is all over nextdoor with people saying that so and so just walked right out without paying.

Thoughts?

A combination of these 2 things makes everyone pay more for goods as retailers have to charge more to compensate for theft losses. This will drive more retailers out of business, especially the mom and pop shops, while it’s good for on-line retailers like AMZN. My 2 cents.

richwicks says

You don't think for a moment "am I possibly a kind of shitty person?"

I wouldn't notice spending an extra $2,000 a year, that's why I wouldn't be a thief. It's not about money, it's about personal integrity. Doesn't this even occur to you?

Integrity? This surely is in jest. How about the company stealing from my wife by not paying her what anyone with those sales numbers makes. They're taking $200k at least for themselves. And she goes above and beyond helping the other sales people.

There is no integrity in business, government or life. Churches are diddling kids and just paid money to make it "go away" and you're worried about 0.03% of sales my wife EARNED. You're extremely naivie to think there's an ounce of integrity around you.

Also my role in the household allows my wife to be successful. Her boss pays me more in a day for grilling at company parties than her daily base salary pays. Unless the company hits hard times, he doesn't care and I know him. I just can't talk to him about my wife's pay. That's on her. We're also talking 0.03% and that's just her sales. She's trained all the other ones to sell and it's not a traditional sales style. Because of her, the company owns the whole Mississippi river states sales territory.

This is the classic response we get and I'm used to it. Jealousy of others is a tough pill to swallow. P Diddy. Mo money mo problems. And it's true and we live it. Integrity has different forms. Don't worry about how my life operates and the OWNER knows about us doing it. He just doesn't say anything because he doesn't want to piss off the rainmaker and plant the seed so other salespeople think they can do it.

Has nothing to do with integrity. Own a business and let me know if riding your employees on every little thing works out. You won't have employees....

RayAmerica says

BayArea says

Thoughts?

There has always existed a rather thin line that separates our society from the law-abiding to the lawless. That line has now been officially crossed by the lawless, along with those politicians that support them, and the results will be continual chaos.

Here's the problem. THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN GOING ON!!! I have massive trust issues. Anyone non-family that is close to me I've done background searches on. My kids friends family, I do sex offender searches when they get new friends. I know what half the people we know make and I never asked.

Most people simply are not informed about what is going on around them. While being an insomniac is not pleasant it does give me time to find shit out on people. Also networking/knowing people. I just hung out with the village president last night. Her son came over to our house for a sleep over. Know the people that pull the strings. Integrity shouldn't be a word in the dictionary if you know what the fuck is going on. YOU ALL violate integrity and you know it. The hypocrisy is hysterical.

Tenpoundbass says

You straightened your shit out, because of the ramifications of your actions.

Not a fear of ramifications like jail or punishment, but a self-realization from a talk with my dad and later from a very respected friend describing how he himself works to stay honest. I know that I am not naturally honest like some few I have met, but I know and make an effort to avoid the blatant acts.

WookieMan says

How about the company stealing from my wife by not paying her what anyone with those sales numbers makes.

So now it is reparations? If your wife is not being paid enough, then she should ask for a raise or work for an employer who will pay her more. If no raise is forthcoming and no other employer will pay her more, then she is being paid what she is worth. That is true for any employee.

WookieMan says

Jealousy of others is a tough pill to swallow.

How arrogant and how grabbing at straws. Nobody is jealous of you, anymore than anyone who protests Lia Thomas is just jealous of "her" winning. Most people on this blog seem to be well accomplished on their own.

BigSky says

So now it is reparations? If your wife is not being paid enough, then she should ask for a raise or work for an employer who will pay her more. If no raise is forthcoming and no other employer will pay her more, then she is being paid what she is worth. That is true for any employee.

You make me laugh. She's offered other jobs almost daily. We've almost moved to CO and CA. Our cost of living is 50% below those two states at minimum and she'd make the same. So I don't get what you mean by reparations. She's not paid what she's worth. That's her problem. I can spend $2k on gas and the company doesn't care. In one weekend at the Ozark's coming up this fall it will be $10k easy in one weekend. $1k of that being gas for a 56' boat.

You guys don't know my life, yet have opinions that aren't based in reality. I live a different life than you or anyone else on this site. We live frugally, but the optics make it look like we travel and do all this other shit. Part of that's my fault.

Don't get pigeon hole'd into what life should be. You don't know mine. If my wife doesn't want to ask for more that's on her, not me. 25 years this November. In modern times let me know if you've been with the same person that long. I'm doing something right...

BigSky says

WookieMan says

Jealousy of others is a tough pill to swallow.

How arrogant and how grabbing at straws. Nobody is jealous of you, anymore than anyone who protests Lia Thomas is just jealous of "her" winning. Most people on this blog seem to be well accomplished on their own.

No. It's reality. I live it every day.

How long have you been here? Eman which I do believe is a successful RE investor gets shit on by some users over his success. Jealousy is rampant in our society. That's what leads to theft going back to the OP. People want what they cannot have. Would you turn down a hot wife that makes $300k?

Like I said, I live it everyday and know the personalities that come with it. Your comments are right on par with jealously. It's fine. I was once jealous of a lot of things. I changed that. I hope you enjoy Montana though. I like Moonlight Basin myself. Not rich enough for Yellowstone Club.

WookieMan says

Integrity has different forms.

Oh yes, the old sliding scale of ethics. Perhaps that church you mentioned that diddles kids and pays to make it go away considers such action to comply with their "form" of integrity. After all, the church support lots of charities and there are people out in the world who start wars. Absurd, yes, but no more so than any argument that justifies a dishonest action based on "everyone else is doing it or worse."

WookieMan says

Would you turn down a hot wife that makes $300k?

I would accept your offer but I am already married.

WookieMan says

People want what they cannot have.

Yes, that is the basis of Capitalism (change cannot have to do not currently have) . But so is honest pursuit of what one desires.

WookieMan says

I hope you enjoy Montana though.

Thanks, but I was more with ranches than with resorts.

WookieMan says

25 years this November. In modern times let me know if you've been with the same person that long.

Yep, both of us married only once and still together since 1995. I was quite the man whore in my 20s though, but got that all out of my system before settling down.

BigSky says

But so is honest pursuit of what one desires.

If you think anyone around you is operating honestly, you're sadly mistaken is all I'll say. That includes family and friends. You may not operate that way, 90-95% do. It's the classic don't hate the player hate the game.

No matter how nice anyone seems, they'll take from you. Trust me. Maybe you've lived it, maybe not. I don't condone it, but sometimes you play the game is all. We all do at some point whether we know it or not.

Back to Montana. I get no one likes Big Lie, you should know the joke if you live(d) near that region. What area do you like? I like snowboarding and unfortunately along with that comes resorts. It is nice though. Spanish Peaks to the North are beautiful in the summer.

Eman says

A combination of these 2 things makes everyone pay more for goods as retailers have to charge more to compensate for theft losses.

Yes indeed.
A Homeland Security Investigations report published in June 2022 said the average U.S. family will have to pay more than $500 a year extra for goods due to the impact of organized retail theft.

BayArea says

For the record, I don’t give much of a shit about corporations and their profits. However, I’m seeing a lot more shit locked up in stores and store theft is all over nextdoor with people saying that so and so just walked right out without paying.

I don't give a crap about corporations, but if a corporation can't make a profit, they pack up and leave.

People might end up in neighborhoods where they simply can't purchase anything because there's no stores there. That's the threat.

BigSky says

Kid's make mistakes, which is why it was my policy was never to prosecute anyone under 18 for shoplifting or pilfering

Dude, just give them community service. You don't have to screw them 6 ways from sunday, all you need to do is make them experience a consequence once.

Shoplifters aren't really stealing from the store, so much as they are stealing from everybody that goes to that store. Prices just adjust.

WookieMan says

Integrity? This surely is in jest. How about the company stealing from my wife by not paying her what anyone with those sales numbers makes.

Then she can ask for a raise, or quit and get another job. You have an entitlement complex. If she's so valuable and indispensable, surely she can get a larger salary or leave.

WookieMan says

This is the classic response we get and I'm used to it. Jealousy of others is a tough pill to swallow.

This is typical. I'm disgusted with you, I'm not jealous of you.

You have any idea how easy it is to take advantage of the public? I could create an instant messenger that I CLAIM is 100% secure, and then make up a shadow company in another nation and sell any information I get off from it to the highest bidder.

It's trivial to make money, if you're a shitty person. If you're willing to be a piece of garbage, it's easy. I've been torn with this dilemma. I could EASILY go down the road of "well, these assholes are stupid, barely human anyhow, will believe any nonsense, they're gullible, fuck 'em". It's not a good existence to live with that attitude. Trust me.

richwicks says

Then she can ask for a raise, or quit and get another job. You have an entitlement complex. If she's so valuable and indispensable, surely she can get a larger salary or leave.

You read nothing of what I wrote clearly. Congrats I guess? Please read.

richwicks says

This is typical. I'm disgusted with you, I'm not jealous of you.

You are though. You do nothing. You program computers/sites and do nothing else. Bitch here to an active crowd of 50 and maybe 500 active lurkers. You're not elected. You just like to bitch. You don't read anyone's comments. You repeatedly bitch about the same thing over and over. Let me know how this comment is about Iraq and WMD's and you know all. Or that you're the fucking dog whisperer or something and know it all. You know dick and you know it.

When was the last time you even left California? Did anything of note? You sit here and bitch and moan yet do NOTHING about it. Informing people that aren't going to listen to you because it's an online forum is a waste of everyone's time. Have a fucking human conversation. I'd believe you're a bot/AI, but Patrick says he's met you. You don't bring any content to this site. Just whining and not reading.

Do something.

WookieMan says

You are though. You do nothing. You program computers/sites and do nothing else. Bitch here to an active crowd of 50 and maybe 500 active lurkers. You're not elected.

We don't even live in a democratic system. You still don't realize that yet. We haven't been in any sort of democratic system since at least 1988.

You can't fix a problem if you refuse to acknowledge it.

I thought, naively, that when everything could be exposed by creating a world wide network, people would stop listening to propaganda, and bullshit, and finally see the obvious and acknowledge it and deal with it, but instead they double down on their error. The older the generation the more lost they are, the more denial they are in. The only hope is the younger generation, they are FAR quicker to realize they've been tricked, I have never gotten a boomer to admit they've been propagandized into something, ever. Much easier to do with a millennial, meaning, it's at least possible.

Look at this pandemic bullshit. CLEARLY it was bullshit. "The unvaccinated are a threat to the vaccinated" - I never imagined even 4 years ago, ANYBODY would be so fucking stupid as to believe that, but they do. My mistake, was DRASTICALLY over-estimating the intelligence of people. I am seriously at this point wondering if these "people" are people. Are they really human, if they just repeat what a television box told them? They don't even do cursory thinking.

You're oblivious yourself. You see absolutely nothing wrong with shitty things you do, even when it's pointed out to you. You're a thief, you justify it because your "wife is worth more" - well maybe, it's easy to put that to the test. Talk her boss, and let him know explicitly he pays for your transportation. Ah, I bet you're NOW thinking - "oh, that might be a problem, sure as hell won't do that!"

You come to a conclusion first, then you search for ways to justify it. You won't test your conclusion, that might mean you're wrong, and it could put you in considerable jeopardy.

WookieMan says

When was the last time you even left California?

About 8 months ago.

WookieMan says

Did anything of note? You sit here and bitch and moan yet do NOTHING about it.

Can't really discuss in detail what I'm doing.

richwicks says

You still don't realize that yet.

You have to stop saying that to a person that IS doing something. Has done something. I get the system far beyond what you even think you know.

Listen, as much of a creep as he is, I know the former speaker of the House, Denny Hastert. Know him. 2nd in line to POTUS at one point. Literally the 2nd most powerful person on the planet. We're getting $1M from my federal house rep in a town of 2k people. I know the game better than anyone here. AND I'm elected and doing my part instead of bitching.

Instead of getting hung up on Iraq, maybe get involved at the county level. Move up from there. I'm sick of people bitching about national politics when they don't do shit locally. Town, city, county, state... And no, showing up to a meeting generally does nothing. They will say "we hear you and will decide at the next meeting" and no one shows up to the next one. YOU have to get on the board. YOU have to be the representative. Until then your words are shit.

WookieMan says

You have to stop saying that to a person that IS doing something. Has done something. I get the system far beyond what you even think you know.

I doubt it.

WookieMan says

Listen, as much of a creep as he is, I know the former speaker of the House, Denny Hastert. Know him.

Oh good for you. You know an unconvicted pedophile who had one victim (Steven Reinboldt) commit suicide who was controlled by the intelligence agencies, and sold out the country to protect himself from exposure. Somebody that betrayed 300 million Americans so people wouldn't find out he was diddling kids.

I'm sure that some difference will be made when 99.9% of America doesn't even realize he was a fucking pedophile who the intelligence agencies protected because they controlled him...

To obtain power in the United States, you have to be blackmailable, which means you have no power at all. The Franklin Scandal alleged (probably correctly) that George H. Bush was a male child sex abuser.


original link


Oh look, an entire documentary was made, but shelved because some unknown people bought up all the rights, but some editor released it on to the Internet anyhow. I remember it being reported in newspapers at the time. Boys Town was heavily implicated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_child_prostitution_ring_allegations

William Clinton was a rapist and ran drugs for the Iran Contra Scandal. George W. Bush was also alleged to be a male pedophile. Barack Obama was widely known to be a homosexual BEFORE he ran for president, rumors about him and Steven Reinboldt abounded before he even ran. Joe Biden is a pedophile.

I'm sure you can change the system by being involved!!!

WookieMan says

Instead of getting hung up on Iraq, maybe get involved at the county level.

Yeah, I need to forget 800,000 Iraqis were killed over a weapons of mass destruction program that didn't exist, and was known not to exist, as exposed by the Downing Street Memos. I have to get over that trifling matter. I have to forget the US brought civil war and slavery to Libya. I have to forget about Syria being blown up so Genie Energy could steal energy resources from the Golan and Israel could expand. I need to forget about the estimated 250,000 children that have died in the Yemeni and Somalian war the US is waging still. I got to forget that Afghanistan more than doubled their opium production under US military occupation.

I have to get over that fact the US overthrew Ukraine in 2014, which led to civil war, which has now gotten 300,000 (estimated) Ukrainians killed in a fruitless war so that a few people in congress can make money having their crackhead kids taking bribes for them.

Why should any of this bother me? Live and let live.

WookieMan says

I'm sick of people bitching about national politics when they don't do shit locally.

The snake rots from the head down, not the tail up. If the head isn't cut off, it's just going to infect everything downstream.

The Federal government is killing the whole country, and even if every single town and county magically gets angels in power, that won't stop it.

richwicks says

You know an unconvicted pedophile who had one victim

Unconvicted??? What the hell are you talking about? Shows me you have no clue WTF you're talking about and all future comments should be treated as bull shit.

I'm not going to address all your other crap and basically spam at this point. It's the same thing over and over and over. You can't even get facts about the Speaker of the House being convicted of fucking around with a kid. Who cares if it was 1 or 10? You got the facts wrong. You won't own it. Post a link as you say. Prove me wrong. Hastert went to jail for christ sake. He should have, but you just ate shit on this one.

So now we can take all the kids groomer shit out of the Target store without paying for it and burn it in the parking lot!

WookieMan says

Unconvicted??? What the hell are you talking about? Shows me you have no clue WTF you're talking about and all future comments should be treated as bull shit.

He went to jail for evading bank reporting requirements and lying to federal investigators.

He wasn't convicted of RAPING CHILDREN which he was guilty of, because of a statute of limitations. He did 13 months in jail and fined $250,000.

WookieMan says

I'm not going to address all your other crap and basically spam at this point. It's the same thing over and over and over. You can't even get facts about the Speaker of the House being convicted of fucking around with a kid. Who cares if it was 1 or 10? You got the facts wrong.

Maybe I do have my facts wrong. Please point them out. Saying to me "you are wrong" doesn't tell me HOW I'm wrong, so I just remain wrong.

WookieMan says

Post a link as you say. Prove me wrong. Hastert went to jail for christ sake.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Hastert

In May 2015, Hastert was indicted on federal charges of structuring bank withdrawals to evade bank reporting requirements and making false statements to federal investigators. Federal prosecutors said that the funds withdrawn by Hastert were used as hush money to conceal his past sexual misconduct.
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In court submissions filed in April 2016, federal prosecutors alleged that Hastert had molested at least four boys as young as 14 years of age during his time as a high school wrestling coach. At a sentencing hearing, Hastert admitted that he had sexually abused boys whom he had coached. Referring to Hastert as a "serial child molester", a federal judge imposed a sentence of 15 months in prison, two years' supervised release, and a $250,000 fine.

Think that's enough of a punishment of a man that raped 4 boys?

Joseph Rosenbaum raped five boys, and only did 2 years and 6 months for that. He was in a psych facility when it was released to riot.

richwicks says

Federal prosecutors said that the funds withdrawn by Hastert were used as hush money to conceal his past sexual misconduct.

richwicks says

Oh good for you. You know an unconvicted pedophile who had one victim (Steven Reinboldt) commit suicide who was controlled by the intelligence agencies, and sold out the country to protect himself from exposure.

Do you read what you're typing?? He was jailed for fucking around with a kid. You can split hairs all you want. I can give you $15k a day for fun and see what happens. Guess what happened to Hastert? He was fucking arrested and jailed for diddling a kid and buying him off. They used banking laws to charge him. I get that. No, they didn't charge him with child rape as the cash payments were current. He skirted the law and didn't get charged with what he should have been.

I'm sorry. You act like an authority of knowledge but know dick to be honest. Do you know one person in federal government that you could call? One? You don't know the system at all. Your sources are generally bull shit artists trying to monetize a channel. They and you have no clue. You don't for sure. Let me know when you're elected to something of relevance and maybe we can have an adult conversation. You think you know, but you don't.

WookieMan says

Do you read what you're typing?? He was jailed for fucking around with a kid.

No, he was jailed on federal charges of structuring bank withdrawals to evade bank reporting requirements and making false statements to federal investigators.

He's a child rapist.

WookieMan says

You can split hairs all you want. I can give you $15k a day for fun and see what happens.

Do it!

WookieMan says

No, they didn't charge him with child rape as the cash payments were current. He skirted the law and didn't get charged with what he should have been.

Doing time in prison for bank fraud is a LITTLE different than doing prison time for raping kids.

WookieMan says

I'm sorry. You act like an authority of knowledge but know dick to be honest. Do you know one person in federal government that you could call? One?

For what? For a "favor"? What would I want with the mafia? Get my wife out of a DUI? Make certain my kid escapes his possession charge? Have my tax assessment lowered? Get that no bid contract? The only reason to contact a person in federal government is corruption, nothing else - something you have shown a willingness to engage in.

Level with your wife's boss - you said he knows, he doesn't care. Test it. THANK him for overlooking it. That would be the proper thing to do, since he knows, and he doesn't care. It's proper to express thankfulness, don't you think?

WookieMan says

You don't know the system at all. Your sources are generally bull shit artists trying to monetize a channel.

Who do you think my sources are? Name them.

WookieMan says

Let me know when you're elected to something of relevance

We don't have an election system. Maybe for city dog catcher, that's it.

It's so trivial, so VERY TRIVIAL to validate the vote, yet they are "???? I don't know how to do it!!! It's TOO EXPENSIVE, it's too HARD!!!!!"

No it's not.

You can get actually elected to a position that doesn't matter, but a position that does matter, you're not elected, you're placed there. If you and the contender are BOTH owned by the same people, yeah, the election can be fair, doesn't matter then who is placed in power then. No favoritism or ballot fraud needed.

WookieMan says

You think you know, but you don't.

Haha - what have I said you disagree with? Point out my errors. I might be in error, and I could improve if I knew how I was in error, but it's SUPER SECRET INFORMATION isn't it? You have to hold that close to your chest, because it advantages you, and FUCKS society and the country. Who cares about the rest of the nation? You don't.

It's not like you need "insider information" to figure out what the fuck is going on, you don't need friends in high places to put the puzzle pieces together. You just need to think A LITTLE bit. If you can't do that, you have to join the mafia to know what the mafia is doing. It's blatantly obvious what the mafia is doing. When you join the mafia though, lips are sealed aren't they? There's retribution, and people don't have any fucking balls or guts. Well, some people do, they die in accidents.

$60,000 (or is it $90,000 now?) a year is spent on homeless in San Francisco. Still, they live in tents. I wonder why... Seems like you could get an apartment with that much money, a decent place to stay.. So weird isn't it, like all the money is being stolen or something...

But I don't have any idea what is going on! I'm clueless! If only I knew people in the inside that could tell me the "duh, isn't obvious to you, stupid?" - yeah, well, it's pretty obvious. People just are too trusting. Too innocent. You're not innocent.

And you could help, you won't. You could actually explain it to a wider public, rather than "oh, it's mysterious, you need to know people to know what is going on..." - but you don't. I would never want to be like you, and I don't need to be like you. You just have to be cynical enough to understand what a sociopath is or be one.

Sociopaths have no problem joining the mafia do they? You ought to know. "Oh, people are just a bunch of fools to take advantage of" - isn't that what you think?

Am I incorrect? It's not fucking that difficult to know what is going on, when you just drop your emotions and look at this as a game. A NORMAL person would say "Oh, I can't get 300,000 Ukrainians killed to make a few million dollars and force taxpayers to pay 100's of billions of dollars for this bloodshed" - but they can. If you can view the "people of Ukraine" as pawns, literal pawns, pieces, you can. If you can view US citizens only as "human resources" you can.

Just completely abandon any pretense of morality. It's just a game. Nobody is being killed. If you can think of it that way, and you can if it's merely a game, everything falls into place - no mystery.

And you know it. You think I want join the cesspool that is "our government"? Be part of THAT? I'd seriously would prefer to be dead, and probably, I'll eventually end up being dead for just being aware of how it actually works and speaking openly about it.

Keep climbing that ladder of corruption and filth. We're all jealous of you, if only we could degrade ourselves. You know Dennis Hastert, a child rapist. Good for you. Isn't it weird he was still employable after that. I wonder why?

Ceffer says

Otherwise known as the 'Destroy The Remaining Businesses That Haven't Already Bailed Out' Law.

not a bad law this time, employer shouldn’t be able to force employees to fight shoplifters. hire security for that.

They need to pass another law that all Californians who voted Democrats must remain in the state. They can not leave.

Every lesson comes at a price.

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

Ceffer says

Otherwise known as the 'Destroy The Remaining Businesses That Haven't Already Bailed Out' Law.

not a bad law this time, employer shouldn’t be able to force employees to fight shoplifters. hire security for that.

It's just a way for small businesses to be forced to stop accepting cash for one, and be victim to theft for another.

Yeah, it sounds like a GREAT idea, until the only place you can shop at is Walmart.

It's just giving fucking criminals a pass. I wish I was 20 years older closer to death. Think for a moment. We've had this system for over 200 years, and you're like "oh, this sounds like an improvement" - IS IT? What are the consequences?

Small businesses can't compete or even operate, anybody they hire has to be a cashier AND a security guard, or have 2 people, and if a thief gets stopped, the government will sue the business on behalf of the owner [EDIT_MISTAKE: I meant: "behalf of the thief" - HeadSet pointed out this error].

richwicks says

the government will sue the business on behalf of the owner.

I believe you meant "on behalf of the thief.

HeadSet says

richwicks says

the government will sue the business on behalf of the owner.

I believe you meant "on behalf of the thief.

You're right. I will correct this in include EDIT_MISTAKE in it.

tomtomtom says

They need to pass another law that all Californians who voted Democrats must remain in the state. They can not leave.

Every lesson comes at a price.

There are a lot of people that know this as truth but don’t want to accept it yet. The answer is for moderate and right leaning people to leave California. My countdown has started. I wish I could go now.

The people still holding their lotto ticket and saying “oh the weather” are missing the boat badly. Pre pandemic was the time to leave. Now every day you stay you risk a higher level of danger from crime and will continue to pay escalating taxes and fees, not to mention all the other quality of life issues. Even in the “safe” suburbs.

And it’s only a matter of time before the California govt makes an attempt to take your property.

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

There are a lot of people that know this as truth but don’t want to accept it yet. The answer is for moderate and right leaning people to leave California. My countdown has started. I wish I could go now.

The people still holding their lotto ticket and saying “oh the weather” are missing the boat badly. Pre pandemic was the time to leave. Now every day you stay you risk a higher level of danger from crime and will continue to pay escalating taxes and fees, not to mention all the other quality of life issues. Even in the “safe” suburbs.

And it’s only a matter of time before the California govt makes an attempt to take your property.

I would expect this also to be the case in Maryland (and New York, NJ, MA) at some point, just in years, possibly decades (except for NY which is probably already just as bad as CA).

WookieMan says

Jealousy of others is a tough pill to swallow.

@WookieMan - do you understand that people aren't jealous of how much you degrade yourself, that there are actually people who won't do what you do because they have a better set of ethics and values?

I want to know if you understand this. For example: nobody, sane at least, is jealous of Hunter Biden. He's a worthless piece of shit that makes money being a conduit for bribes through his father. He's very wealthy, lives a luxurious lifestyle, he has tons of sex, he's above the law - would you like to be him?

Often, people who think they are "climbing up" are actually "climbing down". I think you're in the mud and don't realize it.

It's usually PeopleUnited that goes on about god and morality, but I'm doing it now as an atheist. There's something to morality and good and evil. I just don't believe in the Christian faith, but evil exists. It's a real thing, either in people's minds, or it's an actual force. What are you doing? Have you thought about that?