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FuckCCP89 says

Shaman says

Latinx

Why there is suddenly an "x" at the end of that word?

Because of the gender specific nature of the Spanish language, a different word is required. Rather than Latino (male) or Latina (female) we go with Latinx.
That’s the reason and it seems reasonable to me.

Shaman says

mell says

Dholliday126 says

I've said it before and I'll say it again. With White people not procreating, becoming non-religious and crazy liberal; latins may be the conservatives best bet. Latins love jesus, are family centric, and fuck like bunnies. Believe me, they are not down with this BLM or LBGTQ bullshit.

...they may very well may become the heart and soul of the conservative re-emergence, if played right.

Agreed.

I’ve been saying the same thing for years. Latinx people are family centric, religious, and fun loving. They’re Americans in every sense of the definition and it’s time we acknowledged them as fellow conservatives and allies against the woke White leftist cabal. This isn’t about race, it’s about ideology and whether or not we can sustain society in the long term or if it will dra...

Agreed - I never thought of Latinos to be culturally distant, they are like Spanish or Italians and Latino is an invented fictional race anyways. Trump was right though that esp. the Mexican govt often sends the bad as it likes to get rid of them and there are many illegals and criminals/gangs and those probably will continue to back Democrats for the time being. However the vast majority of Latinos are hard working and upstanding people and the more succeed the more will turn Conservative. They are mostly Catholic and not huge fans of the lgbtqxyz++awesomo crowd and also no fan of marxism. The problem is likely their youth again though, similar to the white youth, getting indoctrinated by the leftoid education system. You don't see many older Hispanics protest, they are all young, brainwashed and foolish. Time for Mom and Pop to slap some sense into their kids again ;)

Also note that kids always have been more left than grown-ups - it's human nature to be more idealistic as a kid and more rational as a grown up. We all were. However never before has been cultural-marxist leftoid bullshit openly taught in school and never before have kids been turned into agitators. Yes, the educational environment has always been more left leaning, but what's going on in todays schools an universities is unprecedented.

mell says

Also note that kids always have been more left than grown-ups -

And it’s this election that might disprove the rule. Young people are getting absolutely hosed by lockdown policies largely enacted by the elderly, promoted by people who are Middle Aged+. It’s a simple dichotomy between older and younger people. Older people want lockdowns which disproportionately hose young people. Young people want to open up which puts older people at more risk of contracting Covid.
And it’s become a Left-Right issue, with the Right and Trump firmly on the side of opening back up.

This might be the first election ever where young people vote mostly conservative and older people vote mostly left.

Shaman says

mell says

Also note that kids always have been more left than grown-ups -

And it’s this election that might disprove the rule. Young people are getting absolutely hosed by lockdown policies largely enacted by the elderly, promoted by people who are Middle Aged+. It’s a simple dichotomy between older and younger people. Older people want lockdowns which disproportionately hose young people. Young people want to open up which puts older people at more risk of contracting Covid.
And it’s become a Left-Right issue, with the Right and Trump firmly on the side of opening back up.

This might be the first election ever where young people vote mostly conservative and older people vote mostly left.

I'm not as convinced but really hope so and optimistic - esp. since the current fudged poll numbers mean jack.

mell says

Yes, the educational environment has always been more left leaning, but what's going on in todays schools an universities is unprecedented.

Not if you ask China, Vietnam, Cuba, or Venezuela. Communism always gets its foothold in the Universities of the Host Country it infects.

Tenpoundbass says

mell says

Yes, the educational environment has always been more left leaning, but what's going on in todays schools an universities is unprecedented.

Not if you ask China, Vietnam, Cuba, or Venezuela. Communism always gets its foothold in the Universities of the Host Country it infects.

That sad reality started with Plato's original "Academy." Plato's "Philosopher King" was essentially a communist dictator.

The academic environment fosters a very distorted view of one person having far superior knowledge than the others in the classroom. In real life, pluralisitic political decision making, like in (qualified) voting by economically competent/independent in a republic, makes for better results because nobody has all the answers in the real world, quite unlike the exams in the academic environment.

Shaman says

FuckCCP89 says

Shaman says

Latinx

Why there is suddenly an "x" at the end of that word?

Because of the gender specific nature of the Spanish language, a different word is required. Rather than Latino (male) or Latina (female) we go with Latinx.
That’s the reason and it seems reasonable to me.

English word "Latin" is already gender-neutral. The "x" is simply redundant.

Karloff says

This is exactly what he was voted in to prevent, not push forward.

I wouldn't worry, Trump was talking out his ass to a Cuban American reporter. He was just being Trump, word salad with a dash of dementia. Its like infrastructure week recurring regularly, nothing done. In other words it a hoax.

rdm says

Karloff says

This is exactly what he was voted in to prevent, not push forward.

I wouldn't worry, Trump was talking out his ass to a Cuban American reporter. He was just being Trump, word salad with a dash of dementia. Its like infrastructure week recurring regularly, nothing done. In other words it a hoax.

Bullshit - DACA was problematic since many kids here would be hard to find and have cut ties with family abroad, it makes sense to give them a one time path to citizenship as longs as you close all the loopholes of coming into this country illegal in the first place and stop the practice of anchor babies. Politics is always also about what's practical, and I don't want to spend money on ICE running around to find Daca kids in a cat and mouse game. If they take the legal path extended to them great, if not and they surface then kick them out. Also the SCOTUS has ruled on this and there's no point in fighting it. Let's be pragmatic about it and that's exactly what Trump is in this case.

mell says

Bullshit - DACA was problematic since many kids here would be hard to find and have cut ties with family abroad, it makes sense to give them a one time path to citizenship as longs as you close all the loopholes of coming into this country illegal in the first place and stop the practice of anchor babies. Politics is always also about what's practical, and I don't want to spend money on ICE running around to find Daca kids in a cat and mouse game. If they take the legal path extended to them great, if not and they surface then kick them out. Also the SCOTUS has ruled on this and there's no point in fighting it. Let's be pragmatic about it and that's exactly what Trump is in this case.

"Nothing can be done so surrender is only practical and financially prudent".

Now, where do we surrender next? Trade with China?

FuckCCP89 says

mell says

Bullshit - DACA was problematic since many kids here would be hard to find and have cut ties with family abroad, it makes sense to give them a one time path to citizenship as longs as you close all the loopholes of coming into this country illegal in the first place and stop the practice of anchor babies. Politics is always also about what's practical, and I don't want to spend money on ICE running around to find Daca kids in a cat and mouse game. If they take the legal path extended to them great, if not and they surface then kick them out. Also the SCOTUS has ruled on this and there's no point in fighting it. Let's be pragmatic about it and that's exactly what Trump is in this case.

"Nothing can be done so surrender is only practical and financially prudent".

Now, where do we surrender next? Trade with China?

You can say similar things about Irish Americans, German, Polish who didn't always follow the law but were naturalized. The point is to secure the borders in the first place and abolish anchor babies and trafficking. I'm all for kicking criminals out, no matter the age, but the SCOTUS has ruled that the program needs to keep going, even with Trump's conservative picks. Some may say he was betrayed but it doesn't matter, that's why there's a SCOTUS. If he can somehow put a solid policy in place that replaces the current Daca or can even end it so it will be approved by the SCOTUS if challenged it's a win because in the meantime he can't do anything except for keeping it going in its current poorly defined form with many loop holes. I don't consider that surrender. I'd rather have the borders solidified and trafficking being stopped so you don't create the problem of unaccountable children in the first place.

mell says

I'd rather have the borders solidified and trafficking being stopped

Unconditional surrender on DACA won't bring these closer. If anything it makes the enemy bolder and eager to push for more concessions.

And remind me how that "amnesty in exchange for border security" deal worked the last time it was tried...

FuckCCP89 says

mell says

I'd rather have the borders solidified and trafficking being stopped

Unconditional surrender on DACA won't bring these closer. If anything it makes the enemy bolder and eager to push for more concessions.

And remind me how that "amnesty in exchange for border security" deal worked the last time it was tried...

That's a valid point, however Trump needs all the independents he can get come November or sleepy creepy demented Joe will plunge this country into chaos. I think it's not practical to actively look for DACA kids to expel them, the money can be used elsewhere on security much better.

mell says

That's a valid point, however Trump needs all the independents he can get come November

Well, last time everyone was screaming about him needing to "move to the center" in order to win, "because conventional wisdom". He went the opposite way and won. So IDK if it helps or harms him in the end, but I'm severely disappointed. Of course my vote as CA resident doesn't count in POTUS elections.

I fucking HATE anchor babies unless it's those that are at the bottom of the ocean.

mell says

I think it's not practical to actively look for DACA kids to expel them, the money can be used elsewhere on security much better.

It's easy if the proper legislation is in place. They'll come find the authorities when they:

1. Can't get a job.
2. Can't go to school.
3. Can't get free shit.

They'll be asking for a ticket out if and only if that's their only option.

I'm totally against this. We learned this lesson from Reagan. This will just encourage more.

I think we need to go further and invalidate all the fucking anchor babies that were dropped here going back to Reagan. There are literal baby mills in CA where Chinese fly in, pop em out, get their cert then go back to China.

Fuck this. No other country in the world accepts this shit so I don't either.

Also, I realize that would suck for a lot of people but it'll teach a damn good lesson.

rdm says

word salad with a dash of dementia

You're not going to vote for Biden. Are you?

Shaman says

Because of the gender specific nature of the Spanish language, a different word is required. Rather than Latino (male) or Latina (female) we go with Latinx.
That’s the reason and it seems reasonable to me.

The word you are looking for is Hispanic.

just_adhom_preaching says

mell says

I think it's not practical to actively look for DACA kids to expel them, the money can be used elsewhere on security much better.

It's easy if the proper legislation is in place. They'll come find the authorities when they:

1. Can't get a job.
2. Can't go to school.
3. Can't get free shit.

They'll be asking for a ticket out if and only if that's their only option.

I'm totally against this. We learned this lesson from Reagan. This will just encourage more.

I think we need to go further and invalidate all the fucking anchor babies that were dropped here going back to Reagan. There are literal baby mills in CA where Chinese fly in, pop em out, get their cert then go back to China.

Fuck this. No other country in the world accepts this shit so I don't either.

Word!

Shaman says

That’s the reason and it seems reasonable to me.

Using the term latinx...Indoctrination is complete....Sounds stupid to me....like when you have kids, they are your hijos even though its a mix of males and females......now you want them to be called hijx?...lol

Me too. I always liked the gender pronunciations in the romance languages. The left fucking ruins everything.

ignoreme says

The word you are looking for is Hispanic.

Thought that only applied to people from the West Indies. Cubans and Dominicans and such. Cubans sure don’t identify with Central Americans on much.

TexMex have referred to themselves as Hispanic since at least the 80s. I don't know how long. Isn't that a term Nixon came up with?

When I moved back to CA and there were way more Mexicans vs. when I was a kid I thought it strange that they kept calling themselves Latina/o.

just_adhom_preaching says

I think we need to go further and invalidate all the fucking anchor babies that were dropped here going back to Reagan. There are literal baby mills in CA where Chinese fly in, pop em out, get their cert then go back to China.

Fuck this. No other country in the world accepts this shit so I don't either.

That is logistically a nearly impossible task though and very expensive. Going forward We need to shut down anchor babies. You will need to also change birthplace citizenship in the legislature which I don't think is going to happen, so I would focus on prevention. People from poorer countries are constantly encouraged to come here unless you take away the benefits and only grant them those benefits if they legally acquire citizenship while keeping certain conditions (providing for themselves and not committing any crimes similar to visa holders, and of course there's a quota as well). Giving some a path to do so I have nothing against it and the administration for now has to comply with the SCOTUS decision anyways. The issue is we have to take away benefits for currently illegal/undocumented immigrants which the Dems are hell-bent on keeping and blocking anything trying to clean this up. There are countries who accept far worse - on paper and for a White person it's very hard to become a German since the don't grant birthplace citizenship like the US, however many European countries have been letting in and eventually naturalizing rapefugees at no limits while providing for them. Eastern Europe and Asia have the tightest immigration controls.

Well mell, just call ME a dreamer then haha. I'd also like to add to that we should roll back the immigration law changes from LBJs tenure.

I know it won't happen. Thus, the start of my potential exit plans.

I have a cousin who pilots United. He loves it in Costa Rica and get this: Guatemala!

He grew up in Houston. He says those countries are with respect to the US like the US used to be government-wise.

If he retires in one like he plans then I'll be able to target that area from Florida on my boat!

I was quite surprised that he's considering Guatemala. He's there all the time though and thinks it's safe.

I heard mixed stories about central America, a hippie ex-GF had only good things to say but she never had any bad luck. One of my former buddies and colleagues tried to visit Venezuela, got robbed at gunpoint and pistol whipped pretty much fresh out of the plane at the train station and had to return right away through the consulate. I traveled the Baja California only, but for quite a bit and only had good experiences. I'm thinking Eastern Europe or Austria/Switzerland or even Germany or Italy (depending on the political climate), rural US like coastal Maine but who knows. Still have to do a lot of paperwork so won't be ready til 2021 unfortunately. If Trump doesn't win, the remaining 6-12 months in CA could be painful. I need to stay close to Family which is in Europe and US, so East coast would be optimal if there will be any remaining refugiums, most likely out of CA though, maybe a small chance for wine country. Florida may be a good spot as well, cheap and except for Miami conservative and close to nice vacation destinations. Humid though.

mell says

got robbed at gunpoint and pistol whipped pretty much fresh out of the plane at the train station and had to return right away through the consulate.

Holy fuck!

mell says

Humid though.

Big problem for me when I was a kid in South Texas. I shave my head now so no more bad hair days!

komputodo says

hijos even though its a mix of males and females

putas y cabrones

just_adhom_preaching says

He loves it in Costa Rica

Costa is nice. I have only spent a week there in the Tamarindo area, so a tourist spot. I'm 6'3" and the other family we went with, the husband looks like the fucking hulk, so we probably weren't easy targets. Most the problems in that area from my understanding are petty theft, as is usually the case with a more touristy areas. I'm on a FB page and there are quite a few home burglaries more inland from the coast.

Costa also has this reputation as some "eco friendly" vacation spot. Place is pretty dirty. Hour or so drive from Liberia to Tamarindo and it didn't live up to the eco reputation at all. I think it's just a marketing ploy by the government tourism program. Trash everywhere. Infrastructure is still close to 3rd world in most areas as well. We technically stayed in Play Langosta and they had supposedly been rebuilding a ~1,000' section of road for 2 years. Workers using pick axes to break up dirt. No excavators to be seen. My wife is in the construction field and it was a 1 month job at longest with probably a crew of 6-8.

I've only been to both once, but Aruba and Curacao are nice. Had no feeling of being unsafe in either, where there were a few times in Costa I definitely felt I needed to be more alert. No hurricanes, same with Costa though they have a wet and dry season. Hurricanes would suck, but you can't go wrong with USVI's or PR either and traveling in and out we be much easier. And supposedly there's some massive tax advantage if PR is your primary place of residence.

PR will probably be my winter spring home and I'd get out of dodge July to end of October to avoid hurricanes and would probably go to Curacao. Own in PR and rent in Curacao. San Juan airport is nice too and unlike most US airports has a nice lounge if you have that access. I just love the Caribbean and would eventually like to get into sailing which is another reason to be there. Some of the best in the world.