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Trump: "Chinese virus, the best thing that ever happened in my Presidency."
ThreeBays saysTrump: "Chinese virus, the best thing that ever happened in my Presidency."I totally agree with that
Confirmed Cases: 712
Deaths: 10 (1.4%)
Serious/Critical Condition: 15 (2.1%)
5 weeks, almost 4000 Passengers and Crew, exceptionally aged and chronically ill, only ~700 cases, and ~10 deaths.
My Prediction:
1) Over 2 million Americans already have COVID-19 and around 1% of them are unfortunately going to die no matter what, so in 3 weeks we will be over 20,000 deaths. Possibly more since the contagion will be particularly acute in certain cities, thereby overloading certain hospitals.
2) The number of deaths after that fully depends on state actions. It's likely that any state that has an active outbreak will continue to be on lock-down, which should have the case numbers flatten and hopefully decline as long as that continues.
All the deaths are hoaxware perpetrated by crisis actors.
Alex Jones told me on the Hal Turner show.
Too many people are in too much pain.
CovfefeButDeadly saysSo you agree that this is no more deadly than the seasonal flu? Yes by rate, but no by sheer numbers?
Need to be much more specific. I agree the numbers in the next 3 week period will be no higher than annual flu deaths, if we keep the economy fucked. They will likely pass annual flu deaths in a 6 week period, and we won't be out of the woods yet.
Prediction:
Total US deaths from Wuhan virus will be lower than deaths from the 2018 flu epidemic in the US.
CovfefeButDeadly saysI do find it funny that you phrase it as “if we keep the economy fucked” like you’d somehow handle things differently. It’s so obvious you badly want to pin this on President Trump that you try to play both sides of the fence. Pretty ridiculous really.
Not at all, I think that keeping the economy fucked is the least bad option.
The reason I made a point to say "keep the economy fucked" is because the right wing propaganda is out in full force pretending that the virus was never a big deal by misquoting and misinterpreting any statement.
If Fauci went on the record saying "After we keep everybody locked in their homes for 3 months we will have only 40,000 deaths which will be no worse than seasonal flu" the right wing fake news machine and Patrick would report: We have been mislead to close our economy! Coronavirus is less deadly than seasonal flu! Fauci ...
Based on selective quoting of Fauci's own paper.
Prediction:
Total US deaths from Wuhan virus will be lower than deaths from the 2018 flu epidemic in the US.
OK, the bet is on:
Patrick: less than 81,000
Fauci: 100,000 minimum
https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections
The government's current estimate is apparently this.
81114 deaths. (40k to 160k range) through August.
They predicted 1.6 to 2.2 million fatalities if they didn't mitigate
I'm concerned that in Italy's numbers, they've peaked but haven't declined for a week. That's worrying in that it could mean the R value has been cut to around 1 but not significantly below 1 withe the current measures, and it may take even more draconian lockdowns and more time to decline.
Patrick saysOK, the bet is on:
Patrick: less than 81,000
Fauci: 100,000 minimum
I say 65k or less. Likely less. Comparable to the flu.
Getting ready for the "We're not out of the woods, yet." as the numbers slow and eventually plateau.
"Reopening the economy now would be mass murder." says Taxpayer-paid Ed Administrator on full pay $120k indefinite Coronavirus quasi-vacation, drinking her $1000 coffee machine coffee.
That's a lot of $120k do nothing jobs that will be cut. Once reality set in, we will see the reactions from state/ local government employees.
There's simply no reason to be paying teachers their full pay right nowIf they're going to indoctrinate within the context of race/gender/sexual orientation/global warming. There should be a demand that if you're a teacher, you stick to the proverbial "three R's".
This is going to be the first time in my lifetime and probably everyone else here, where we're going to see government jobs go away. They'll come back, but people that always thought they were protected are going to get a real awakening. Sales tax is a biggie and you can't eat out 10x's a day when things get back to normal. The money is gone.
I think teachers are gonna start getting heat soon here. Half the job is to babysit and keep the kids alive while under their care. There's simply no reason to be paying teachers their full pay right now if you're a taxpayer in a district that's doing e-learning (bullshit) or simply cancelled spring semester. If left leaning folks wanted to stick it to the rich, since UE benefits are guaranteed by the feds for 4 months, they should want teachers laid off. But they're too stupid to think like that.
One monster banging around in that fog is the narrative that China started this thing simply to get rid of Mr. Trump. There’s a real baby-and-bathwater proposition. Would China, in effect, blow up its export economy for that, i.e. commit suicide? Because a lot of those prior arrangements will probably not come back — the manufacturing supply lines for this-and-that, the fabulous cornucopia of plastic goodies extruded from all those smoking factories and flushed out to the world, the whole glorious let’s-get-rich extravaganza that Deng Xiaoping kicked off forty years ago. It’s looking like the global economy is on the rocks, perhaps for good, as we knew it. Is China as plumb crazy as, for instance, America’s political Left?
If anything, China has only validated Mr. Trump’s point that America bargained away its industrial independence, and must become more self-sufficient again. True enough. Where I depart from MAGA is my sense that the industrial age itself has probably shot its wad
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