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errc says

Moderation is what it is: heavily biased favortism towards right wingers and not friendly to everyone else . Fair and Balanced

Moderation here is simply "no personal attacks". I had my posts removed when I said some personal stuff too. Moderators aren't out to get you errc, it's the Democratic party who constantly taxes you... those are the people out to get you and your money.

Goran_K says

This is false, out of the moderation crew, maybe ONE is a hardcore Republican. Everyone else is various shades of left/right. I'd say WookieMan is more left leaning, I'm right down the middle, and so is mell.

WRONG! Anyone to the right of Pol Pot is clearly a RADICAL CONSERVATIVE!

CovfefeButDeadly says

Patrick, can you please ban drunk posting?

Exactly what I was thinking.

There's definitely a pattern at night that's been established!

Patrick says

mysql> select user_name from users where user_level=3;
+-------------------+
| user_name |
+-------------------+
| TwoScoopsPlissken |
| zzyzzx |
| Goran_K |
| WookieMan |
| mell |
+-------------------+

Pat, that's raw sql output. I never took you for a command line type.

Sniper says

CovfefeButDeadly says

Patrick, can you please ban drunk posting?

Exactly what I was thinking.

There's definitely a pattern at night that's been established!

Come on, it's fun to drunk post! I do it at least 10% of the time.

It would be interesting if someone created a forum and USB breathalyzer that had to be blown into to make a comment on a topic. Wonder how much comment traffic would fall off on many sites?

WookieMan says

Sniper says

CovfefeButDeadly says

Patrick, can you please ban drunk posting?

Exactly what I was thinking.

There's definitely a pattern at night that's been established!

Come on, it's fun to drunk post! I do it at least 10% of the time.

It would be interesting if someone created a forum and USB breathalyzer that had to be blown into to make a comment on a topic. Wonder how much comment traffic would fall off on many sites?

Actually that could be awesome...I’d somehow each post you made displayed your BAC....lol @ someone’s increasing as the time went on...

PeopleUnited says

Name one idea (other than a personal attack or an attack on this site) that users are not 100% free to express here. Name one.

Thank you @PeopleUnited !

OMFG, there will no doubt be a takedown notice from Quaker Oats' legal team coming soon to Vimeo!

I'd very much welcome a point about something other than the other users.

I really do not want to see any comments about any other user. It just begs for flame wars.

I still don't understand how this is controversial. Why is it that certain people (usually very left leaning) can't disagree with something without a personal insult? It astounds me that they really feel like their rights are being taken away. It's actually funny to read all of this need for clarification. Were they just not raised properly?

I didn't see a post on it, but I think U is banned now?

You son of a bitch!

You bitch!

Capital Y seems to be a problem with the U filter. Just a guess.

Yup, Cap Y is a problem You ass wipe! ;)

You

This is another test. Please note the above was sarcasm.

You

Thanks @WookieMan

I failed to consider capitalization.

Y-o-u is now also disallowed.

I know people can work around it, but I hope they won't. Just trying to pre-empt flame wars. If anyone has suggestions for alternate means of flame extinguishment, please say.

why remove that word? how can someone say "what do u think?" or some other use for that word?

Sorry @Patrick

Are U testing some things? I had "U" in a some comments that I tried to post and it didn't work. Got a prompt not to talk about other users. U is a tough word to not allow even though I get the logic behind the move. "U" in many cases can be used in the group sense and not directed at an individual. No problem with giving it a shot, just might be a bit more difficult to write certain things. There's also the fact I just used the letter u to get the comment through.

Not trying to break the system out of the gate, but I think u can see how it may not work.

Y-o-u-r doesn't post either FYI @Patrick

Much agreed.

WookieMan says

Sorry @Patrick

Are U testing some things? I had "U" in a some comments that I tried to post and it didn't work. Got a prompt not to talk about other users. U is a tough word to not allow even though I get the logic behind the move. "U" in many cases can be used in the group sense and not directed at an individual. No problem with giving it a shot, just might be a bit more difficult to write certain things. There's also the fact I just used the letter u to get the comment through.

Not trying to break the system out of the gate, but I think u can see how it may not work.

Yes, I'm trying an experiment to see if I can raise consciousness of how often we refer to a person rather than the person's argument.

I know it's a bit annoying, but let's try it for a while. Thank U!

Patrick says

Yes, I'm trying an experiment to see if I can raise consciousness of how often we refer to a person rather than the person's argument.

I know it's a bit annoying, but let's try it a bit. Thank U!

Right on! If we stopped trying things we'd still all be living in caves.

WookieMan says

Y-o-u-r doesn't post either FYI @Patrick

Yes, by design.

There might also be other words I had not considered that contain the forbidden string.

ending the forbidden word with an R and self doesn't work either. Though that may follow the same logic in banning now that I think about it.

This u thing is kind of annoying.

You're right, it's just too annoying.

Reverted.

Other suggestions for stopping personal attacks and sticking to arguments?

I don’t think there is anything other than encouragement. It’s human nature.

I know I had one post deleted, that made me think about it more carefully.

Patrick says

You're right, it's just too annoying.

Reverted.

Other suggestions for stopping personal attacks and sticking to arguments?

Not sure you can "stop" personal attacks on the internet. Idiots on Facebook will comment in their own name with outrageous comments. Throw the anonymity that we have here and it's probably impossible if people are willing to post dumb ass shit with their actual name on it on FB.

I wish there was a way, as 99% of people here very likely wouldn't behave the way they do if they met each other at a bar sitting at the airport waiting for a flight. This includes some of the biggest head butters here. They'd all be cordial to each other in real life if they didn't know that they met their Patnet nemesis.

Unfortunately anonymity breeds ass holes in some people. The written word also breeds ass holes. Really think about the written word and how long people have used it or have been able to understand it. I know boomers, including a family member at that age, that literally can't read. Born in the fucking 1950's.

Reading has been a privilege for a long time. So has writing and now typing. The lowest common denominator has been brought up to what was once a privileged class if you think about it. With that change, intellectual conversation has been brought down to it's lowest levels. This is where we stand. Not sure you're going to prevent the personal attacks unfortunately.

Patrick says

Yes, I'm trying an experiment to see if I can raise consciousness of how often we refer to a person rather than the person's argument.

The problem is, that word can also be used asking a legitimate question of another poster.

"Can "y*u" give me a stock tip?"

"Where did "y*u" go on vacation?"

"Will "y*u" provide a link to that data"?

"What type of car do "y*u" drive"?

There are many instances where it has a legitimate use. Yo*'re just being too anal about it.

Sniper says

"Can "y*u" give me a stock tip?"

No.

Sniper says

"Where did "y*u" go on vacation?"

Florida, last week.

Sniper says

"Will "y*u" provide a link to that data"?

I'm not a link guy. Don't believe what you read/see on the internet. Or books. Or anything really. We all come out a vagina and then die at some point. Links. Don't. Matter.

Sniper says

"What type of car do "y*u" drive"?

A POS right now. Fuck car payments though. Not real interested in dropping cash on a car right now either. Point A to B is all that matters really and it does that. Wifey gets the nice car, bitch.

Sniper says

Are Y*u drunk posting again? :)

Are you? Kidding, aside you can post the word you again FYI.

And I do know they weren't supposed to be answered. Though the answers were real. Take it for what it's worth. The beach in FL was great. Got some sun and some relaxation, BAM! And my car still does suck.

WookieMan says

Are you? Kidding, aside you can post the word you again FYI.

WTF, awful comma usage on my, end, on this one.

WookieMan says

WookieMan says

Are you? Kidding, aside you can post the word you again FYI.

WTF, awful comma usage on my, end, on this one.

Better be careful here, the Mods charge by the keystroke!

Youse.

Sniper says

Those questions weren't suppose to be answered.

Are Y*u drunk posting again? :)

@Patrick - One thing I've noticed about the moderation is the sequence of posts as they get "put" back into the thread. I quoted this comment in my own comment above, but at some point it got put in the moderation "bin" or whatever we want to call it. I then approved it. The comment is now lower on the comments, even though it was posted earlier and quoted by me.

Is it possible to have the comments in moderation, go back to where they were originally? I feel like it causes confusion in the flow of the comments.

Those questions weren't suppose to be answered.

WookieMan says

Come on, it's fun to drunk post! I do it at least 10% of the time.

Are Y*u drunk posting again? :)