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if Clinton didn't push for it-it wouldn't have happened
Sure---there are Dems that are for free trade. And there are some Reps that are against it. But, it is still 100% true that, in general, Dems are AGAINST unmitigated free trade and Reps are FOR it.
in general, Dems are AGAINST unmitigated free trade and Reps are FOR it.
So the obvious solution for this election cycle is to elect democratic congressmen who are closer to Bernie in willingness to support workers and the people, and to elect Trump as POTUS. Best of both worlds! Unless you'd like to argue that the Clintons would somehow reign in destructive free trade and H1B job displacement and rampant immigration of people that hate us. That's going to be a really tough sell, though!
Economists say Clinton's tax plan offers nothing for anyone except Clinton Foundation Donors and $350,000-per-speech-givers-to-Goldman-Sachs (as well as Goldman Sachs Execs and other literal financial parasites draining the blood of the American working/middle class).
So the obvious solution for this election cycle is to elect democratic congressmen who are closer to Bernie in willingness to support workers and the people, and to elect Trump as POTUS. Best of both worlds! Unless you'd like to argue that the Clintons would somehow reign in destructive free trade and H1B job displacement and rampant immigration of people that hate us. That's going to be a really tough sell, though!
If you're voting only on trade, then I agree.
Sure---there are Dems that are for free trade. And there are some Reps that are against it. But, it is still 100% true that, in general, Dems are AGAINST unmitigated free trade and Reps are FOR it.
That is not history. The biggest transformative trade deal-NAFTA- is there only because of the Clintons. The tPP is ahead-and negotiated in secret by the const scholar-only because of the Clintons and Obama.
If they didn't push/lobby-the bill wouldn't be where it is.
On other policies-if you want more feminazis, SJWs, BLM, murder of cops, riots, fork over more taxes to give to bums-well Clinton is your pick. Enough of this crap. Obamacare is a disaster for anybody who is upper middle class -dems are stealing from the upper middle class-leaving the rich alone and giving to the welfare hordes. At least cut immigration and give them jobs-nope, that is racist.
The biggest transformative trade deal-NAFTA- is there only because of the Clintons.
True--he had to twist a LOT of the Democratic Congressmen's arms to get it passed. Most of the small number of Dems that voted for it were initially against it until Clinton leaned on them. Clinton was a moderate Republican--the Dems nominated him because they were tired of losing.
Not sure what you are arguing. Clintons don't equal Dems. Hillary is basically a Republican too.
Not sure what you are arguing. Clintons don't equal Dems. Hillary is basically a Republican too
Yet many dems willl vote for her. What I am saying is some of the most anti little people acts were brought to us by the dem Presidents-NAFTA, repeal of Glass Steagal and now TPP. Obozocare is very anti middle class and so did Obozo's attempt to get rid of the college credit -luckily the middle class revolted and the clown shelved it. He takes money from the rich and so leaves them alone or provides loopholes and screws the middle class in favor of the welfare hordes.
Why anyone would want to vote in another clone of these fools is just odd.
Now having voted for Obozo once, I hold no hopes for trump either. Obozo promised the moon and turned out to be a dog-oh I guess that makes me a racist. But Trump at least is saying he is trying a different way and will give him a chance. if he fails-then he will do what Hilalry is peddling-so no loss.
Yet many dems willl vote for her. What I am saying is some of the most anti little people acts were brought to us by the dem Presidents-NAFTA, repeal of Glass Steagal and now TPP. Obozocare is very anti middle class and so did Obozo's attempt to get rid of the college credit -luckily the middle class revolted and the clown shelved it. He takes money from the rich and so leaves them alone or provides loopholes and screws the middle class in favor of the welfare hordes.
Why anyone would want to vote in another clone of these fools is just odd.
And what I'm saying is that your complaint is that some of the Dem presidents are too conservative. So, why would you want to vote for candidates that are MORE conservative than Clinton or Obama?
We need more common sense and less political bullshit influencing our government. That's why Trump is appealing to many people. He's giving the straight scoop on our nation's woes, attributing the problems to their leftist originators, and not really caring who he offends in the process. Most people aren't in favor of the current climate of political correctness. We need more solutions and fewer rioting whiny bitches demanding handouts. We need pragmatic government, not theoretical Maoism that makes no sense to anyone with common sense. And Hillary is the biggest C.U.N.T. (Cant Understand Normal Thinking) of them all.
And what I'm saying is that your complaint is that some of the Dem presidents are too conservative. So, why would you want to vote for candidates that are MORE conservative than Clinton or Obama?
That is not conservative-money-hungry, corrupt leeches. Donald Trump is at least saying he wants to do something for the little people-saying for now. But Hillary claims TPP is the gold standard of trade deals.
Donald Trump is at least saying he wants to do something for the little people-saying for now
Agreed, but his economic team and tax proposal clearly say otherwise.
Sharingmyintelligencewiththedumbasses says
It really is unbelievable how either A. stupid. or B Big of a liar you are.
I still want to know which filthy third world country you are from.
Agreed, but his economic team and tax proposal clearly say otherwise
How is it otherwise -the 15% corporate tax rate will put a stop to inversions . The reduction in fines to 10% will allow companies to bring in money.
The simplification of tax code to 12, 25, 33 would be a ground swell. Many people will benefit from the middle tax rates.
Now if only he can repeal the stupid FATCA that the clown OBozo pushed and signed into law and the horrible oBozocare.
Plus he talks about renegotiating trade deals to our benefits-which would be just common sense. You don't trade to make losses. Corporations maybe gaining, but millions and millions of Americans losing jobs and going to welfare is not a gain. What cna they learn and move into that si not being offshored?
Except Trump , nobody talks about that-the ice queen supports more loss of jobs and more of the same. The choice is clear in this election-you may call them repub policies-but Obama/Hillary/Bill champion them. You may call them dem policies-but Trump champions them.
Bottom line--reducing taxes on the 1% doesn't benefit the little guy. Increasing the deficit doesn't help the little guy. And any tax plan that is approved by Heritage is 100% guaranteed to screw the little guy.
His whole plan is a giant payoff to the 1% and a big middle finger to the lower and middle classes.
He is reducing tax on everybody-that si everybody who pays. I welcome it-maybe the bums can do without sec 8 and the military cna reduce some spending. But am egtting tired of paying. You are in CHicago-seriously the last two year's of property taxes by the all dem gubmnt is what you aspire to. How does that help the little guy?
As Senator, Hillary promised to create 200,000 in Upstate New York. While many of her cronies and donors were given money to develop the region, it lost 25% of manufacturing jobs during her term. The region stagnated, with lost high wage, benefit jobs being replaced with shitty wage, no benefit temp/part time McJobs.
y. And any tax plan that is approved by Heritage is 100% guaranteed to screw the little guy.
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Right. Just like ppACA
He is reducing tax on everybody-that si everybody who pays. I welcome it-maybe the bums can do without sec 8 and the military cna reduce some spending. But am egtting tired of paying. You are in CHicago-seriously the last two year's of property taxes by the all dem gubmnt is what you aspire to. How does that help the little guy?
If you believe that he is reducing tax on everyone who pays--I've got a bridge to sell you in San Francisco.
But, I'm sure CIC will have no problem with him adding untold $$ to the deficit since it's Trump.
I don't live in the city--my ridiculously high property taxes are due to Reps.
Really? The Shitcago area is managed by Repubs?
Calling it Shitcago instead of Chicago is pure genius. I don't know how you come with this stuff.
But, to answer your question, yes. The board of the county I live in is about 2/3 Rep.
Sure---there are Dems that are for free trade. And there are some Reps that are against it. But, it is still 100% true that, in general, Dems are AGAINST unmitigated free trade and Reps are FOR it.
Hillary says free visas for everyone with a tech degree. Outsourcing on steroids.
Trump says we cut outsourcing.
Who's the outsourcer here again Taputu? Not like the candidates keep that a secret...
Hillary says free visas for everyone with a tech degree. Outsourcing on steroids.
Trump says we cut outsourcing.Who's the outsourcer here again Taputu? Not like the candidates keep that a secret...
Are you under the impression that I think Hillary is anti-trade?
So the obvious solution for this election cycle is to elect democratic congressmen who are closer to Bernie in willingness to support workers and the people, and to elect Trump as POTUS. Best of both worlds! Unless you'd like to argue that the Clintons would somehow reign in destructive free trade and H1B job displacement and rampant immigration of people that hate us. That's going to be a really tough sell, though!
If you're voting only on trade, then I agree.
Again, Hillary demonstrated as Senator she cannot create good jobs. Good jobs were lost, and what were replaced were shitty McJobs.
I'll take the guy with no track record and the rhetoric, over the "experienced" failure.
We know for a fact just how destructive Clintons are to our economy. We are still dealing with the fallout from Bill's presidency and he was last elected 20 years ago!
What could possibly be more important than strengthening our economy? Well perhaps defending our borders from enemies and people who hate us. So that's twice as nice for Trump. He might be a big dumb animal like Chris Farley when it comes to politics and peoples' tender feelings about things that are WRONG, but he isn't wrong about the things that really matter.
Bottom line: are you going to vote for a proven disaster like Clinton because Trump said some mean things that hurt your feelings?
Aww, wee lamb!
American Action Forum
Took a break from your subscription to American Ass Forum... which has about as good of analysis as the former!
We know for a fact just how destructive Clintons are to our economy. We are still dealing with the fallout from Bill's presidency
you mean like balanced budgets, and even budget surpluses? robust growth?
wow, you rightwingtards really are too stupid to even know simple facts!
Are you under the impression that I think Hillary is anti-trade?
Hillary is all for outsourcing, she even promised to start replacing American workers with foreigners, as long as they have degrees.
That's one hell of a "fuck you" to the working class.
Bottom line: are you going to vote for a proven disaster like Clinton because Trump said some mean things that hurt your feelings?
Aww, wee lamb!
Bottom line?? Are you kidding me? If I don't vote for Trump, it will because he is a blabbering idiot who probably couldn't name 10 countries in NATO if I gave him 7. He think it's OK to use nuclear weapons as a first resort. His tax plan is worse than Romney's was and is a blatant giveaway to the 1%. Sounds suspiciously like it was written by Heritage Foundation.
The bottom line is that Trump doesn't even want to be President and has said as much to his VP picks. It will be a Pence Presidency. Good luck with that.
Hillary is all for outsourcing, she even promised to start replacing American workers with foreigners, as long as they have degrees.
That's one hell of a "fuck you" to the working class.
Actually, every research paper ever done on the subject has shown that highly skilled immigration adds to jobs overall. Sure, someone with an MS in electrial engineering comes in, takes a job, but a few years later, moves along, starts a business. Sure a hell of a lot better to have them here, then sending the money to india or china.
They become american, stay raise families... contribute to the economy.
You have to look more than one move on the chess board!
Sharingmyintelligencewiththedumbasses says
Actually, every research paper ever done on the subject has shown that highly skilled immigration adds to jobs overall
Every research paper written by companies who are looking to increase number of people competing for the same job say exactly that thing you are so happy about.
Sharingmyintelligencewiththedumbasses says
Sure, someone with an MS in electrial engineering comes in, takes a job, but a few years later, moves along, starts a business.
If we don't have enough jobs now, it's not the 90's anymore where there were more jobs than people. It's opposite. Race to the bottom thanks to liberals. They think Americans make too much money, nothing puts things in perspective like competing for the same job against some foreigner who is willing to do the same job for 1/10th the pay.
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