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my father being jewish and me being raised jewish doesnt prove or disprove what I say, but it certainly disproves the theory that I have some kind of irrational racist hatred for some group of quasi-middle eastern white people who just so happen to occupy most of the administrative positions in the world.

was in israel roughly 2 years ago.

you can ask Patrick I believe I left some comments here using this login from an Israeli IP address.

The Original Bankster says

you know practically nothing about real judaism obviously.

Actually, I was bar-mitzvahed at Messadah and coached to read Hebrew and read from the Torah by a Haredi, who drove an ancient Dodge with broken windows and my dad and I had to give him a running start.

As a typical, standard reform Jew, the Talmud was about as important to us as Foxe's Book of Martyrs is to a Unitarian-Universalist.

The Talmud is only a collection of stories and commentaries and opinions of rabbis, it does not carry the weight of infallibility and if you approached the subject without tendentious feeling, you would quickly note that what the various stories and analogies mean are subject of hot debate amongst rabbis themselves.

The Original Bankster says

your attempts at condescension and trying to appear as though you have the high ground in this discussion are typical jewish tactics.

It's actually a look of haughty derision.

The Original Bankster says

YOU HAVENT TALKED STRAIGHT TO THEM EVEN ONCE IN YOUR MISERABLE LIFE.

I wasn't straight when I mentioned that the CEOs of the largest Health Insurance companies aren't Jewish?

The Original Bankster says

was in israel roughly 2 years ago.

Roughly 2 years ago? What was the purpose of that visit? Where did you go? I wonder how things have changed since I was there (and I'm not Jewish by the way). And I'm sure that Patrick will have your IP address for the posts you may or may not have made over 2 years ago. I imagine he's straight on that.

By the way, what do you think we should call someone who trots out pretty much every cliched anti-semitic line going? Oh, I forgot, you claim your father is Jewish and therefore you can't possibly be anti-semitic despite posting nothing but anti-semitic comments.

The Original Bankster says

it certainly disproves the theory that I have some kind of irrational racist hatred for some group of quasi-middle eastern white people who just so happen to occupy most of the administrative positions in the world.

They do? Wow, that's impressive. Care to offer up some statistics?

The Original Bankster says

my father being jewish and me being raised jewish doesnt prove or disprove
what I say, but it certainly disproves the theory that I have some kind of
irrational racist hatred for some group of quasi-middle eastern white people who
just so happen to occupy most of the administrative positions in the world.

I was reading the cover of the National Enquirer in line at Walgreens recently and it claimed that jews run all of Hollywood and all of the media.

It sounds as if you are someone to verify that if it's true, because of your statement above, and of course your dad.

Spill the beans, the suspense is killin' me.

Bigsby says

Roughly 2 years ago? What was the purpose of that visit? Where did you go? I wonder how things have changed since I was there (and I'm not Jewish by the way). And I'm sure that Patrick will have your IP address for the posts you may or may not have made over 2 years ago. I imagine he's straight on that.

ואני מדבר עברית

it doesnt really matter. what gets you angry is that everything I say is 100% true and practically all the people who are reading this agree. All these things are fairly evident upon even the most cursory analysis.

actually the last time the whole show came crashing down it was from a renegade jew. one of their own, he had a few things to say about the 'holy people'.

Weill I live in densely Jewish populated area of South Florida, that practically makes me a Goy, and I still wouldn't rant some of these tares. I've known a lot of disillusioned Jewish people who while they weren't religious in any sense of the word. They still didn't stand for people sitting around running their mouths on ignorant rants about Jews, now knock it off. There's some bastards all over the world, they don't know any color, and we're all screwed. All of this fussin and fighting about skin and books, is just more shit to keep us all divided, while the Jews, Whites, Blacks, Italian, Belgian, Chinese, and what other rich bastards out there. Rig the game more for them, and those politicians that they buy.

just for the record, Im not claiming that Jews inherit evilness anymore than irish inherit police badges. Im saying that Jewish religion in particular is responsible for many of the problems we're dealing with. It's a form of ethno-superiority. Anytime any attention is brought to this, it's deflected using various victimhood complexes. Certainly other groups do this, but Jews practically invented the idea.

I'm not full of self-hatred. Most of my family couldn't care less either way, but certainly they do follow many of these patterns, gravitate towards professions that require little work, and make money by looking the other way like accountant or something. It's just part of the program and the way Jews think and operate. They universally mock patriotism and consider these kinds of attitudes to be naive, 'quaint' at best.

who do you think turned Florida into what it is today?

The Original Bankster says

and practically all the people who are reading this agree

Really? And that's supported by what exactly?

And why did you post ואני מדבר עברית?

The Original Bankster says

you can ask Patrick I believe I left some comments here using this login from an Israeli IP address.

Patrick will never do that due to privacy concern. the best way to prove you are part Jewish is to post a picture of yourself holding a sign "The Original Bankster." if you look Jewish you get instant credibility.

Mark D says

The Original Bankster says

you can ask Patrick I believe I left some comments here using this login from an Israeli IP address.

Patrick will never do that due to privacy concern. the best way to prove you are part Jewish is to post a picture of yourself holding a sign "The Original Bankster." if you look Jewish you get instant credibility.

What is "looking jewish"? As I mentioned I have one jewish parent. I dont have a big nose. I look german.

Bigsby says

They do? Wow, that's impressive. Care to offer up some statistics?

Don't hold your breath. We're not going to get any stats on how many "Administrative" positions of power teh evil Jews control or hard numbers of any kind.

Any mention of powerful non-Jewish bankers, government officials, media people, etc. will be met with hand-waving dismissal, like when I brought up Corzine and Kashkari earlier.

I also note that my listing of the diverse opinions of Jews spanning from Bill Kristol to Krugman to Emma Goldman wasn't responded to, because there really is no answer other than Jews aren't of a hive mentality.

Every ethnic group feels or felt themselves superior, every single one. WASPs didn't think themselves Superior in the 19th and half the 20th Century?

Jews are amazing in that they are psychologically incapable of recognizing what their actual role is in world history. Their world view is mainly rational scientific except when they consider their own history in which case they appear to adopta medieval mystical viewpoint and start to use the bible as a historical document.

Jewish history is a very long run on lie that is literally reconstituted in place by imperial powers to break down the cultural norms of a region. They did it in germany, look at the frankfurt school, where every single liberal idea comes from. Israelites where actually reconstituted several times, there were never any true israelites, instead the peopke were repearadly constructed from a stock of physically diminutive and above average intellect. Ie. Useful and easy to control. We speak as though the creation of israel is some kind of miracle, tbis miracle has happened many times in history. Asmof the jews were completey reconstituted upon the return from babylon. Read the book of Ezra. How on earth anyone can rightly claim that israelis have some kind of common heritage aside from all having in common of being the genetic outcasts of europe and near east. Jewish religious practices can be traced to many places including ancient persian and egyptian religion. There were many revolts against this system in history. One was led by a man named Jesse.

And im sure your going to call this antisemitism. I used to buy the same explanations until enough of this information started to creep in and make a far more believable picture than I was given in hebrew school. If you're jewish you're filled with countless victim complexes that cause you to reject these explanations with extreme distaste. You have repeatadly been conditioned to think you are a victim and you deserve societies sympathy. Other religious groups are told the same thing about jews. Its is mathematically impossible for 6 million jews to have been exterminated in the holocaust.

Contrary to popular belief far from all jews are really doing all that well. Growing up, I knew some that were into gangs, drugs, and have spent some time in prison system, you know just like the "thugs." Certainly this takes away from stereotype that they are all part of some organized cabal that controls banking, hollywood and are a think thank of liberal ideology.

The Original Bankster says

their core philosophy is unbridled elitism

They value material success and strive for occupations accordingly, just like chinese, japanese, koreans, indians, lebanese. It is a symptom of a wealthy society.

Certainly many jews are poor. On average though they are the most highly privileged ethnic group on the world.

Midublin hillz says

The Original Bankster says

their core philosophy is unbridled elitism

They value material success and strive for occupations accordingly, just like chinese, japanese, koreans, indians, lebanese. It is a symptom of a wealthy society.

You cant compare jews to other groups, they are nothing like koreans or lebanese. They seem to favor this relativism when being criticized, butvwhen you shower them with complements or grant them land suddenly they unanimously agree they are special.

There is a big taboo against being a normalized citizen of tge host country. Military service, farming, even politics are generally discouraged in favor of doctor, lawyer, financer, anything thst makes money but isnt front facing.

So your jewish friends might think of themselves as jewish, but likely they are not well accepted by other jews.

Read the book The Thirteenth Tribe.

America has a way of naturally destroying the archaic concept of nationalism which is probably the key reason why in the long run it managed to outcompete other nations in aggregate standard of living. Ethnic groups who think they can proceed down a nationalistic path will come to a rude awakening. Along the same lines, both democrats and republicans who are nationalist leaning in united states will eventually end up changed by reality.

The hardest thing for jews to accept is that theyve been lied to.

That the history they inherited from their parents is bullshit. Bullshit that tells them theyre exemplary and chosen, but really they are the worlds biggest chumps and they do the dirty work for the worlds money powers. Many many israeli accept or suspect this because its all right in front of their faces. The see the lie up close. The most clueless group in the equation by far are boomer age american jews, whom israelis quietly despise. Sometimes not so quietly because these awesome pro Zionist jews arent the ones who die when America continually pushes them into a corner with no way out. Dont you find it strange that were friends with the Saudis, AND israel, and Saudi is the main support for the Palestinians and Al Queda?

Did you know that the first thing built in the Jewish state was an oil pipeline? It was built by one of the Rothschilds, whom a street in tel aviv is named after.

dublin hillz says

America has a way of naturally destroying the archaic concept of nationalism which is probably the key reason why in the long run it managed to outcompete other nations in aggregate standard of living. Ethnic groups who think they can proceed down a nationalistic path will come to a rude awakening. Along the same lines, both democrats and republicans who are nationalist leaning in united states will eventually end up changed by reality.

We have a constitution. Our own stone tablets and no one has the authority to change them without proper legal procedure. America has not abandoned nationalism even though some stupid homosexual freaks in san francisco decided it did. Where will these people be when the system goes broke? Israel? The only place where you can indulge in homosexuality in the mid east.

The Original Bankster says

America has not abandoned nationalism

America is a nation of immigrants and has arguably been a country that welcomed immigrants more than any other comparable nation in history. That is an antithesis of nationalism. Regarding nationalism, I think it's evident that bloodbath in middle east after WW2, Nationalist Socialists in germany, communist soviet union disfunction were all rooted due to evils and backwardness of socialism. Heck, look at the current conflict in ukraine! Nationalism stunts potential and essentially causes humanity to act like apes.

If you want to understand zionism, you need to recognize the fact that the political and social arrangement Was created specifically to have constant tension. This tension is used as a diversion from what is really happening, the politocal takeover of the mid east. Clearly the same parties supporting Zionism are also supporting Hamas. Wikileaks proved that netanyahu is actively cooperating with the saudis. Whenever they want to do something, they create some terror activity, then the idf responds by leveling the place, all properly justified and legal according to the un. Again most israelis will agree this is going on. Imagine living in a society where you can be called for potentially life threatening military operations at any moment, and possibly never come back. Do you think youre going to be very outspoken?

Israelis love this story of masada which may have been cpmpletely made up, which is about all the jews gloriously killing each other in a seige. I believe they are using this story to set the stage for something really horrible. Israel and zionism are not sustainable in the least and anyone who tries to fix it for israelis and palis gets killed. They are marching full speed towards war. How on earth could a state like israel exist there with the attitude it has. Its impossible but it continues anyway, mainly due to boomer american jews.

Bgamal youre generally correctvbut unfortunately seems you still have many of these modern fabrications in place. There no such thing as abjewish ethnicity. They were a group in europe with common religious beliefs, some common physical traits. They were often used as a kind of scab, when the peasants werent cooperating they would bring in jews to do the work and make money for the kings. Its a religion for bureaucrats, bankers and merchants. Most jews in the us know precisely nothing about it, their ideas go something likebthus,

Hanging out in the middle age europe cus we got kicked out of israel
Tra la la workin hard, eatin bagels and gefilte fish
Constantly persecuted for no reason, oy vey!
Finally big bad hitler comes and tries to kill us
Thankfully we escaped the clutches of hitler and bought a condo in malibu

Literally this is what most American Jews think.

bgamall4 says

Young American Jews are seeking assimilation and are against the occupation. I hope they are emboldened to speak out much more and they are starting to do so.

There was a big program to get this group on board. Popular kabbalah and birthright israel were part of it.

They are starting to wise up as to what Israel is about. I think its gonna start falling apart when this group really starts to organize. Many young israelis also hate zionism.

The Original Bankster says

Certainly many jews are poor. On average though they are the most highly privileged ethnic group on the world.

So privileged that millions of them were executed in WW2, along with Russian POWs, and Gypsies.
The Original Bankster says

You cant compare jews to other groups, they are nothing like koreans or lebanese. They seem to favor this relativism when being criticized, butvwhen you shower them with complements or grant them land suddenly they unanimously agree they are special.

Who ever heard of somebody who rejected any criticism, but accepted complements?

Jews really aren't like normal humans!

The Original Bankster says

They did it in germany, look at the frankfurt school, where every single liberal idea comes from.

But right-wingers always tell me it comes from Marx's points from the end of the Manifesto? Look, Progressive Taxation, just like Marx wanted!

Didn't the Frankfurt School emerge after the War, after the New Deal?

The Original Bankster says

Read the book The Thirteenth Tribe.

Genetic Studies suggest otherwise:
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/08/ashkenazi-jews-are-probably-not-descended-from-the-khazars/#.Uuq9M6Hpti6
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Khazar_myth

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC18733/

Ashkenazi (European Jews) as a group lack East Asian genomes, something which other Turkic groups - like the Chuvash - despite 1000 years of being surrounded by Slavs and intermixing with them - still predominately retain. What Ashkenazi do have is significant genetic links to Near Eastern, Semitic population groups, despite a long sojourn in Europe, well above that of the typical European population. That is not to say there are NO European genes in Ashkenazi, there are plenty.

In any case, even if the Ashkenazi were all Khazars, it still doesn't explain Sephardic (Spanish and North African Jews) and other Jewish groupings. In fact, Ashkenazi Cohens (Katz, Kahane, Cohn, and other variants) have the greatest concentration of Middle Eastern genetics out of the whole group of Ashkenazi.

The Original Bankster says

Israelis love this story of masada which may have been cpmpletely made up, which is about all the jews gloriously killing each other in a seige.

It's not all about mass suicide, it's about resisting foreign occupation by the Romans. There is no doubt in the world that the Romans besieged the fortress, the doubt is about the numbers and the mass suicides.

Imagine, people turning a defeat into a heroic last stand worthy of song. I mean, who ever heard of such a thing?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kosovo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Ch%27ongch%27on_River
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Cause_of_the_Confederacy

Those Jews, so unlike other humans.

Here's the deal Bgamall.

If a Jew did or said it, it's repeated and emphasized it's coming from a Jew.
If a non-Jew does or says something, it's because he's in the pay of the Jews.

That's what all the anti-Semites do and have done right here in this thread.

A Jew did or said it even if a non-Jew did or said it.

Also, that Warburg quote is unprovenced.

Actual Details
I could not find a source for this quite that was not on a conspiracy site or anti-Jewish site. It seems strange though, why would someone setting up the Federal Reserve System be talking about creating a one world government? Even back then, people realized that a one world government was difficult to come by, if not impossible. I attribute this quote to originating from anti-Semitic individuals who wish to demonize Paul Warburg for his Jewish heritage and show proof of a Jewish plan to rule the world.
Seen
Part III of Zeitgeist, The Movie

http://other.skepticproject.com/articles/quotes/view/21/paul-warburg-wants-to-bring-about-the-nwo/

BTW, I don't doubt that the Wealthy, including Banks and many other Industries, are trying to create a one-world commercial and legal system that benefits them, while allowing them to keep subsidies based on nationalism.

However, greed/class interest, rather than Judaism, is a far simpler and more explanatory reason.

EDIT: Especially given the tremendous number of Jewish activists that are opposed to Globalization and even Capitalism generally.

bgamall4 says

Here is the problem. You do the will of the Warburgs, and you get a job with UBS, like Phil Gramm, who robbed the middle class with the repeal of Glass-Steagall. Gramm was not Jewish, but he was a soldier for the NWO Zionist banksters.

being raised around jews you can start to believe how it is that jews are so often used for these purposes. They are incredibly immoral, as I mentioned before the typical jewish household is a materialistic mom and a morally weak father. theyre just highly corruptible weak people- and of course they are told that they come from the best stock on earth. Practically every jewish success story I know was not because they were smart, quite the opposite it was because they had the ability and willingness to lie to people. Sorry if this makes Jewish people mad, it's 100% true.

The Original Bankster says

They are incredibly immoral, as I mentioned before the typical jewish household is a materialistic mom and a morally weak father. theyre just highly corruptible weak people

This is an assertion.

Do you have evidence for this?

this is really what the religion is about(perhaps all religions are about, Judaism being the primary template), it's about taking what is your normal conscience intentions and replacing them with religious decrees. the religion attempts to replace what are natural inclination, love of family, country, humanity, with what are unnatural inclinations- dont eat pork and dont switch lights on a saturday and youre a good person.

Jews are the type of people whose brain works in such a way that it can fool itself into thinking it has done something correct. It's something that practically everyone has the ability to do, but Jews are particularly well suited for these kind of applications. This is why they do well in law primarily and other fields that are similar such as medicine.

It goes even back to the talmud. there are sections in there where they are arguing against God and they all get together and conclude that their logical assertions are actually more valid than supernatural divine intervention.

re. the points about Zionism, yes it's totally evil and that is the source of all the geopolitical economic problems were having. There have been many attempts by real Israeli sabras to make peace. You had better believe it was the Sharon/Netanyahu gang who had Rabin shot for attempting to make real peace.

thunderlips11 says

Do you have evidence for this?

what do you do for a living thunderlips?

The Original Bankster says

what do you do for a living thunderlips?

I work in the "Biggest Hidden Industry": Convention Organizing. I've also driven a taxi, run a drug store, made B2B sales for an IT Company, cleaned out service vehicles, performed background checks for HR, lubricated wooden moulds for concrete pillars, flipped burgers, and stocked shelves at a department store. And probably other jobs I can't remember off the top of my head.

Oh, and yes, for less than a year, worked as a Financial Advisor and hated it and my conniving psychopathic, greedy ex-Jock German-Irish Boss and the manipulative Italian fat boss who tried to strong arm me into putting clients into VULs and "Actively Managed" bottom 10% in performance of all mutual funds. I have a feeling this is the answer you are aiming for. This was one year out of the about two decades it's been since I've been a legal adult.

It might be - and I know this is way out of left field and possibly really far fetched - that the financial industry tends to attract more greedy manipulative shitheads than, say, nursing or hospitality. I totally confess in my naivete that I thought I would actually help people invest their money for retirement by putting them in Vanguard Index Funds and nagging them to make that monthly contribution, to buy term and invest the difference, rebalance between stocks and bonds as they got older, and all that stuff. Just like the commercials show "Financial Advisers" doing.

bgamall4 says

The Original Bankster says

being raised around jews you can start to believe how it is that jews are so often used for these purposes. They are incredibly immoral, as I mentioned before the typical jewish household is a materialistic mom and a morally weak father. theyre just highly corruptible weak people- and of course they are told that they come from the best stock on earth. Practically every jewish success story I know was not because they were smart, quite the opposite it was because they had the ability and willingness to lie to people. Sorry if this makes Jewish people mad, it's 100% true.

I don't think that adds to the conversation. If you want to talk about race rather than a political movement, perhaps this is the wrong place for you.

you can argue these things for years. when Jews want to be a race, usually when people criticize them, then theyre a race. When it's not convenient to be a race, in the case of conversion, or Israeli citizenship, or any other situation, magically they are a religion. your attempts to segregate 'zionists' from 'antisemites' is just a poorly shopped attempt to keep anyone from labeling you 'racist.

but your attempts to keep your persona squeaky clean of dirty non-PC viewpoints sure did work out well. It also proved your a spineless retard.