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2013 Nov 1, 3:24am   67,541 views  357 comments

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57610328/obamacare-enrollments-got-off-to-very-slow-start-documents-show/

I'm sure this has been posted alredy by now. But only six(!) signed up for Obamacare the first day??!! From what I read, over 4 million visits, but only 6 signed up?

I liken this scenario to a big fat highway, w/ 4 million cars slowing down to check out the 6 car accident on the side of the road, only to keep driving away/getting away from the gory fiasco.

And this shit show is only getting started...

- You want to put your identity, SS#, VITAL information into the hands of former-ACORN layabouts, ie, fresh-minted 'stewards' to these healthcare exchanges? I'll pass, thank you.

- Then once we get past this gaping hole of security, we get to grapple w/ the fact that there's more security problems ahead, when this site is hacked repeatedly, once your data lands 'somewhere'.

- Wait till the uneducated (or the naive liberals/independent voters; same thing) find out that Obamacare is a financial house of cards, that will collapse under its own weight. Tons of people 'signing up' for healthcare, that will be free, but a trickle of tax-paying people signing up, willing to get reamed in the digital age by the gov't....

- Obamacare is wealth re-distribution, pure and simple. Obama doesn't give a fuck about you, the health care he took away from you, or the higher bills you, the tax-payer, will have to pay. He lied to you 3 years ago, KNOWING you'd lose your health care. That's all you need to know.

#politics

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333   AverageBear   2013 Nov 21, 1:33am  

A CBS News poll released Wednesday shows that President Obama and his signature piece of legislation have hit record lows. Only 37% of those polled approve of the job the president is doing, with 57% disapproving. ObamaCare is even more unpopular. A full 61% disapprove of the health care law. Only 31% approve.

I'm waiting for the next 'crisis' to take the Obamacare fiasco out of the limelight....

334   edvard2   2013 Nov 21, 1:37am  

AverageBear says

Only 37% of those polled approve of the job the president is doing, with 57% disapproving. ObamaCare is even more unpopular. A full 61% disapprove of the health care law. Only 31% approve.

At the same time the overall approval rating for the GOP is less than 20% at the moment. So its not like those on the right can jump for joy by any means because " their side" is fairing even worse.

AverageBear says

I'm waiting for the next 'crisis' to take the Obamacare fiasco out of the limelight....

It'll probably default back to the Republicans. Actually, their situation is more long-term anyway, as they continue to lack the ability to reach out to minorities and Hispanics whom they will desperately need in order to have a chance of winning in 2016.

Either way, the ACA will in time work out its kinks and the GOP will need to find another thing to desperately cling to as a last-ditch effort to prevent their party's slow slide into obscurity.

335   edvard2   2013 Nov 21, 2:50am  

Call it Crazy says

Eddie, Eddie, Eddie.... Hopefully some day you'll wake up and stop blaming the GOP and accept your boy Obama for the failure that he is.

You're simply stating what you so desperately want to believe: That Obama is a failure while ironically totally forgetting the entire previous administration which unquestionably was a failure for the majority of its existence.

That and the lack of comprehension of what the long term situation is with the GOP, which is that as we speak is undergoing the biggest identity crisis its had in decades. The demographic mathematics are at increasingly bigger odds against the future of the GOP's success, at least if they keep on trying to force ideology that is contrary to modern America.

Simply put, the GOP doesn't deserve my blame. They can blame themselves. Sure- I am totally aware that the GOP is at this juncture breathing a sigh of relief that they finally have something to pin on Obama. But this is only temporary and the long term problems I mentioned above aren't going away.

PS: Posting dumb pictures doesn't make your incorrect statements anymore correct.

336   bob2356   2013 Nov 21, 3:00am  

edvard2 says

You're simply stating what you so desperately want to believe: That Obama is a failure while ironically totally forgetting the entire previous administration which unquestionably was a failure for the majority of its existence.

Failure? What failure. Both parties are extremely successful at doing what their corporate masters demand.

337   edvard2   2013 Nov 21, 3:19am  

bob2356 says

Failure? What failure. Both parties are extremely successful at doing what their corporate masters demand.

Not entirely un-true as both parties are guilty of getting into bed with big business. But in the case of the GOP, its a part of their brand. Why else would a party decide to proclaim that most things that are beneficial ( like pollution, emission controls, less reliance on coal, social services, financial regulation, healthcare, pensions, unions, and a slew of others) are somehow bad? Its because each and every single one of those are tied to the wishes of the industries whom use the GOP as their mouthpiece and in turn the GOP simply re-labels the cause simply as being "Liberals". Its simple really...

338   edvard2   2013 Nov 21, 3:47am  

Call it Crazy says

Oh Eddie..

Unsurprising. This seems to be a common response mechanism from some on this site: When and if you can't win an argument because your side of the argument lacks any real material then its always handy to resort to 3rd-grader type tactics- like posting silly pictures. That doesn't really work, sorry. Let me know when you would like to have a real debate.

339   edvard2   2013 Nov 21, 4:12am  

Call it Crazy says

already told you, we can't have a real debate until you take these off....

Unfortunately my browser is temporarily unable to show images so I assume what you meant is that we cant discuss intelligent political debates until you can come up with something that is based in reality.

340   anonymous   2013 Nov 21, 4:52am  

Its the republicans fault that the democrats suck so much. Lol

Bizzaro world

341   edvard2   2013 Nov 21, 5:05am  

errc says

Its the republicans fault that the democrats suck so much. Lol

Bizzaro world

Well, seeing as how today happens to be opposite day, I partially concur except that its nobody's fault that the GOP sucks except for their own.

342   edvard2   2013 Nov 21, 5:06am  

sbh says

My, my. I was off by two and a half hours:

All I can say is: Well it was about time. Good. Now its time to get things done without the gop-fillibusters getting in the way and not doing their jobs.

343   Homeboy   2013 Nov 21, 5:10am  

edvard2 says

PS: Posting dumb pictures doesn't make your incorrect statements anymore correct.

Hear hear!

344   Homeboy   2013 Nov 21, 5:15am  

Atkins-bot says

You mean following the food pyramid, with 12 servings of breads and grains and cereals per day?

The old food pyramid hasn't been in use since 2005. Sad when you have to lie because you have no point.

345   anonymous   2013 Nov 21, 5:22am  

Homeboy says

Atkins-bot says

You mean following the food pyramid, with 12 servings of breads and grains and cereals per day?

The old food pyramid hasn't been in use since 2005. Sad when you have to lie because you have no point.

Right. They decided to ditch the food pyramid, for choosemyplate

Why?

What changed?

346   edvard2   2013 Nov 21, 5:25am  

Call it Crazy says

Gee, that must be the fault of the GOP too, right??

you are catching on.

347   edvard2   2013 Nov 21, 5:48am  

Call it Crazy says

At least your consistent on blaming the GOP for everything...

We're not the ones constantly posting crap on this site that has no purpose other than to take little pokes at "liberals" in some desperate attempt to re-assure ourselves that our ideology isn't excessively outdated. For people like me this is raw entertainment and perhaps an insight as to where some of these bizarre ideas come from.

348   rooemoore   2013 Nov 21, 8:38am  

Call it Crazy says

Also, as a reminder, and as I've said it multiple times, the Repubs suck too!!! Just not as much as the current resident in the White House...

You're right that both sides suck. But the Republicans, in their Christian righteousness are much harder for me to stomach.

349   Homeboy   2013 Nov 21, 2:57pm  

errc says

Right. They decided to ditch the food pyramid, for choosemyplate

Why?

First, why did you lie and say they were still using the food pyramid?

350   Homeboy   2013 Nov 21, 3:13pm  

AverageBear says

A full 61% disapprove of the health care law. Only 31% approve.

But when asked WHY they disapprove, some say the law goes too far, while others say it doesn't go far enough. When you actually calculate the number of people who EITHER approve of Obamacare OR think it should go further than it does, you get a majority.

What's more, when you ask people if they are in favor of the individual components of ACA, i.e. "Do you think people with pre-existing conditions should be able to get insurance?" or "Do you think insurance should be available in a website format that allows you to shop and compare all policies?", more people than not say yes.

351   AverageBear   2013 Nov 21, 9:02pm  

California Insurance Board tells Obama to "F" himself...

Covered California boots plans that miss Obamacare standards

....."The board of California's health insurance exchange, Covered California, on Thursday decided not to allow insurance plans that do not meet Obamacare standards to continue operating in that state"

...."The move effectively rejects the fix President Barack Obama proposed to salve the deeply troubled rollout of the Affordable Care Act."

Think Dems will lose any Congressional seats in California in Nov '14?

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101218932

352   zzyzzx   2013 Nov 21, 11:17pm  

Homeboy says

First, why did you lie and say they were still using the food pyramid?

You know that the only food pyramid that counts here is this one:

353   edvard2   2013 Nov 22, 12:27am  

Call it Crazy says

For one thing, I just REPOST article that are out in the main news sites, majority from popular, main stream sites, not off the wall unknown sites, so I don't think they are "crap". I don't make them up..... If you have issues with the articles I post, I always provide a link. Feel free to contact the original author of the article to voice your disapproval!!

Unfortunately, you liberals can't handle the truth about the current administration, so you respond with YOUR childish "blame the GOP" responses... Too bad if the "Truth Hurts"...

Maybe YOU need to grow up and accept reality that your liberal "blue" team ain't as great as you think....

Its more like posting articles and then adding cute statements to it to construe them to an ever-reliable "Take that, liberals!" attitude. Utterly predictable. Don't worry about handling the truth. We've known it for quiet some time now, which is that the GOP is a dinosaur and losing its ability to garner votes as the clock ticks on by. We don't have to do anything except sit back with some popcorn and watch the GOP in its current form fade into oblivion. Within 10 years the GOP of today won't be recognizable to those in the future. They will have to change. Plain and simple. The rest of us will just wait.

354   edvard2   2013 Nov 22, 12:29am  

AverageBear says

Think Dems will lose any Congressional seats in California in Nov '14?

Probably not. The one thing that can almost always be counted on in Cali is that it might as well be Texas' twin sister given its outright reliable politics. Texas can almost always be assured to be solidly Republican no matter what the same that Cali can equally be counted on to be solidly Democratic.

355   Homeboy   2013 Nov 22, 2:16pm  

AverageBear says

...."The move effectively rejects the fix President Barack Obama proposed to salve the deeply troubled rollout of the Affordable Care Act."

It's not a fix. It's just caving in to pressure from the right, and being stabbed in the back by Bill Clinton. California is right, and Obama should have stuck to his guns. This is the WRONG time to knuckle under.

356   Homeboy   2013 Nov 22, 2:18pm  

zzyzzx says

You know that the only food pyramid that counts here is this one:

Wow. Did you make that, or did that come from AF? Somebody spent a lot of time on that.

357   Homeboy   2013 Nov 23, 6:02am  

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Comptroller says

It was a reprint of a Boy Scout training poster published in Boys Life magazine this summer.

True genius.

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