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Global Yields Are Falling!


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2016 Jun 9, 10:21am   52,245 views  250 comments

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203   anotheraccount   2016 Jul 2, 9:45am  

Bellingham Bill says

Wow, that above chart is basically ranking countries by my desire to live there .

Top 3 countries on that list hate immigrants. You will always be a second class citizen there.

204   Strategist   2016 Jul 2, 10:34am  

tr6 says

Strategist says

Obama prevented us from going into a depression. I give him credit for that, but he has clearly failed to engineer a complete recovery. Seven years and no recovery is ridiculous. He needs to focus on housing.

Obama produced the best recovery possible for asset holders. What do you mean by focusing on housing? Building more? Because interest rates are pretty low. If they built a lot of houses, supply would increase and prices would go down.

We cannot have an economic recovery without a housing recovery. As simple as that.

205   Bellingham Bill   2016 Jul 2, 9:21pm  

I was OK being 2nd-class in Japan for most of the 90s, after all it is their country and we gaikokujin are guests more or less.

Most Japanese IME were happy to make this respect a two-way street, I bring my gaijin A-game and they cut me the necessary slack.

As for Germany, my earliest known ancestor was a Hessian who allegedly absconded from British service during the Revolutionary War so I certainly look more German than Japanese.

The Swiss have a NIIP at 120% of GDP according to Wikipedia, and I respect that greatly, even this wealth position wasn't achieved as honestly as the Swedes or Norwegians (breaking even and at 170%, respectively).

We're at negative 40%, btw.

My plan now is to spend some vacation time touring the socialists paradises this decade, and either retire there or Japan next decade.

Every time I go to a Target or Costco I just want to get the hell out of California. Then again Bellingham might work I guess, and no income tax is a good thing for retirees : )

206   _   2016 Jul 3, 4:18pm  

I saw.. lets give a Big cheer.... to any America who leaves this country!

More Job openings

Lock them all out .... never let them back in ..... unless they write a letter of apologize

207   _   2016 Jul 3, 4:19pm  

208   Ironworker   2016 Jul 3, 7:43pm  

Logan Mohtashami says

I saw.. lets give a Big cheer.... to any America who leaves this country!

More Job openings

Lock them all out .... never let them back in ..... unless they write a letter of apologize

Ha ha ha Logan. You wish you had that power! But you are missing the point. What makes America great is the emigration. You lock the door and this country is going down. Nice note from all star economist!

209   _   2016 Jul 4, 6:37am  

Ironworker says

You lock the door and this country is going down.

Isn't my humor transparent enough ;-)

What is remarkable about America today is that ... coming off the Great Recession and the first decline in prime age labor force growth in decades

America... itself had the most stable economy in the world. People forget all the drama the world economies have had since 2011.

France declared a economic state of emergency
China has had 2 major domestic economic issues since 2011
Brazil .. no comment
Germany dealing with it's old demographic profile and all the Euro members with the 2012 Euro Bond market Crisis ( People simply forgot this drama)
Japan .... a race to debase the Yen to push stocks and in and out negative GDP for many years now
UK... was doing fine up until the Bretexit ... which is a shame I had a a lot U.S. U.K charts to counter Japan and Germany but U.K is slipping and they have a good young demographic profile too

Then all the smaller economies Russia, Argentina, Puerto Rico, Ukraine ... etc etc

Even with a legit oil and commodity crash.. the trend of unemployment claims still stayed steady in the U.S and not even the fall of Industrial production could break us.

Very Impressive!

210   Strategist   2016 Jul 4, 6:53am  

Logan Mohtashami says

I saw.. lets give a Big cheer.... to any America who leaves this country!

More Job openings

Lock them all out .... never let them back in ..... unless they write a letter of apologize

For every American that leaves there are a thousand willing to take his place.
Adios baby
Sayonara
Auf Wiedersehn
and good riddance

211   Ironworker   2016 Jul 4, 7:10am  

The way it really works the best is: Make it in America and get the fu.k out of there.

A little exaggerated example would be every NHL player who finishes his career playing in US moves back to his country - either Sweden, Finland, Czech Republic, slovakia, even Russia. And that's almost without exception.

So why are they moving back? This country is fantastic for achieving your financial goals. But there are better ones to retire in late 30ties

212   Strategist   2016 Jul 4, 7:14am  

Ironworker says

The way it really works the best is: Make it in America and get the fu.k out of there.

A little exaggerated example would be every NHL player who finishes his career playing in US moves back to his country - either Sweden, Finland, Czech Republic, slovakia, even Russia. And that's almost without exception.

So why are they moving back? This country is fantastic for achieving your financial goals. But there are better ones to retire in late 30ties

They come here to make it rich. They go back because they can live like kings. The average person is more likely to stay.

213   Ironworker   2016 Jul 4, 7:17am  

Exactly! They did their share. Paid taxes. Made other people rich too. Supported the US economy and left. There is no reason to be nationalistic.

214   Ironworker   2016 Jul 4, 7:21am  

The average person/family can save $1million if he's disciplined enough and works hard and invests in US in 15 years. Than moving somewhere else wold make them increase the quality of life substantially. So, why not?

215   Strategist   2016 Jul 4, 6:01pm  

Ironworker says

The average person/family can save $1million if he's disciplined enough and works hard and invests in US in 15 years. Than moving somewhere else wold make them increase the quality of life substantially. So, why not?

It's entirely possible if you are frugal.

216   _   2016 Jul 5, 7:13am  

One thing good about the collapse in yields

The crazy talk that rising federal debt will lead to higher interest rates...

I dare ya.. I double dare ya to make that claim anymore

217   _   2016 Jul 5, 7:17am  

218   anonymous   2016 Jul 5, 7:23am  

Thanks, but i don't need the congratulations. Some of us stuck to our guns through all the mayhem, knowing that this was where we were headed. What i would like, is a no cost re-fi into a 15 year @ 2.0%

;o

219   _   2016 Jul 5, 7:31am  

errc says

re-fi into a 15 year @ 2.0%

Now it's 2% on 15 year.. you're getting greedy

;-)

People are asking about Italian banks now and I tell them this stat

17% of Italy's bank loans are going bad. For US banks in 2008-09 financial crisis, it was 5%

220   anonymous   2016 Jul 29, 8:05am  

That was a weak bounce, alteady back below 1.5%, and looks poised to roll over and die.

How do you play this?

221   missing   2016 Jul 29, 1:24pm  

tr6 says

You will always be a second class citizen there.

But you'll be big in Japan.

222   _   2016 Jul 29, 1:27pm  

223   _   2016 Jul 29, 1:27pm  

224   Heraclitusstudent   2016 Jul 29, 2:09pm  

Logan Mohtashami says

I dare ya.. I double dare ya to make that claim anymore

You show a 30 yrs trend as if history always moved in the same direction.
It doesn't.
Boomers retire and die.
China gets richer.
Politics change.
Printed money accumulates.

225   _   2016 Jul 29, 2:25pm  

Heraclitusstudent says

You show a 30 yrs trend as if history always moved in the same direction

226   Heraclitusstudent   2016 Jul 29, 2:29pm  

Logan Mohtashami says

So are you claiming that we will stagnate for the next 30 yrs? Or that the future is bright?

227   _   2016 Jul 29, 2:32pm  

Heraclitusstudent says

Or that the future is bright?

So freaking bullish on America compared to the economic non sense that people are talking about.

As a demographic guy I know the limits of what a mature country can do with it's prime age labor force growth model.

However, the bears since social media was invented went hay wire crazy and a lot things that have been said about America are simply just wrong

228   indigenous   2016 Jul 29, 2:35pm  

To OP, I read that duration on bonds is good, which indicates continuing lower rates. But that does not portend good returns on investments.

229   mell   2016 Jul 29, 2:41pm  

Well it was easy to predict that the Fed will stay with ZIRP, so I am mildly bullish as well. Still waiting for a re-entry for an ultra-short REIT ETF like SRS, but they get more and more decimated by the low rates by the day. Patience is key.

230   mell   2016 Jul 29, 2:48pm  

Ironman says

Friday's gross domestic product reading fell below even the dimming hopes on Wall Street. The 1.2 percent growth rate in the second quarter combined with a downward revision to 0.8 percent the first three months of the year to produce an average growth rate of just 1 percent.


In total, it was far below the Wall Street forecast of 2.6 percent second-quarter growth.

The train is clearly slowing down already, but the market(s) will usually overshoot. Gold has $1400 in sight.

231   Strategist   2016 Jul 29, 2:52pm  

mell says

In total, it was far below the Wall Street forecast of 2.6 percent second-quarter growth.

The train is clearly slowing down already, but the market(s) will usually overshoot. Gold has $1400 in sight.

The best way to get the economy moving is to ignite housing by making mortgages easier to get.

232   Heraclitusstudent   2016 Jul 29, 2:52pm  

Logan Mohtashami says

So freaking bullish on America compared to the economic non sense that people are talking about.

If things are great, why aren't yield higher?
Growth = yield, right?

233   Strategist   2016 Jul 29, 2:54pm  

Heraclitusstudent says

Logan Mohtashami says

So freaking bullish on America compared to the economic non sense that people are talking about.

If things are great, why aren't yield higher?

Growth = yield, right?

Logan is bullish for the future. The future is bright.

234   mell   2016 Jul 29, 2:57pm  

Strategist says

The best way to get the economy moving is to ignite housing by making mortgages easier to get.

The problem is that when those people lose their jobs they cannot pay their mortgage. This ignition is mainly benefiting people who purchase real estate and rent it out or flip it. I think housing is inevitably due for a stagnation, many people here in the bay area can hardly afford their dwellings, no matter what job they have. If there is a recession and layoffs I expect a sharp drop, otherwise just stagnation. Current prices are not sustainable.

235   Heraclitusstudent   2016 Jul 29, 2:57pm  

Strategist says

Logan is bullish for the future. The future is bright.

He just posted 30yrs yields at 2%.
Doesn't sound like growth to me.

236   Strategist   2016 Jul 29, 2:59pm  

Heraclitusstudent says

Strategist says

Logan is bullish for the future. The future is bright.

He just posted 30yrs yields at 2%.

Doesn't sound like growth to me.

Low rates have traditionally spurred the economy. Lets hope it happens quickly.

237   Heraclitusstudent   2016 Jul 29, 3:13pm  

Strategist says

Low rates have traditionally spurred the economy. Lets hope it happens quickly.

Because of debt. Now that everyone is saturated with debt, no one wants more. Yields don't matter.
Even the government doesn't want more debt.
That's why yields are falling.
All this means no growth.

238   Strategist   2016 Jul 29, 3:15pm  

Heraclitusstudent says

Strategist says

Low rates have traditionally spurred the economy. Lets hope it happens quickly.

Because of debt. Now that everyone is saturated with debt, no one wants more. Yield don't matter.

Even the government doesn't want more debt.

That's why yields are falling.

All this means no growth.

OK. If you were President, how would you get the economy going?

239   missing   2016 Jul 29, 4:11pm  

Logan is like the proverbial guy with a hammer.

240   indigenous   2016 Jul 29, 4:15pm  

Strategist says

OK. If you were President, how would you get the economy going?

The best way is shrink government fucking period. Think Calvin Coolidge.

241   neplusultra57   2016 Jul 29, 4:17pm  

indigenous says

Strategist says

OK. If you were President, how would you get the economy going?

The best way is shrink government fucking period. Think Calvin Coolidge.

You like what's on in Kansas?

242   Heraclitusstudent   2016 Jul 29, 4:23pm  

Strategist says

OK. If you were President, how would you get the economy going?

1) I would work with the fed to send helicopter money to taxpayers.
No tax rebate or tax cut. No government debt. No private debt. No mortgage. Just the same $300 checks to everyone every month.
If and when this causes inflation, the feds would first raise rates to 5%, only then stop sending checks.

2) I would work to remove local barriers to building (zoning, building code, etc...), and make sure home building is not impeded in anyway. The only limits would be set by centralized development councils responsible for city growth and imposing building where it is needed. This would result in decreased housing prices that would free a colossal amount of spending power.

3) I would work to enforce strictly immigration laws and aggressively enforce trade standards with other nations. No exception no special pass. Lower external competition.

4) I would seek to reinforce competition on a number of areas within the US. At least 3 companies should compete for every market. No merger/buyout would be allowed in an industry outside this situation. Hospitals would be forced to publish prices on all standard procedures, and then forced to respect these prices (including all associated care) for every customers. I would also force them to publish a number of measures on quality of care such as infection rate. Universities would be forced to publish prices for all diplomas (including all associated costs) and forced to provide the same prices to everyone. Again I would force them to publish statistics by diploma such as how many graduate find jobs etc...

5) I would impose that any multinational be taxed in the US for their profits in proportion of their sales in the US. I would arrange with other G8 nations to agree on the same scheme. No exception.

6) I would enforce no attempt is made to "save" money by delaying infrastructure maintenance. I would invest on a long term infrastructure program guarantying roads, bridges, electric grid, gas, water management etc... are top notch in the US.

7) gross incomes above $1,000,000 would be taxed 50% regardless of origin.

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