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JH:

"Somebody please enlighten me about AAPL"

Apple is one of the few products that have both beauty and brains. There is no substitute. As of January 2, 2014 we became a 100% Apple family. 4 computers, 4 iPhones, 1 iPad, and an Apple router. Never had a problem. Never Ever.

Bought Apple laptops for more than 15 years now. Had some problems with them but generally been very happy. Also have bought the phone and ipad over the years. Again generally happy with both. However, I'm in the market for a new unlocked phone and was waiting on the new 5.5" phone. I'm not bothered by the (likelihood of) low Ram, but that thing as a whole is HUGE and not exactly cutting edge. They seem to be over focused on the software side of things and losing ground on the hardware. The unlocked version also looks like it's going to be ridiculously expensive in comparison to what is now out there. Think I might take a serious look at the G3 and Z3 despite the money I've spent on the apps. The G3 looks a lot of phone for less than $600.

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New Renter 2014 Sep 9, 10:03am

You see that sheep way in the front? That's me! I can hardly wait for my iwatch.

It's sooooo shiny! And it has an apple on the back!

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MAGA 2014 Sep 9, 10:08am

I'll stick with my HTC Rezound. I've had it for three years now and it still works great on the Verizon 4G network.

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Heraclitusstudent 2014 Sep 9, 11:07am

That's exactly right.

If you have a much better solution than what Apple offers, why do you even care enough to come here and complain about them?

I see no one posting threads about Amazon's phone or Microsoft's phones. And it's not because they are brilliant pieces of technology.

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JH 2014 Sep 9, 11:34am

You claim to be asking for explanation, but your tone says you just want to gripe. Piss off there's no explaining it to you.

You claim apple people are less fanatical but just proved you can be as big an ass as me so piss off yourself.

Thanks for the intelligent contributions to the conversation.

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Vicente 2014 Sep 9, 12:31pm

You claim apple people are less fanatical but just proved you can be as big an ass as me so piss off yourself.

I'm no fanatic. I own their products. I own some stock. Once they suck, I will be the first to desert them. I'm no longer interested however in a "WHOSE WANG IS BIGGER" contest with the guy next to me. If the tech I have in my pocket is working reliably and elegantly that's all I require of it.

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JH 2014 Sep 9, 12:37pm

'm no fanatic

You posted the pic

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ChapulinColorado 2014 Sep 9, 2:19pm

Call it Crazy says

Strategist says

In the long run Apple has what you would want in a wife....Beauty, Brains, Loyalty, Obedient. :)

That's what I have in my dog.... Good luck finding that in a wife!

So your'e saying....dogs are better than bitches.

You are so wrong, it may be what you want from a woman, but you don't have to make any woman your wife.

Smart phones should be cheap, easy to use, gorgeous, un-jealous, disposable, interchangeable (operating systems). I bet Apple will continue to loose marketshare worldwide. The cheaper brands will be taking up the lions share in the next decade.

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Strategist 2014 Sep 9, 3:01pm

ChapulinColorado says

So your'e saying....dogs are better than bitches.

You are so wrong, it may be what you want from a woman, but you don't have to make any woman your wife.

Just giving the girls a hard time.

ChapulinColorado says

Smart phones should be cheap, easy to use, gorgeous, un-jealous, disposable, interchangeable (operating systems). I bet Apple will continue to loose marketshare worldwide. The cheaper brands will be taking up the lions share in the next decade.

Apple does not have the largest market share overall. They have the largest market share among the high end users. The difference in price is not so much, the difference in technology is tremendous.

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JH 2014 Sep 9, 3:09pm

They have the largest market share among the high end users.

Teenage girls and GenX moms? CC was talking about phones, you know.

The difference in price is not so much, the difference in technology is tremendous.

Price difference is negligible at best. But the difference in technology is staggering as shown in the OP.

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ChapulinColorado 2014 Sep 9, 3:33pm

Android has so much more to choose from. It's almost like the operating system is continuously morphing and mutating faster than iOS and continues to spread "virally". It will be hard for APPL to keep up.

Android has so many phone manufacturers with very impressive hardward that has already surpassed APPL on a global scale. Whereas I love APPL with my iPad, iPad mini, 2 iPhone 3s, (switched to Galaxy), at the end of the day, the victory will go to the most universal OS with the most variety across all price spectrums, and with China coming in strong in sales in cheap smart phones, I would not bank on iOS to continue to set the standard nor increase market share in the near future.

The vast number of apps for Android coming from the entire globe continue to dwarf the iStore/iTunes.

Plus the overpriced APPL Watch will be too expensive for most to want to afford. Watch will just be a fad. Always buy a waterproof watch (APPL?) no matter who the manufacturer is, I can't see people staying hooked on this APPL relic for more than a couple of years, unless it can make you a venti caramel iced frappacino, uncork and pour some pinot noir, give you a foot and back massage while in the hot tub, perform a hand-job (getting a bj would be spot-on) or hold IT while you are taking a leak, the Watch will not be a hit.

51 Waitingtobuy 2014 Sep 9, 4:10pm

I went to the Apple store today to change my iPhone 5 battery that was run down. That place creeps me out, their customer service sucks, and every customer in there seems so fake, like they are trying to be cool with the latest gadget. To some people, the Apple Store is their place of worship. For me, I hate it with a passion.

I like their products (have an iPad and iPhone), but I will buy a PC over an Apple laptop in a heartbeat. Price to me for desktops and laptops means everything, comparing apples to apples.

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Y 2014 Sep 9, 11:51pm

quite simply, android, windows, etc operating systems require more knowledge to operate efficiently and safely, the tradeoff being more software flexibility and user customization.

apple OS is designed for ease of use and fashion statements, geared more towards the egotistically inclined. The tradeoff being you are captured in a closed system and must obtain apples approval for anything and everything.

Somebody please enlighten me about AAPL

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Y 2014 Sep 9, 11:54pm

thats because microsoft owners are educated enough to self-correct any problems, unlike apple fanbotz who flock to the genius bar every time their nano shrieks a quarter note off key...

Peter P says

I prefer the Microsoft Store experience though. There are usually twenty employees entertaining me as the sole customer. LOL.

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Y 2014 Sep 9, 11:56pm

+1
knowing which brand to buy is key.
or better yet, build your own.

Strategist says

The Dell and Hp I used to buy, would sputter and freeze after 1 or 2 years, and I would have to get a new one.

That is because you bought HP and probably cheap Dell. If you spend the same on a PC as you do on an Apple, you get the same computer (if not better).

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Y 2014 Sep 9, 11:58pm

for the best of both worlds, get an apple airbook for the hardware and install windows 7 64 bit for the software.

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Y 2014 Sep 10, 12:03am

I'd say you fucked up. the red pill isn't a suppository.

57 gsr 2014 Sep 10, 2:13am

Unless Apple invents another brand new gadget, it will slowly sink into oblivion. Just another version of slow iPhone or iPad won't cut it.

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Strategist 2014 Sep 10, 2:19am

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152553

Price difference is negligible at best. But the difference in technology is staggering as shown in the OP.

The very first data piece you provided about screen size is wrong. iphone 6 has a 5.5 inch screen as an option.
When I used to buy PC's I would always look at RAM, Hard drive, processor speed etc. etc. I have no idea on anything with the MacBook I am typing on, and don't even care. All I know is it turns on right away, and works perfectly every time.
If anyone tries to take it away from me, I will kill them. :)

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Vicente 2014 Sep 10, 2:32am

gsr says

Unless Apple invents another brand new gadget, it will slowly sink into oblivion. Just another version of slow iPhone or iPad won't cut it.

If you don't use the products, why do you care? I don't get your point.

You remind me of teenagers talking smack about which car is best.

60 myob 2014 Sep 10, 3:13am

The specs don't matter. Apple is selling a vanity product, and they're selling their software ecosystem. I've got both iOS and Android phones, and I use the iOS phone 99% of the time because of the user interface.

This is like asking why someone would buy designer jeans when cheaper, better jeans are available.

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zzyzzx 2014 Sep 10, 3:26am

Obligatory:

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Strategist 2014 Sep 10, 3:28am

myob says

This is like asking why someone would buy designer jeans when cheaper, better jeans are available.

Yup. Apple is like a sleek new fully loaded Lamborghini. All the other guys are rusty old Pintos.

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Tenpoundbass 2014 Sep 10, 3:43am

Call it Crazy says

Oh wait, that's not a picture of an Android store....

I was at the mall a few weeks ago, and was just blown away at all of the Johnny Come Lately stores in the mall.
The Apple store, the Microsoft store, and the Sony Store.

They all had the same format. I wandered around the mall trying to find a Samsung store, but there just wasn't any.

Samsung stands on their own in the retail space. They don't need a special store to sell their quality products.

The thing that struck me as very odd about those tech retail stores.
Was all of these tables with their product laid out on them, no detailed specs and no price listed. As if you have to stand there and wait untold minutes or hours for one of the reps to come over and tell you what every limited misinformation that they may have.

I just laughed and walked out, did the same at all three stores.
the Apple store, the Microsoft store, and the Sony Store.

I can at least respect Apple they get a free pass on this clear Douchebaggery violation, because they invented this kind of store.
Well actually they copied the Gateway stores, but they aren't around anymore.

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Vicente 2014 Sep 10, 4:07am

CaptainShuddup says

I can at least respect Apple they get a free pass on this clear Douchebaggery violation, because they invented this kind of store.

I guess you were born yesterday and never went into a Gap, a Banana Republic, Armani Exchange, or Ann Taylor.

65 mell 2014 Sep 10, 4:20am

CaptainShuddup says

Samsung stands on their own in the retail space. They don't need a special store to sell their quality products.

Agreed. They will run over everybody like a juggernaut. They just keep manufacturing..

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just_passing_through 2014 Sep 10, 5:04am

Just bought this:

Upgraded the RAM and SSD. This puppy has a few SSD slots each accepting up to 1T. Blows the doors off any apple offering. It is heavy though but that's because it's such a beast.

My HTC EVO is about 4 years old and the battery only gives me about 30mins of talk time at this point. Rather than change it I'm going to buy the Galaxy Note 4 next month. It'll be my first Samsung product. I do like android.

Last time I used an apple product was 1999 in a molecular genetics lab. Their processors were shit though. If you wanted to do any accurate, precise math you used an intel chip. There are no apple machines in labs these days that I'm aware of even though they're using PC architecture now too. Some fellow software developers use them. Mostly I see marketing peeps using them.

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JH 2014 Sep 10, 5:04am

The very first data piece you provided about screen size is wrong. iphone 6 has a 5.5 inch screen as an option.

No the screen size was not "wrong". I found a table that compared all the phones and gave it to you. I know that apple also has a 5.5" screen option. As far as I can find, the specs are all the same except screen size.