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RayAmerica says

Attention Marcus …. read it very slow and try to think what is being said:

Clarence 13X says

If the white applicants scored higher on a test for a job in a black neighborhood then why should they not get the job?….

I understand your point. As it stands now they get what 3500 applicants 1/5th of whom are minorities. The article I posted above had 1000 people taking that test at once, for a small number of openings. What you people don't realize is that we don't know whether 68 is a reasonable cut off (that is we don't know how hard the test is).

You could write a test that every literate person will get a 100% on, or you can write a test where even geniuses will get a zero. We just don't know where 68% actually is. But we do know the test is used to screen the 1000s of people who want to be Dayton cops.

I get your point about the test. And I will say this again slowly for you Ray, Shrek and anyone else who can't fathom my point. I understand that they use this test now as a bar. I am only saying that if they wanted to, over the years, (maybe even long ago) they could have figured out some way to hire more black cops.

If they had done so, they would have been doing a huge service to their community on many levels. And if they had done so, I guarantee, that here in modern times (2011) there would be many more black applicants, and many more scoring over whatever their cut off is.

Congratulations. Well done Dayton !!

RayAmerica says

Apparently Marcus must have flagged several of my posts and Patrick removed them, even though there was absolutely nothing offensive in any of them. Not only does Marcus indicate racism against white people, he also is in favor of silencing them as well. Way to go Marcus. Apparently the President of the Dayton NAACP should be silenced by you as well, because I am in complete agreement with his position.

I work during the day when you posted whatever.

I've said a lot here, but this summarizes my point of view.

marcus says

Out of 3500 that applied to take the test, only 21% were minorities. I don’t know what other cities have done in the past to deal with this situation. I don’t like them dumbing down the test, but they have a problem if their police dept is 10% back and fire dept is 3% black. It goes beyond left vs right or political correctness. Police are a very unique city employee because of the way that they interface with the community.

Other cities have dealt with this in more intelligent ways.

simchaland says

More than one person has to flag (according to the flag text that comes up) and then it gets placed into moderation for Patrick to review.

Yup, and I deleted some direct insults.

Hard to keep up though. I think people actually enjoy insulting and being insulted in some weird way.

Hard to keep up though. I think people actually enjoy insulting and being insulted in some weird way.

I think some people just love to argue over internet, it is strange, but it's some sort of new generations phenomena.

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/how-win-any.php

ChrisLA says

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/how-win-any.php

LOL. That article is hilarious.

shrekgrinch says

Clarence 13X says

Maybe the parenting standards and socioeconomic decisions in the Black community need to be raised?

Praise Bill Cosby!

LMAO...I love Bill Cosby. After 40 years of affirmative action and welfare states the community needs to move past the civil protest era of WEB Dubois and start following Booker T Washington to the schoolyard.

marcus says

I get your point about the test. And I will say this again slowly for you Ray, Shrek and anyone else who can’t fathom my point. I understand that they use this test now as a bar. I am only saying that if they wanted to, over the years, (maybe even long ago) they could have figured out some way to hire more black cops.

Point well taken. I do find it kinda odd that a community of 40% black has such a low workforce. That being said, I lot of communities drawn to stereotypical cultural employment options. Young black men love being security guards at malls, not because they want to further themselves but because they are lazy and undriven....an after effect of Jim Crow. Lets say the community was 40% Asian and had low police workforce applicants. Stereotypically, we would say that most Asian men seek higher education and either work in a professional setting or start a business. Lets take women also, who stereotypically perform work as teachers, assistants, nurses, HR and Accounting business professionals.

It would take active recruiting measures to enroll more ***** into the police force. The HR group would have to setup diversity clauses and have their talent recruitment groups action the initiatives. It is very difficult to find a good candidate, let alone a good ***** candidate.

Your thoughts?

ChrisLA says

Hard to keep up though. I think people actually enjoy insulting and being insulted in some weird way.

I think some people just love to argue over internet, it is strange, but it’s some sort of new generations phenomena.
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/how-win-any.php

DUDE!!!!! This is the same thing folks on these boards engage in all the time!~

Clarence 13X says

ChrisLA says

Hard to keep up though. I think people actually enjoy insulting and being insulted in some weird way.

I think some people just love to argue over internet, it is strange, but it’s some sort of new generations phenomena.

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/how-win-any.php

DUDE!!!!! This is the same thing folks on these boards engage in all the time!~

Yeah, lol! It's like they were reading certain posts from certain characters around here. Amazing! ;-)

Clarence 13X says

After 40 years of affirmative action and welfare states the community needs to move past the civil protest era of WEB Dubois and start following Booker T Washington to the schoolyard.

What an incredible statement. This needs to be shouted from the mountain tops.