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Wow - this country allows just about anyone to vote even though (per your post) they obviously don't deserve to. Just think - poor people vote for stuff that helps them, captains of industry vote for what helps them, and the politicians are stuck in the middle just trying to keep teir jobs and line their pockets.... everyone is out for themselves.

You've opened my eyes, we're going to hell in a handbasket and it's all because of the wrong people voting.

Such as system existed in Northern Ireland, the point of which was legal discrimination against Catholics, who were unemployed at higher rates than Protestants. Didn't work out so well there. http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/othelem/landon.htm

I'm kind of shocked that anyone would even propose such a system in the US, which was founded on the idea equal rights for everyone. Yes, even poor people.

Apparently the biggest taxpayers are the ones who decided how low taxes should be, including the unpaid for Bush tax cuts, which is ironically a reason for much higher deficits and much higher taxes for all in the future.

Back when Al Gore ran for president, he talked a lot about a "lock box" for payroll taxes which go toward social security. But Gore lost and this never happened. So this money goes into the pot of money spent now ( and is counted in budget deficit as if it were federal tax receipts ).

So what about someone who pays a significant percent of their income in to payroll taxes, but pay no federal income taxes ? By the way these citizens are the reason for fox news claimed that 50 percent don't pay taxes.

http://mediamatters.org/research/200904160032

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Oh Patrick, come on - I didn't say "poor people" I said people who don't pay taxes. And I guess Nomo is right in the fact that everyone pays taxes (though not all pay INCOME TAX). So I guess I should have named my topic "VOTING SHOULD BE RESERVED FOR INCOME TAX PAYERS". BTW, that would eliminate the ability of those evil rich business owners who pay NO INCOME TAX from voting !!! See, my system has lots of merits : )

Its kinda ironic that the 'class warfare' party shouts "soak the rich, make them pay their fair share" but goes ahead and raises the alcohol tax, tabacco tax, gas tax, DMV fees (tax), continues the inflation tax, etc, which taxes the very people it claims to protect.

And its not just the Libs (though primarily so), its the Republocrats too. And if we didn't have Obama, what - McCain would be better?

Poor people are the people who don't pay taxes.

I have never read a study on it, but my intuition is that people with life circumstances such that they aren't paying federal income taxes probably fall within the significant group of people who don't vote anyway.

Therefore I agree with Nomograph that it wouldn't make a difference.

So please let me continue my fantasy about American democracy, okay ?

Actually one group in could make a difference with is the young. That is of voting age but in post secondary education phase. And hey, you know the evil influence all of those liberal professors have on college students.