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Outrageous Flyover McMansions and Peso Palaces


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2006 May 14, 12:18am   22,732 views  188 comments

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peso palace

Per DinOR and Michael Holliday's request.

The Baja housing bubble.

Also.

Do you know someone who sold their outrageously tiny California/NYC/Boston houses for an outrageous amount of dineros, and then transfered their skanky IKEA taste to Tennessee's verdant hills?

How about those loons who thought they could get outrageous $3,000/month rent in Merced?

Have you seen any outrageous examples? Care to post the pictures?

Please share.

#housing

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180   Randy H   2006 May 16, 4:12am  

In Colorado, 28.5 percent of homeowners have 5 percent or less equity in their homes, and 47 percent have 15 percent or less equity

Not to be a total stats dork here, but these figures are meaningless without more descriptive statistics.

For example, are the distributions in the state-to-state comparisons identical? I doubt they are. Somewhere like TN is going to have a much more normal-dist than somewhere like CA, which is probably bimodal.

181   LILLL   2006 May 16, 4:22am  

Well, apparently Riverside is finally starting to crumble. The IE(Inland Empire) has been the last haven in So Cal to buy a reasonable home under 500K.
A guy I know put his house on the market at a 'sell it today price' and it is just sitting. He's had to discount it 20K and that may not even help.Yeeehaaaww!
They've been building like madmen and selling like theives.
What I've noticed here is...If you can't afford a house on the Westside...try the SF Valley...if you can't afford in the valley...try the IE...once the IE is gone....what?...trailer parks???
The greatest fools may have disappeared.
Time for 'the great reversal'

182   Randy H   2006 May 16, 4:24am  

I concur with Peter P,

I'm less bearish by the following measure: I was biased much closer to a hard-landing than a soft-landing, assuming that there was a tipping point past which all hard-landings are equally as bad.

What I am now convinced of is that the "range of soft-landing" up to that tipping point is much wider than I initially thought. This is propelled by both fundamentals and financial reasons, not the least of which being (in the BA) wage inflation, rent inflation, and job growth.

I still think starter homes are in for a "harder" correction, but even there I'm not counting on that class of homes passing the tipping point in many areas.

183   DinOR   2006 May 16, 4:29am  

WWII,

Good article and I especially like where Bruce Norris addresses the speculative tangent of buying a 450K home and renting it out $1,500 a month b/c the specuvestor believes it will sell for 550K next year. When the "demand" decreases either people stop buying OR (they will try to raise the rents!) *Raise the rents* my comment, not his. And why not? Now that I'm stuck with this "steaming pile" and unable to sell it anywhere near what I owe on it I might as well give raising the rent a shot in an effort to fill some of this black hole? There's raising rents b/c you're coming from a position of strength and then there's raising rents b/c you have no choice.

What I didn't like: Now that "MY" bubble (because I found it damn it) is in full bloom it's a heck of a lot easier to get on the band wagon and not have to endure at least a solid two years of rude stares at neighborhood cook outs. Lastly, (and I hate to beat this to death) no credible discussion of the HB can take place until we acknowledge the impact of the 500K cap gains exemption. It starts there, it ends there. Everything else is just the "frilly lace on the windows". Every school child above the age of 8 should be taught this before they can move on to the next grade. It's really just that simple. If we had 500K of tax free gains on Harley's or beenie babies (and allowed you to write off the points, interest and taxes) you're gonna get a bubble there too.

184   HARM   2006 May 16, 4:30am  

This is propelled by both fundamentals and financial reasons, not the least of which being (in the BA) wage inflation, rent inflation, and job growth.

Huh?

What wage inflation? What job growth (outside RE)? As far as rents go, in SoCal I'm only seeing rents trending up on par with inflation (real inflation - approx. 5-6%/yr, not hedonically adjusted CPI).

185   HARM   2006 May 16, 4:32am  

Has someone hijacked Randy H's & Peter P's identities, or are we finally seeing the ultimate sign the bubble has peaked: Bear capitulation.

186   HARM   2006 May 16, 4:34am  

New thread: "Why Not?"

187   Different Sean   2006 May 16, 8:46pm  

Yeah X
I was wondering if you were losing it.

Christ, I thought it was real -- and not too bad either, heh.

I like the 63 Mustang on the gen-u-wine site tho -- reminds me of the car they used in the video clip of Australian Crawl's 'Reckless' -- but you can't find it on the net, which is a shame, it's about the same vintage as Duran Duran or similar...

188   SJ_jim   2006 May 17, 4:15pm  

John A, as a physicist, can't you appreciate the potential for geometric effect with feedback situation of slow RE sales causing RE lost jobs causing slow RE sales causing...etc, etc, etc?
Well, I'm sure you appreciate all the possibilities!
What will happen? Who cantell?!?!
It will be interesting to see!

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