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Bay Area housing crash continues


               
2006 Jan 2, 6:15am   26,791 views  215 comments

by Peter P   follow (2)  

Let's try again.

#housing

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1   Peter P   2006 Jan 2, 6:38am  

This year will be interest times for recent homedebtors.

Psychology is changing fast. The exit is tiny.

2006 - Sheeple Stampede.

2   Peter P   2006 Jan 2, 6:43am  

Paul McCulley from PIMCO:

A key characteristic of the property market is that it’s very momentum-driven. This is sometimes called a "reflexive" market, meaning that people are more excited when prices go up even though there is less value, and less excited when prices go down even though there is more value.

Because of reflexivity, once momentum turns and home price appreciation slows, we should see a rather dramatic slowdown in volumes. Home prices don’t have to actually fall for you to have a sharp slowing in the volume of transactions. That is a key analytical aspect of our forecast that a slowdown in home price appreciation will have a bigger impact on the household’s ability to withdraw equity than the consensus probably thinks.

3   Peter P   2006 Jan 2, 6:44am  

Reflexivity! I have been talking about this for ages.

4   surfer-x   2006 Jan 2, 6:49am  

that a slowdown in home price appreciation will have a bigger impact on the household’s ability to withdraw equity

Now this is why I love the English language, so what you are saying is that the McDebtor won't be able to extract more money from their $hitbox because there is none? Nice. Is he angling for the Fed job when HeliBen crashes and burns?

It's not that housing is crashing, it's that the market is "moderating". Not crashing but equity building is slowing.

5   Peter P   2006 Jan 2, 6:54am  

Surfer-X, reflexivity will further infer that a "moderating" market will have impact on liquidity and will then feed back into the market. Soon enough, prices will have to correct. Later, lenders will be unwilling to expose themselves to falling value. As a result, prices collapse. Finally, regulators will be pointing fingers at each other regarding loose credit standards. Rules will be implemented. Prices will not be revived for quite a while.

Only then we have the "landing".

Those who are saying that we have already soft-landed are likely to walk off from a still-flying plane.

6   San Francisco RENTER   2006 Jan 2, 8:02am  

"This year will be interest times for recent homedebtors." -PeterP

Yeah, what sucks is the recent buyers are the ones who are going to get killed--probably mostly first-timers who stretched to get in. I feel pretty bad about this, because most of these people didn't know better and felt like they had to get on the housing train before it left the station. Yes they SHOULD have known better, but too bad too bad. I have three friends who streched into Bay Area condos over the past 8 months, 2 of the 3 are basically realizing right now that they are screwed. Try as I might, I coudn't convicnce them not to buy--after all, I'm just a finance professional with a vested interest in not wanting to see my friends get screwed, what the Hell do I know? Too bad, too bad.

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