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2025 Aug 6, 5:14pm   9,153 views  545 comments

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538   MolotovCocktail   2025 Dec 22, 10:07am  

AmenCorner_AntiPanican says

LOL


Help! I'm stranded in the country of my citizenship!


That picture doesn't resemble India to me.
540   floki   2025 Dec 23, 3:16pm  

That is exactly the mindsets of most of the indian collegues I have worked with, to have that "optionality" for the adults while their young kids are sent back to be acculturated then come back later and reap the benefits here while growing up. To them, America is just an economic bitch they can ass fuck without the courtesy to say thank you. You see that attitude in Vijay's tone in saying "hostile neighbors and political rhetoric" above.

I was once getting annoyed hearing a few indian collegues at a group gathering spouting non stop about how they and their kids need to maintain connection to the "mother land, culture, trying to get dual passports" etc... and asked 'where your loyalty lies' and they looked at me dumbfounded and treacherous because I myself am an asian. You can imagine the looks and stares in the office from then on, forget about all the shit they may say behind my back.

Their hindu/muslim issue there is akin to our black/white political issue here and Modi is the guy these people overwhelmingly support for his hard stand for the hindus and yet, the same courtesy isn't afforded to some of us who want to maintain our US founding traditions and norms here (I'll digress and keep my arguments with them about 2A issue for another time). I believe majority of them vote dems. That is another argument I sometimes have with them to no avil.
541   MolotovCocktail   2025 Dec 23, 6:17pm  


Unpublished but finalized: DHS has quietly rewritten the H-1B lottery.

Before this rule even hits the Federal Register, here’s what actually changes … in plain English … based directly on the final rule text (2025-23853).

1. The H-1B lottery is no longer purely random

USCIS is replacing the random lottery with a wage-weighted selection system.

Registrations are still beneficiary-based, but higher wages now get better odds.

2. Wage level determines lottery odds

Each H-1B registration is entered into the selection pool based on the offered wage:
•Wage Level IV → entered 4 times
•Wage Level III → 3 times
•Wage Level II → 2 times
•Wage Level I → 1 time

Every worker is still counted once toward the cap, but higher wages dramatically increase selection probability.

3. Employers must disclose wage details up front

During registration, employers must now submit:
•The OEWS wage level
•The SOC code
•The area of intended employment

These same details must later match the filed petition exactly.

4. USCIS can deny or revoke petitions for manipulation

USCIS explicitly adds authority to:
•Deny amended or new petitions
•Revoke approvals

If the agency believes changes were made to game the lottery (job title, location, wage level, or entity swapping).

5. Entry-level and lower-wage H-1Bs are heavily disadvantaged

DHS estimates a sharp drop in Wage Level I selections.

The rule openly acknowledges that past abuse centered on:
•Lower-paid roles
•IT staffing and outsourcing firms
•Wage suppression of U.S. workers

This rule is designed to reverse that trend.

6. The cap size does not change
•65,000 regular cap
•20,000 advanced degree cap

What changes is who wins, not how many.

7. Effective timeline
•Final rule
•Effective for FY 2027 registration season
•Applies to all cap-subject registrations after the effective date

Bottom line

This rule:
•Explicitly admits the H-1B program has been abused
•Prioritizes higher wages over volume hiring
•Makes entry-level and low-wage H-1Bs far harder to secure
•Gives USCIS stronger enforcement tools

It does not end H-1Bs, but it fundamentally reshapes who benefits from them.

Curious what people think ….does this go far enough?


https://x.com/SanDiegoKnight/status/2003500159288983785
543   FortWayneHatesRealtors   2025 Dec 23, 9:02pm  

MolotovCocktail says




Unpublished but finalized: DHS has quietly rewritten the H-1B lottery.

Before this rule even hits the Federal Register, here’s what actually changes … in plain English … based directly on the final rule text (2025-23853).

1. The H-1B lottery is no longer purely random

USCIS is replacing the random lottery with a wage-weighted selection system.

Registrations are still beneficiary-based, but higher wages now get better odds.

2. Wage level determines lottery odds

Each H-1B registration is entered into the selection pool based on the offered wage:
•Wage Level IV → entered 4 times
•Wage Level III → 3 times
•Wage Level II → 2 times
•Wage Level I → 1 time

Every worker is still counted once toward the cap, but higher wages dramatically increase selection probability.

3. Employers must disclose wage details up front

During registration, employers must now submit:
•The OEWS wage level
•The SOC code
•The area of intended employment

These same details must later match the filed petition exactly.

4. USCIS can deny or revoke petitions for manipulation

USCIS explicitly adds authority to:
•Deny amended or new petitions
•Revoke approvals

If the agency believes changes were made to game the lottery (job title, location, wage level, or entity swapping).

5. Entry-level and lower-wage H-1Bs are heavily disadvantaged

DHS estimates a sharp drop in Wage Level I selections.

The rule openly acknowledges that past abuse centered on:
•Lower-paid roles
•IT staffing and outsourcing firms
•Wage suppression of U.S. workers

This rule is designed to reverse that trend.

6. The cap size does not change
•65,000 regular cap
•20,000 advanced degree cap

What changes is who wins, not how many.

7. Effective timeline
•Final rule
•Effective for FY 2027 registration season
•Applies to all cap-subject registrations after the effective date

Bottom line

This rule:
•Explicitly admits the H-1B program has been abused
•Prioritizes higher wages over volume hiring
•Makes entry-level and low-wage H-1Bs far harder to secure
•Gives USCIS stronger enforcement tools

It does not end H-1Bs, but it fundamentally reshapes who benefits from them.

Curious what people think ….does this go far enough?


https://x.com/SanDiegoKnight/status/2003500159288983785



Chamber of Commerce. Those are some of the worst people in America, can't find bigger group of jackasses if you looked for one. The Chamber will lecture all of us endlessly about “free markets,” but they panic at the idea of a tight labor market. When workers gain leverage, suddenly it’s a crisis to those jackasses. Suddenly we’re told the country must import more labor by any means necessary, because wages rising is apparently a threat to civilization. Mah markets, mah business needs. It’s about keeping labor disposable and wages low.
544   MolotovCocktail   2025 Dec 23, 9:21pm  

FortWayneHatesRealtors says

Chamber of Commerce. Those are some of the worst people in America, can't find bigger group of jackasses if you looked for one. The Chamber will lecture all of us endlessly about “free markets,” but they panic at the idea of a tight labor market. When workers gain leverage, suddenly it’s a crisis to those jackasses. Suddenly we’re told the country must import more labor by any means necessary, because wages rising is apparently a threat to civilization. Mah markets, mah business needs. It’s about keeping labor disposable and wages low.


It's an age old story:



And before that, the Roman yeomanry were destroyed by the mass importation of slaves.
545   Patrick   2025 Dec 27, 10:46am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/pardon-me-saturday-december-27-2025


Just before Christmas, the Hill ran another terrific story headlined, “Judge rejects challenge to Trump’s $100K H-1B visa fee.” The Chamber of Commerce plus 18 Democrat states sued to block President Trump’s most significant policy intended to stop H1B abuse. Federal judge Beryl Howell —an Obama appointee— just denied their lawsuit.

One of the biggest lies this Fall was that Republicans and President Trump were promoting Chinese students and pushing H1B visas. How some conservatives fell for this falsehood is beyond me. But they did, and it led to countless euphoric articles in corporate media about the “fracturing” of MAGA.

But H1Bs were actually being supported by Democrats. The so-called “workers’ party.” The party of the labor unions. But for some reason, Democrats are supporting big corporations that want access to cheap H1B foreign workers. This lawsuit proved it. The truth is that President Trump has done more to reform H1B visa abuse than any president in our lifetimes, and the Democrats (plus the Chamber of Commerce, but I repeat myself) opposed him at every step.

The Hill clung to hope, mentioning that Democrats can still appeal Judge Howell’s decision. But the fact that an Obama Appointee dismissed their arguments is what lawyers call

“a bad sign” for the appeal.

The article mentioned that on top of the $100K “fee” for most new H1B visa applications, even more reforms are about to kick in. For example, the Administration is ending the “lottery system” that prioritized applications in random order. Next month, DHS will replace the random lottery with a weighted selection process that prioritizes applications for positions actually requiring specialized skills and which pay above-market wages.

Immigration Services spokesman Matthew Tragesser explained, “The existing random selection process of H-1B registrations was exploited and abused by U.S. employers who were primarily seeking to import foreign workers at lower wages than they would pay American workers.”

If your concerns include H1B reform, nobody has done more without Congress than President Trump. You’re welcome.

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