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AD
2026 Jan 10, 11:23pm
AD
2026 Jan 10, 11:23pm
This is a 3 bedroom townhome unit in Panama City Beach that is at 2021 rent level
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1604-Annabellas-Way-Panama-City-Beach-FL-32407/87634367_zpid/
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1604-Annabellas-Way-Panama-City-Beach-FL-32407/87634367_zpid/
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MolotovCocktail
2026 Jan 23, 3:19am
MolotovCocktail
2026 Jan 23, 3:19am
TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter says
Demographics is destiny.
House prices are going to fall over the next two decades and nothing can stop it.
The average buyer right now is 60 years old. Boomers buying from Boomers.
The whole housing market is frozen because sellers are holding out for $405k and most buyers are refusing to pay it, happy to enjoy declining rents and wait it out. The only buyers who are willing are maybe 5%, 10% tops of households.
Smaller households means no rush to find bedrooms for John and Jane and Joe (or today, Braden or Payton, and no other kid).
The same reason investors won't buy the $405k SFHs either (rents trending down, carrying costs and borrowing costs up)
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FortWayneHatesRealtors
2026 Jan 23, 5:43am
They won't let it go down. The moment free market lets prices slip to what families could afford, government steps in to increase prices through use of Fannie, Freddie, and various federal reserve tricks. It's pretty clear that government is set on keeping it this way.
MolotovCocktail says
Didn't you see it? This government doesn't care about Braden, Payton and Jane, they'll import Jose and Maria to replace you. This government is ran for the rich, by the rich, at expense to everyone else. They don't care about you, George Carlin was very right about everything when it comes to these politicians.
It's not free market, it's a managed economy. And they are managing it this way.
MolotovCocktail says
Smaller households means no rush to find bedrooms for John and Jane and Joe (or today, Braden or Payton, and no other kid).
Didn't you see it? This government doesn't care about Braden, Payton and Jane, they'll import Jose and Maria to replace you. This government is ran for the rich, by the rich, at expense to everyone else. They don't care about you, George Carlin was very right about everything when it comes to these politicians.
It's not free market, it's a managed economy. And they are managing it this way.
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Patrick
2026 Jan 23, 9:13pm
Patrick
2026 Jan 23, 9:13pm
FortWayneHatesRealtors says
Yes, if prices were to go down, it would piss off the banks and the boomers, and those groups have a lot of political power.
It's pretty clear that government is set on keeping it this way.
Yes, if prices were to go down, it would piss off the banks and the boomers, and those groups have a lot of political power.
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AD
2026 Jan 23, 10:40pm
AD
2026 Jan 23, 10:40pm
MolotovCocktail says
Does the demographics at least provide qualified buyers or is population growth driven by 3rd world poor and barely educated immigrants ? Like does Canada have that many rich immigrants buying up median priced homes as their housing market is a lot overheated.
The median house should be priced no more than 4 times median household income for a 30 yr mortgage rate of 5%.
The whole housing market is frozen because sellers are holding out for $405k and most buyers are refusing to pay it, happy to enjoy declining rents and wait it out. The only buyers who are willing are maybe 5%, 10% tops of households.
Does the demographics at least provide qualified buyers or is population growth driven by 3rd world poor and barely educated immigrants ? Like does Canada have that many rich immigrants buying up median priced homes as their housing market is a lot overheated.
The median house should be priced no more than 4 times median household income for a 30 yr mortgage rate of 5%.
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Booger
2026 Jan 24, 12:36am
Booger
2026 Jan 24, 12:36am
AD says
When you are putting 10-12 adults to a house, they don't have to be rich.
does Canada have that many rich immigrants buying up median priced homes as their housing market is a lot overheated.
When you are putting 10-12 adults to a house, they don't have to be rich.
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HeadSet
2026 Jan 24, 8:27am
HeadSet
2026 Jan 24, 8:27am
Booger says
That is what happened in Manassa and Price Wiliam County in VA. A judge through out local ordinances that prevented over a certain number of unrelated folks living in a single-family abode.
When you are putting 10-12 adults to a house, they don't have to be rich.
That is what happened in Manassa and Price Wiliam County in VA. A judge through out local ordinances that prevented over a certain number of unrelated folks living in a single-family abode.
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So the only way to decrease real prices is to decrease demand, and the only way to do that is to kick out all illegal immigrants and anchor babies. Will Trump do this? Almost certainly not. Even with control over all three branches of the government, the Republicans are not going to get rid of all the illegals who are driving up housing prices and social welfare costs. I wish that I was wrong about this, but I'm not.
The United States population reached 200 million on November 20, 1967. If there was no net migration, then the U.S. population have stabilized to about 220 million. Instead, the population is 335 million. This is why housing is so expensive. This is why rent is so damn high. This is why the younger generations cannot afford to have children. This is why the only way to keep the population from falling is to import massive numbers of unskilled, uneducated, and often criminal immigrants. Both parties are responsible for this: democrats for importing voters and republicans for importing farm laborers. Both parties want cheap labor.
When you import massive numbers of low-iq, low-skill workers, your per capital GDP declines relative to where it would have been otherwise. Yes, technological advancements mask this because technology increases GDP faster than low-skill immigration decreases it, but most of those gains don't get seen by the middle class.
Since both parties, and their corporate overlords, are benefiting from the current system, immigration will continue and housing prices will also continue to rise. I suppose I shouldn't care since I own and have a 2.25% mortgage that is being eaten away by inflation, but anyone young enough that they having bought already is fucked.